https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...-mrt-3-project/

hu hu hu . Pre-election some development promote mrt3. Come discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFsExgPxIus

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This is sad news, I don’t know why mathahir always against rails project. Mrt will be Najib’s only good legacy.

This post has been edited by value_investor: May 30 2018, 01:58 PM

Nola,
Naji have UTC ma, Tower 106 ma Higher than KL Twin Tower ma, MRT1 and MRT2 ma...
Tower 118 coming ma( still in the air)

so sad ..., MRT is really good project . mathahir pls dont cancel ...

But the problem is MRT 1 ridership is so shit. Every month bleeding money kau kau now.

No point to construct MRT3. later need to bail out kau kau again.

I support MRT 3 scrap

This post has been edited by tikaram: May 30 2018, 02:14 PM

Good for properties along MRT2 route

RUMAWIP cancel too ???

Yes.

It is the same when LRT first completed it takes time to increase the ridership. These projects are built for future and stop our addiction to fossil fuel. They are noble projects for future generations.

yes

MRT 3 scrapped as too huge debts waste Rakyat Money.
ECRL still in the air
Tower 118 still in the air

some yes under 64 lands

which property projects are "casualties" from cancellation of MRT3?

To be frank I would prefer to put under KIV or renegotiate rather than cancel.

Yerp, renegotiate is the better decision

Bad news for seremban project purchaser

https://www.theicct.org/blogs/staff/planes-...counting-carbon

but improve bus is better than train and cost outlay is small too.

we have discussed this many time before


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should also cancel mrt 2 too pay 1 lum sum fine instead of pay full? turn the line to garden pot or big longkang to prevent flood issue? wahkakaka

BANDAR Sri Sendayan, price around 600k.

mrt 3 gone. looks like mont kiara metropolis screw up big big time liao?

named the projects affected by these HSR + MRT3 cancellation.

anyone?

If the country debt balloon to unsustainable levels the whole country will be in trouble also.

Rail transport is for future and will take time for ridership to mature.
Just look at lrt KJ line. You will wish gov build mrt 20years ago instead of LRT

Affected many new n on going residential project
I know the traffic is very fuxk jam now
If the mrt not completed then we All also affected
N waste petrol on traffic jam

Sure can, if you want Pakatan to loose badly in the next GE.

That one I'm sure they won't touch it, especially those that are dy under-con. Depriving the rakyat of affordable homes is dy bad enough, then you also have to factor in the lawsuits that will come from developers if the former go in that direction in the first place.

If mrt 1 still making loss, why still constructing mrt 3

this is one is under Naji legacy project ma..

MRT is white elephant now, with the connecting line gone?

Those that boost their marketing kawkaw with MRT3 better replan your marketing strategy haha

It is circular line to begin with

Stop overreacting
And nope it is not apple to apple comparison.

mrt 1 will only become magnet (macam dulu lrt take time to boost) but still this mrt 1 already ada connectivity to lrt, ktm lines and maybe mrt 2 line tak macam dulu lrt less connectivity. wahkakaka.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 30 2018, 03:40 PM

Your point is?

hmmm which are the ones got affected ???

i was though only the project not approved by DBKL will be hold till further notice, not cancel the project that is ongoing

I support MRT 3 scrap

properties near MRT 2 should be selling hot now

give crony to survive lor...

now u see one by one mega projects being scrapped... they using BN to "attack" by saying Malaysia would "lose" billions economy multiplying effects

U forgot to mention sosma, ros ma...

ya i left out
this

There is this mrt construction in front of my house. Now it is cancelled, I wonder if they are gonna clean the mess. Roads filled with holes everywhere. Hopefully they don't just leave it like that.

This should be MRT2

On overall, stand alone development projects may suffer as their USP are limited. However, township may still bloom albeit with minimal effects. Areas like Nilai, S2 and BSS will still be able to sustain without HSR as they have other elements to play along with. This is just my opinion, others may view it differently.

