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 4k tv under RM3k, Sony or Samsung or LG??

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shahizz
post Dec 20 2018, 02:17 PM

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Where can i buy tcl r617. Too many good reviews on this tv
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QUOTE(shahizz @ Dec 20 2018, 02:17 PM)
Where can i buy tcl r617. Too many good reviews on this tv
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I usually recommend Amazon or Best Buy although I've been annoyed when the Amazon delivery doesn't carry the large packages up to the 4th floor apartment. Unfortunately neither ships to Malaysia, the TV is only available in north America.

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post Dec 20 2018, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Dec 20 2018, 01:46 PM)
How good is SHARP LC-60UA6800X in terms of motion?
I am a football fanatics so very curious this TV able to give good motion or not.

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It's a colorful TV but you probably should get a Sony x8500f if you are sensitive to motion element particularly like ghost trails and such .

This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 20 2018, 05:37 PM
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post Dec 20 2018, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(shahizz @ Dec 20 2018, 02:17 PM)
Where can i buy tcl r617. Too many good reviews on this tv
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You can't , TCL doesn' t sell the same TV outside of USA ( for obvious reason )


They aren't perfect either , these TCL TVs tend to have terrible uniformity issues ( a sign of Poor Quality Control ) and show minor artifacts if you look at the screen closely.
It just isn't worth the price and risk of importing it . TVs are sensitive equipment , you don't want to open the box and find a cracked screen.


If you MUST import a TV , get X9000F from China , which is far superior than anything found in this price range. 55 inches can be bought for about RM3-4K and is one of the better LED LCD TV around.
Again , not recommended to do so . Out of 5 TVs I have imported , 3 of them have cracked screens mad.gif

This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 20 2018, 06:05 PM
ruzaini88
post Dec 20 2018, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Dec 20 2018, 05:30 PM)
It's a colorful TV but you probably should get a Sony x8500f if you are sensitive to motion element particularly like ghost trails and such .
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So I will avoid this TV.
My next target is Hisense U7A. Motion is not bad it seems since it is 120Hz native panel.
The cheapest TV with 120Hz panel it seems.


If this one also does not satisfy me, I will go for more high budget X8500F.


Thanks for kind advice bro. smile.gif

This post has been edited by ruzaini88: Dec 20 2018, 05:52 PM
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post Dec 20 2018, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Dec 20 2018, 05:48 PM)
So I will avoid this TV.
My next target is Hisense U7A. Motion is not bad it seems since it is 120Hz native panel.
The cheapest TV with 120Hz panel it seems.
If this one also does not satisfy me, I will go for more high budget X8500F.
Thanks for kind advice bro. smile.gif
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u shud not avoid sharp ua6800x just becos someone said so.

go ask the dozens of actual users here, find the truth:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+1400

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post Dec 20 2018, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 20 2018, 06:57 PM)
u shud not avoid sharp ua6800x just becos someone said so.

go ask the dozens of actual users here, find the truth:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+1400
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A dozen of users who know close to nothing about TV technology ?
But constantly complaining about new tech and bitter about users buy more expensive and premium TVs ?


It is well known these Sharp TVs has less than satisfactory motion performance. Do yourself a favor , at least read some reviews from the Chinese audience .
And well done brand ambassador. In fact I have a lot more to say about Sharp TVs , if only you guys are a little more humble about it . I have not even begin talking about the subpixels problem.


If you want to promote your TV , feel free to do it in your own thread . You can spread wrong info and all sort of other things , not that you haven't already , which I have received pm from people asking from time to times. But this is a thread for people who want to get an honest opinion on TV , you want to preach about your brand along it is fine . You have your own thread to do so .

Just don't do it in our thread, tyvm.


FYI , I am not saying the TV motion sucks out of nowhere , I have actually tested a 6800x several months ago , but have you actually tested yours ?
Then let me ask you this , how (what) is the input latency of your current Sharp TV ?

This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 20 2018, 07:23 PM
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post Dec 20 2018, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Dec 20 2018, 07:14 PM)
A dozen of users who know close to nothing about TV technology ?
But constantly complaining about new tech and bitter about users buy more expensive and premium TVs ?
It is well known these Sharp TVs has less than satisfactory motion performance. Do yourself a favor , at least read some reviews from the Chinese audience .
And well done brand ambassador. In fact I have a lot more to say about Sharp TVs , if only you guys are a little more humble about it . I have not even begin talking about the subpixels problem.
If you want to promote your TV , feel free to do it in your own thread . You can spread wrong info and all sort of other things , not that you haven't already , which I have received pm from asking from time to times.  But this is a thread for people who want to get an honest opinion on TV , you want to preach about your brand along it is fine . You have your own thread to do so .

