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 4k tv under RM3k, Sony or Samsung or LG??

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jep
post Jan 7 2019, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Jan 6 2019, 05:43 PM)
As I know
55 inch
X70 is VA
X75 is IPS

Go to shop double check
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Dear Mr Jep ,

Thank you for your email to Sony Malaysia.

In regards to your email , I understand that you would like to know the panel type for KD-55X7000F.

Based on the specification for this TV , it is using a VA type panel for this specific model.

Please do not hesitate to contact us at 1300-88-1233 from (Monday to Friday 9am to 6pm) or email at cic.somas@ap.sony.com for further assistance.

Yours Sincerely,

Yugenraj Sandasegaran
Sony Malaysia Customer Interaction Centre
Sony Support Community: http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/community/
Sony Facebook: www.facebook.com/SonyMalaysia

So confirmed 55X7000F is VA Panel
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post Jan 7 2019, 05:42 PM

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For details about panel technology you may refer below.
Although it is quite old article but still meaningful.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies.htm
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post Jan 7 2019, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jep @ Jan 7 2019, 05:26 PM)
Dear Mr Jep ,

Thank you for your email to Sony Malaysia.

In regards to your email , I understand that you would like to know the panel type for KD-55X7000F.

Based on the specification for this TV , it is using a VA type panel for this specific model.

Please do not hesitate to contact us at 1300-88-1233 from (Monday to Friday 9am to 6pm) or email at cic.somas@ap.sony.com for further assistance.

Yours Sincerely,

Yugenraj Sandasegaran
Sony Malaysia Customer Interaction Centre
Sony Support Community: http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/community/
Sony Facebook: www.facebook.com/SonyMalaysia

So confirmed 55X7000F is VA Panel
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Actually you dont have to ask, sometimes they dont know.
you can see colour fade or not from side & touch the screen at the shop.
good that you get confirmation from Sony

you try ask 55 inch x75f is IPS or not.

This post has been edited by szecheng: Jan 7 2019, 05:56 PM
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post Jan 7 2019, 06:49 PM

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https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hisense-...2Vn8hP&search=1

only RM2385!!! good deal for 55" 120Hz 4K VA panel.

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post Jan 7 2019, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 5 2019, 06:31 PM)
surely impt for others to be able to use the TV easily.

but since u mentioned a 64gb hdr remux file, i wud think the time will come u get yr hands on an even bigger bdmv file and good player to deliver the best to the tv and a home theater! biggrin.gif
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those remux file i download for fun only...normally download 1080p with dts enough for me already.

QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 5 2019, 07:33 PM)
Hi, you mentioned back-lit bleeding issue.. If the screen shows a horizontal line starting from top to bottom in the 2/3 corner of the screen, is this considered back-lit bleed issue?
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sounds like tv rosak ni...

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post Jan 8 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jan 5 2019, 01:38 AM)
For many 4k TVs with mediocre brightness rating , they don't nearly have the specs to showcase the dynamic range of HDR content in its full glory .
Therefore when it comes to HDR content mastered at very high nits ( brightness ) ,  they have to choose to either retain the highlight details or blown out the details to sustain the brightness .  This process is called tone mapping .

At this time , there are no standard which define which tone mapping method is right .  For the TV makers , Sony's TV tend to go for the brightness while LG is leaning towards keeping the details .
Samsung's TV by nature , will always choose to retain details at the cost of losing brightness of the overall APL .
LG's TV used to be similar but back in 2017 , LG has introduced a different approach to HDR 10 called Dynamic tone mapping ( Active HDR ) which purpose is to adjust the HDR meta data frame by frame .
This can partially restore brightness to the HDR picture , while keeping details intact .  Samsung TV on the other hand , doesn't do any dynamic tone mapping .

This might explain why GTS looks brighter on the LG TVs when the specs of both TV are more or less on the same level .
P/S : Samsung's entry level 4K TVs (namely NU7400 , NU7100 , NU7300 , MU6100 , MU6300 etc etc ) have a feature called" UHD Dimming " , which is an algorithm based dimming function that tries to darken the overall picture to improve the contrast . Sadly this come with the cost of dimming down the small and bright highlights.  You will want to use every trick from the book to notice a difference from SDR on these TVs , I recommend setting "Contrast Enhancer " to high .
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Ah that makes sense. Turning on Contrast Enhancer on the Samsung TV does make it slightly better.

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post Jan 8 2019, 01:50 PM

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I have this 4k android sony tv dated 2016, i think its 7000 series as my pc gaming screen. Bought it for 3k+ . Happy with it, it can support HDR too. 4k gaming with this tv always make me smile
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Jan 7 2019, 05:55 PM)
Actually you dont have to ask, sometimes they dont know.
you can see colour fade or not from side & touch the screen at the shop.
good that you get confirmation from Sony

you try ask 55 inch x75f is IPS or not.
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Confirmed IPS by the Sony CS
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post Jan 8 2019, 02:59 PM

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TV market share by brands...refer attachment


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post Jan 9 2019, 11:46 AM

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guys,

is there any bad effects to TV if is stick the bias light / LED strip light behind the TV ?

thanks
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post Jan 9 2019, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(suffeylp @ Jan 9 2019, 11:46 AM)
guys,

is there any bad effects to TV if is stick the bias light / LED strip light behind the TV ?

thanks
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Make sure you dont cover the tv cover holes, worry thermal issue for the TV in long run.
Also it is best not to use TV USB port to power the LED strip.
LED strip will draw quite high current constantly, so worry your USB 5V power management IC become too hot and die soon.
So better use external USB adaptor.