Hahahha. Funny to see those who bought properties with values priced in with MRT3, LRT3,HSR, Bandar Malaysia. Whole TRX plan forsee will be squeeze into tiny station only . Huhu

Hahahaha. Congrats!!

Errmm its hard to imagine there are donkeys like you who are still around laughing at other ppl's expenses. Those who invested into these properties didnt do anything wrong/sin. Or perhaps just because you wasnt in a position to seize the opportunity, you laugh at them now. One way or the other, these properties will still be able to work out a plan. Our property and financial sector is still doing okay.

Agreed. Those standalone MRT2 projects wont have big values now. Cos not convenient to go many places in KL. Will be somewhere like old lrt line.

I laugh because I feel the money shall spread equally to the poor as well. Btw, done your part here ??

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lol, KJ line is crowded only during early morning or evening, other hours usually very empty how to make profit?
Now MRT is even worse, i took it around 10am weekday, I was the only passanger in the whole cabin, quite scary.

This post has been edited by jimmybcmy: May 30 2018, 05:13 PM

Done sir. Hope you have played your part too. All the best bro.

Sure. Else I wont posted here. Make trap myself meh.
All the best too!

Country need our helps now. I am investor too, kena also!
Property booming and those mrt projects I notice benefit limited people only. Many people still live under poverty threshold.

This post has been edited by ryan@chua: May 30 2018, 05:31 PM

Ok, with Mahathir's austerity drive ... i think Malaysia will officially enter recession next quarter onwards? Dammit I've been waiting for a recession for > 10 years. It is like a good fasting after days of gluttony!

This post has been edited by value_investor: May 30 2018, 05:51 PM

Where is this place?
MRT3 has not even started.
MRT1 construction has completed.
Are you implying MRT2 construction being cancelled?

IIRC MRT3 was only supposed to go through mature development areas. It looks like property around the proposed MRT3 track will still be okay but buyers will need to sustain bleeding for a longer time. My humble opinion. I have changed my plans.

Trx is mrt1 interchange with mrt2 wor. No mrt3 interchange there. How to squeeze ler?

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 30 2018, 06:25 PM

Since mrt 3 and hsr gone liao. More and more developments will more focus on current mrt 1 and future mrt2 liao (waiting for mrt2 klcc east station Jalan). No other choices liao. Petronas twin tower also dr m’s pet.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 30 2018, 06:29 PM

I know the feelings...

once I took it... woah, first & last I take off peak hour..
now I only use weekends...

should be MRT 2 leh...

that project proceed as usual...

Mind to share from which stn to which?
Does it involve underground stns?

Govt this trick called negotiation process. When u tell your supplier u have no money, there will be a better deal approach you...

Lets see...

Rail projects, when managed properly, should always be the preference.

Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taipei - fantastic rail systems contributing to the livability of the city.

really?? last weekend took the mrt to KLCC..its around 8 plus in the morning..was thinking it shouldn't be that bad since ppl still zzzz...boy i was so wrong!!!! damned packed till have to wait for 2nd train to come...
or maybe there is event happening last sunday???

You really took MRT to KLCC?
Stop at which MRT stn of KLCC?

i took MRT to KLCC, from damansara to pasar seni change to putra line

in Malaysia.. unless the station at your doorstep.. No one would like to walk... trust me...

What is the difference between Malaysia, and those other Asian countries I mentioned then?

Only been to Singapore and Kyoto area. Their cities were built with pedestrian and train in mind.

Malaysia roads are never pedestrian friendly.

To add on, its too easy to own a car in Malaysia.

Snatch theft.

different mentality...

in Malaysia.. drive car. high class.. ego booster..
use public transport.. low class.. people around u look down.. challenge to ego

Mrt mana tew sampai klcc

Nak ikottttt

If that the case why built now? Since it take time for rudership better built it when ridership mature lo.

A stretch line like KJ will grows as it is commuting the commuters INTO THE CITY. Ridership will grow as the development around d city improving. Im not surprise if commuters as far as Klang Bukit tinggi might take lrt KJ line to go to KLCC.