Just don't do it in our thread, tyvm.
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we know u... u shud stop telling people what to buy or not what to buy.

u get paid or what?

i ask him to go visit and ask actual owners.

not u, some self declared hero who claims to know all.

pls la... if u r so good, u go sell yr services somewhere else.

after so many already told u, u still dun get it?!!
ruzaini88
post Dec 20 2018, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 20 2018, 06:57 PM)
u shud not avoid sharp ua6800x just becos someone said so.

go ask the dozens of actual users here, find the truth:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4488602/+1400
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So far dozens of reviews from online and offline is bad for UA6800 motion. Sharp is not focus on motion it seems hmmm...
No wonder why Sharp using slow pace video clips in shop front huhu.



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post Dec 20 2018, 07:26 PM

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wow interesting thread here. DIdn't know Toshiba got sold to HiSense? Seems like the last few comments said that this brand ought to be avoided at all cost?

Looking at a 49" to 50" TV - Looking at the Samsung NU7100 and NU7300, LG UK6300, Toshiba U7750VM and U6750.
Any recommendation or experienced users here?

Not sure how important is the built-in Android TV but i think it's good to have.

Also, are there even Sony models that is within the 2k range with similar features on those quoted above?

would appreciate some feedback. Thanks

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post Dec 20 2018, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Dec 20 2018, 07:24 PM)
So far dozens of reviews from online and offline is bad for UA6800 motion. Sharp is not focus on motion it seems hmmm...
No wonder why Sharp using slow pace video clips in shop front huhu.
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if u r convinced, that's fine - yr money, yr decision.

i do not find such issues, be it soccer or 2160p fast n furious.

just giving u something to think about.
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post Dec 20 2018, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(she3p @ Dec 20 2018, 07:26 PM)
wow interesting thread here. DIdn't know Toshiba got sold to HiSense? Seems like the last few comments said that this brand ought to be avoided at all cost?

Looking at a 49" to 50" TV - Looking at the Samsung NU7100 and NU7300, LG UK6300, Toshiba U7750VM and U6750.
Any recommendation or experienced users here?

Not sure how important is the built-in Android TV but i think it's good to have.

Also, are there even Sony models that is within the 2k range with similar features on those quoted above?

would appreciate some feedback. Thanks
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For picture quality you can judge by urself at shop. Samsung 7100 and 7300 is VA panel, the rest is IPS.
Toshiba android TV already obsolete, I mean very old ready, if not wrong still in 6.0 android tv OS.
The good thing in android TV is it has built in chromecast. You can easily cast facebook, netflix, youtube videos to TV.

Other smart TV only can cast Youtube video normally.
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post Dec 20 2018, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 20 2018, 07:27 PM)
if u r convinced, that's fine - yr money, yr decision.

i do not find such issues, be it soccer or 2160p fast n furious.

just giving u something to think about.
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hmm, hope I can get opportunity to test myself UA6800 with fast motion video.
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post Dec 20 2018, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 20 2018, 07:20 PM)
we know u... u shud stop telling people what to buy or not what to buy.

u get paid or what?

i ask him to go visit and ask actual owners.

not u, some self declared hero who claims to know all.

pls la... if u r so good, u go sell yr services somewhere else.

after so many already told u, u still dun get it?!!
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I am not telling them what to buy , I am offering them a recommendation. I don't benefit from them at all , in fact one of the brand PR (not Sharp) wasn't too happy about me bashing their TV openly .

I just don't understand why are you so bitter about the other brands you have to trash talk about them in your own thread .
Every time someone give a different opinion , you become desperate and criticize them cynically . How many times have you called these " TV GURUS " out in your thread ? So much that someone else has to message me about it.

Can't you just accept the fact there is no perfect TV and there are different needs for everyone ?

I have recently started to work for several projects for TV brands in China but I have never claim that I am "good", nobody is ever good enough in the industry that claims to have a breakthrough in every fortnite.