This post has been edited by ruzaini88: Jan 9 2019, 02:05 PM
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post Jan 9 2019, 05:25 PM

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Sony 55X7000F vs Hisense U7A...hmmm..anybody using U7A can chime in?
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post Jan 9 2019, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Jan 8 2019, 02:59 PM)
TV market share by brands...refer attachment
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Only if we are talking about the regular TVs.

In the premium market , LG's signature OLEDs have overtook Samsung's QLEDs as the leading position . Even Sony's premium models have sold more than the so called QLEDs thesedays .

By nature ,the QLED isn't enough of dramatic improvement over the normal LCD compare to the OLEDS.
Which is why Samsung is getting kind of jumpy about their premium models thesedays , because that's the section where they make the biggest profit .


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post Jan 9 2019, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jan 9 2019, 05:51 PM)
Only if we are talking about the regular TVs.

In the premium market , LG's signature OLEDs have overtook Samsung's QLEDs as the leading position . Even Sony's premium models have sold more than the so called QLEDs thesedays .

By nature ,the QLED isn't enough of dramatic improvement over the normal LCD compare to the OLEDS.
Which is why Samsung is getting kind of jumpy about their premium models thesedays , because that's the section where they make the biggest profit .
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Wow...good to see this!

Samsung's MicroLED panel will give them a boost in future.
Let's see how this new tech consumer TV works.
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post Jan 9 2019, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(jep @ Jan 9 2019, 05:25 PM)
Sony 55X7000F vs Hisense U7A...hmmm..anybody using U7A can chime in?
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Hisense 55U7A advantage over Sony 55X7000F:
- Panel native refresh rate 120Hz and support Wide colour gamut.
- Premium build quality (cosmetic)
- Better built in speakers.
- Has better local dimming
- Better contrast (VA panel vs IPS in sony)

Sony 55X7000F advantage over U7A:
- wide viewing angle. (nature of IPS panel)
- better after sales service probably
- Brand image, people will say "waaa sony ka, orang kaya laa"


Note: There is one trusted seller in lazada selling 55u7A for RM2400. Good deal!
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post Jan 9 2019, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Jan 9 2019, 05:55 PM)
Wow...good to see this!

Samsung's MicroLED panel will give them a boost in future.
Let's see how this new tech consumer TV works.
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LG and Sony both have their own Micro-LED panels showcased a while ago . I am pretty sure TCL and Hisense have cooked up something similar .
So the technology isn't exactly exclusive to Samsung .
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post Jan 9 2019, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(sidq @ Jan 7 2019, 04:24 PM)
Does anyone know if Sony will bring Netflix Calibrated Mode to mid-range line-up in 2019?
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No , only in the premium section such as the master series (AF9 , ZF9 , AG9 ) , AG8 and the upcoming XG95 & XG90 (?)


But it is nothing more than a marketing gimmick by their PR campaigns .
The Netflix calibrated mode simply re-uses the most accurate settings out of the box from TV ( which is the Custom / Cinema Pro mode ) , except it is built into the app and you cannot run any test patterns in it.

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post Jan 9 2019, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Jan 9 2019, 06:08 PM)
Hisense 55U7A advantage over Sony 55X7000F:
- Panel native refresh rate 120Hz and support Wide colour gamut.
- Premium build quality (cosmetic)
- Better built in speakers.
- Has better local dimming
- Better contrast (VA panel vs IPS in sony)

Sony 55X7000F advantage over U7A:
- wide viewing angle. (nature of IPS panel)
- better after sales service probably
- Brand image, people will say "waaa sony ka, orang kaya laa"
Note: There is one trusted seller in lazada selling 55u7A for RM2400. Good deal!
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Sony 55X7000F I've verified with Sony via email and they confirm that it's VA...only 55X7500F is IPS

and Yes, I saw that deal and looks tempting enough
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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Jan 9 2019, 06:08 PM)
Hisense 55U7A advantage over Sony 55X7000F:
- Panel native refresh rate 120Hz and support Wide colour gamut.
- Premium build quality (cosmetic)
- Better built in speakers.
- Has better local dimming
- Better contrast (VA panel vs IPS in sony)

Sony 55X7000F advantage over U7A:
- wide viewing angle. (nature of IPS panel)
- better after sales service probably
- Brand image, people will say "waaa sony ka, orang kaya laa"
Note: There is one trusted seller in lazada selling 55u7A for RM2400. Good deal!
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Rock bottom prices dy rclxms.gif
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post Jan 9 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Jan 9 2019, 06:08 PM)
Hisense 55U7A advantage over Sony 55X7000F:
- Panel native refresh rate 120Hz and support Wide colour gamut.
- Premium build quality (cosmetic)
- Better built in speakers.
- Has better local dimming
- Better contrast (VA panel vs IPS in sony)

Sony 55X7000F advantage over U7A:
- wide viewing angle. (nature of IPS panel)
- better after sales service probably
- Brand image, people will say "waaa sony ka, orang kaya laa"
Note: There is one trusted seller in lazada selling 55u7A for RM2400. Good deal!
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Just sharing: https://www.cnet.com/news/beware-fake-120hz...ates-on-4k-tvs/

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