While circular line will only help u to roam AROUND the city.

It is still needed but maybe not now due to financial burden.

You confuse between LRT and MRT is it? I think you mean LRT Putra Line. Yes, full and pack with people during peak hour.
But not the case for the current MRT Line 1.
MRT Line 1 does not go to KLCC and from your story I can say you got the wrong line.

Every world class city has good public transport infrastructure. Malaysia is moving to a wrong direction. IF it’s too costly to do it all at once least one major projects should happen.

Putar line is no longer MRT loh... It is KJ LRT jor...
So the accurate statement is MRT then exchange LRT to KLCC.

Now the question is that whether our friend taking the second round is referring to the LRT or MRT?
My experience of taking KJ LRT was either wait for a few rounds or ride on an "early train" depending stns....

The circle line is about connectivity. Out of 40 stations, there are supposely 13 stations have interchange with LRT, MRT, KTM etc. It is like a shortcut jumping from another one line/destination to another destination and tie up all loose end.

the direction of population growth usually will be concentrated along the line. Just like how highways help in boosting the township, the rails will have same impact.

However in case of MRT3 i believe it is a strong case for connectivity which current rail transport is lacking now.

Correct. Haiz...what a waste. MRT 3 is the last piece of the jigsaw puzzle, so to speak. It will increase connectivity exponentially which will have many spillover benefits. Increased mobility means more business for retails, motels, tourist spending, reduced congestion/improved productivity, improved image as 1st class city, increased property/land value, wealth effects, increased assessment, quit rent income etc. Many not so clear benefits that cannot be measured by ticket sales alone...

Soon no need so mafan liao new mrt2 line can reach klcc east station. just need to interchange at TRX. MRT 1 ----> MRT 2

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 31 2018, 12:58 AM

gorek gorek.. soon or later all developments will follow along mrt 1 & 2 line. macam chain reaction. manyak case studies.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: May 31 2018, 12:58 AM

101% agreed !!

Just cross over the road to mrt. I also lazy to walk.
As long as Car is affordable for most the Malaysian. No Way to walk to use MRT/LRT

Don't be too sad... I believe 3 years later MRT 3 project will revive. Then HSR comes later... This project is just cancelled and on hold not mean it's totally useless. Prioritizr the main issues first.

Lrt have been completed many years ago. Has population growth near lrt faster?

What is difference between mrt and lrt?

Which basically means why i said it's not critical for time being due to constraints.. Since the planning is there, im pretty sure d line will be more highly sort out later (if it will be revive)

Also kj line have been there like 20 years..sorry to tell u traffic in kelana jaya still maintain like that. Up to damansara...yap..damansara which also have mrt too.

It improves connectivity but certainly not a perfect method to cut down traffics

This post has been edited by syazwan: May 31 2018, 05:59 AM

trust me... WE need MRT 3

That is exactly why we should staggered the building of all these big ticket items. Yes, future generations need it. But we don't build everything at one go. MRT already under utilized from Target passengers, still want to build new ones? Apa logic is that.
That is just like investors keep buying property even though the place is a jungle coz 50yrs later when population increase, that area will develope. Don't make sense

It's more like MEH wanna hav ec at 1 go. Kantoi is the ultimate result.

Slow n steady win the race. Tortoise has done tis b4.

but that's what happening now...i mean no need to wait for 50 yrs for property price to go up..easily 10 yrs..you can see the differences in the property price..
agreed on the no need to build everything in 1 go..still have to be more careful in spending since the government reserve tank is decreasing..

MRT3 is supposed to be the Yamanote line in Tokyo, the final piece of the puzzle as mentioned by our friend. Without it the whole MRT project has no value, just like you reserve the best event as finale.

No issues scrapping the big ones like HSR, but scrapping MRT3 is a wrong move. We need this to push us towards developed city status. Dr M mentioned in the press conference we do not need HSR as we are considered near to Singapore, and to focus improving our local rail services, so why scrap MRT3?