Back to the topic , the guy asked for a TV for sports . The Sharp model 6800x just happen to have a fairly limited 60 hz refresh rate & doesn't support any motion interpolation features . The x8500f is much better in regard , what's wrong with that ? Shouldn't take a genius to figure all these out to begin with .


I have had enough dramas with the brand cultist these days , this will be my last reply on the issue . I am sorry if others have to witness the drama , my intention has always been to focus on TV displays , and just them alone .

This post has been edited by Convael: Dec 20 2018, 07:53 PM
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post Dec 20 2018, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Dec 20 2018, 07:46 PM)
I am not telling them what to buy , I am offering them a recommendation. I don't benefit from them at all , in fact one of the brand PR (not Sharp) wasn't too happy about me bashing their TV openly .

I just don't understand why are you so bitter about the other brands you have to trash talk about them in your own thread .
Every time someone give a different opinion , you become desperate and criticize them cynically . How many times have you called these " TV GURUS " out in your thread ? So much that someone else has to message me about it.

Can't you just accept the fact there is no perfect TV and there are different needs for everyone ?

I have recently started to work for several projects for TV brands in China but I have never claim that I am "good", nobody is ever good enough in the industry that claims to have a breakthrough in every fortnite.
Back to the topic ,  the guy asked for a TV for sports . The Sharp model 6800x just happen to have a fairly limited 60 hz refresh rate & doesn't support any motion interpolation features . The x8500f is much better in regard , what's wrong with that ? Shouldn't take a genius to figure all these out to begin with .
I have had enough dramas with the brand cultist these days , this will be my last reply on the issue . I am sorry if others have to witness the drama , my intention has always been to focus on TV displays , and just them alone .
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i dun trash other brands of tv or anything else, unlike u.

i actually do not comment on brands or even models i NEVER used.

i only comment on things i have actually used.

u, on the other hand like to say this n that even if u seen or touch it it for just 1 min.

next time u wanna post something about a certain tv, please state how many hours, days, and weeks u have used it.
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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Dec 20 2018, 07:39 PM)
For picture quality you can judge by urself at shop. Samsung 7100 and 7300 is VA panel, the rest is IPS.
Toshiba android TV already obsolete, I mean very old ready, if not wrong still in 6.0 android tv OS.
The good thing in android TV is it has built in chromecast. You can easily cast facebook, netflix, youtube videos to TV.

Other smart TV only can cast Youtube video normally.
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oh right ok.
but what's really VA and IPS? I presume IPS is more superior?

I have another noob question, if the TV has chromecast, does it work if my device runs on Miracast?
If Toshiba is using old Android TV - then i'm not so eager.....after all, there seems to have been a lot of bad reviews about it crashing...
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QUOTE(she3p @ Dec 20 2018, 08:16 PM)
oh right ok.
but what's really VA and IPS? I presume IPS is more superior?

I have another noob question, if the TV has chromecast, does it work if my device runs on Miracast?
If Toshiba is using old Android TV - then i'm not so eager.....after all, there seems to have been a lot of bad reviews about it crashing...
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Miracast is different, it will cast your phone screen exactly to TV. "screen mirroring"
Chromecast works differently, the phone will act like a remote. TV will play video standalone, you only need use phone to cast which video/music you want.

Try google your self how chrome cast works.
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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Dec 20 2018, 08:31 PM)
Miracast is different, it will cast your phone screen exactly to TV. "screen mirroring"
Chromecast works differently, the phone will act like a remote. TV will play video standalone, you only need use phone to cast which video/music you want.

Try google your self how chrome cast works.
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thanks for the clarification. I think i know the difference between the 2 now...
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post Dec 21 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(she3p @ Dec 20 2018, 08:16 PM)
oh right ok.
but what's really VA and IPS? I presume IPS is more superior?

I have another noob question, if the TV has chromecast, does it work if my device runs on Miracast?
If Toshiba is using old Android TV - then i'm not so eager.....after all, there seems to have been a lot of bad reviews about it crashing...
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i prefer VA than IPS in dark room, more black
led lighting & processor also play a role.
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Dec 21 2018, 10:35 AM)
i prefer VA than IPS in dark room, more black
led lighting & processor also play a role.
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AH just read up something on VA and IPS...

I think VA is good enough for me....I don`t need a wide viewing angle...

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