Our prime minister is being over conservative? Or it's just for the sake of showing us he is doing his job?

This post has been edited by freedom8901: May 31 2018, 09:05 AM

Financial burden obviously.

U dunno mrt 1 now is being subsidized now? Yes after 2 years completed..your fee to commute mrt is being subsidize. If not the train cant move

Mrt 2 soon subsidize

Mrt 3??

another idiot.....our federal budget so dire until the extent that need to sell land to pay loan interest only!!!

how many more land are we afford to sell...now still want to pile up all the debt with all these mega infrastructure???

do you know MRT3 is turnkey project, this show gov has no money before PH take over....do you know how much allowance of gov servant they have cut, do you know how many agency staff they have fire..still live in dream world.

Khazana and Bank Negara need to fork out billion just to pay 1mdb loan interest..with all this pile up debt...do you know how many billion interest need to pay by Malaysia monthly.

This post has been edited by Nikmon: May 31 2018, 09:41 AM

It is not an easy topic to explain why it is under utilised now. For a start due to underinvestment in public transport, Malaysia is well known as car country. Hence cultural and priority wise, even fresh graduates will buy car first.

Next is once u own a car, you will utilize it as much possible even though your house is very near to mrt station.

It take few years before change of mentality etc. Also for ppl who yet to buy a car, they have choice and option.

Another biggest complain is connectivity. Just imagine now if if you want to from Kepong to OneU. Now you need to interchange in TRX which is long way but with circle line. You can interchange in sentul west (mrt2) and subsequently change at dsara (mrt1) before go to OneU. Save u hell a lot of time.

This post has been edited by gks: May 31 2018, 09:41 AM

are u seriously totally ignore the debt level of our country and the big hole from 1mdb and just choose what you wanna see....? mrt3, hsr and ercl will be beneficial for the long term... the returns will take long long time to come back... but far away water cant save the fire thats burning in front of your face bro (your country's crazy current debt)....

Giv has a harapan acc now. Those who whine should contribute more in order for malai to cont building.

To me I would prefer to get the stability now than later.

Wat one should worry bout is how much irb gonna adjust the tax rate in the near future if v fail to cover the hole created by the great be end.

How much has property price near mrt1 stations rise since mrt1 in operation from mrt1 factor alone?

Mrt3 may have extensive connectivity. The connectivity mean beneficial to whole kv, is unlikely to have any impact on property price.

I tend to think Mahathir has aversion and hostile towards metro rail projects & Singapore more than anything to do with the budget.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...near-singapore/

During his previous tenure, he didn't do anything to improve public transport, yet build mega skyscrapers and tons of highway!

Why don't he announce cancellation of ECRL / Pan-Borneo highway and Bandar Malaysia? I feel HSR & MRT3 are very good compared to the former!

Najib maybe corrupted but GST & MRT / HSR public transport are good initiatives as they can benefit propel the economy compared to 10% SST & mega skyscrapers and highways. Highways only encourage more people to drive and waste money!

This post has been edited by value_investor: May 31 2018, 10:36 AM

Highway is for excise duty ma when the car sales is gd. 🤣

Skyscraper I dunno la. It doesn't seem to generate income fr tourism.

Connectivity is important n good but just not when one is unable to fund it.

Same in prop. Abusing the bank loan ll onli end with hard life. Leverage is gd onli when there is sufficient back up.

No absolute rite or wrong. It's timing I guess.

MRT3 just a round circles for KV not justifiable.
perhaps there is alternative transportation mode in place with cost effective solution in near future.

haha, and dont forget we have grab car / some other e-hailing stop right in front of ur place and fetch u right in front of ur destination. and the price is affordable and there is always discount given. it's like hire a driver. why take public transport when grab car is so convenient and affordable and time saving.

This post has been edited by dragonnite999999: May 31 2018, 10:36 AM

Najib maybe corrupted but GST & MRT / HSR public transport are good initiatives as they can benefit propel the economy compared to 10% SST & mega skyscrapers and highways. Highways only encourage more people to drive and waste money!