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 MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.

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post May 30 2018, 02:35 PM

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Rail transport is for future and will take time for ridership to mature.
Just look at lrt KJ line. You will wish gov build mrt 20years ago instead of LRT
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post May 30 2018, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ May 30 2018, 03:17 PM)
It is circular line to begin with

Stop overreacting
And nope it is not apple to apple comparison.
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Your point is?
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post May 31 2018, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ May 30 2018, 11:15 PM)
A stretch line like KJ will grows as it is commuting the commuters INTO THE CITY. Ridership will grow as the development around d city improving. Im not surprise if commuters as far as Klang Bukit tinggi might take lrt KJ line to go to KLCC.

While circular line will only help u to roam AROUND the city.

It is still needed but maybe not now due to financial burden.
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The circle line is about connectivity. Out of 40 stations, there are supposely 13 stations have interchange with LRT, MRT, KTM etc. It is like a shortcut jumping from another one line/destination to another destination and tie up all loose end.
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post May 31 2018, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 30 2018, 11:13 PM)
If that the case why built now? Since it take time for rudership better built it when ridership mature lo.
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the direction of population growth usually will be concentrated along the line. Just like how highways help in boosting the township, the rails will have same impact.

However in case of MRT3 i believe it is a strong case for connectivity which current rail transport is lacking now.
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post May 31 2018, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(goodiemangold @ May 31 2018, 07:09 AM)
That is exactly why we should staggered the building of all these big ticket items. Yes, future generations need it. But we don't build everything at one go. MRT already under utilized from Target passengers, still want to build new ones? Apa logic is that.
That is just like investors keep buying property even though the place is a jungle coz 50yrs later when population increase, that area will develope. Don't make sense
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It is not an easy topic to explain why it is under utilised now. For a start due to underinvestment in public transport, Malaysia is well known as car country. Hence cultural and priority wise, even fresh graduates will buy car first.

Next is once u own a car, you will utilize it as much possible even though your house is very near to mrt station.

It take few years before change of mentality etc. Also for ppl who yet to buy a car, they have choice and option.

Another biggest complain is connectivity. Just imagine now if if you want to from Kepong to OneU. Now you need to interchange in TRX which is long way but with circle line. You can interchange in sentul west (mrt2) and subsequently change at dsara (mrt1) before go to OneU. Save u hell a lot of time.

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post May 31 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(yusiang @ May 31 2018, 04:42 PM)
If you look at the cancelled MRT3 plan, it is quite obvious that half of the proposed line alignment is focused on increasing Bandar Malaysia land value, which is highly dependent on the HSR project.

Anyway I do think that the other half circle(taman desa-mont kiara-sentul) is important to complement existing lines to boost the ridership, so I hope eventually the PH gov will come out with something less bloated at lower cost.
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Whether BN or PH, it is matter of time this 486acre land will be developed..it is too prim to be left idle. Unless the TUDM base is still here....
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post May 31 2018, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(mlamlam @ May 31 2018, 05:28 PM)
refer to paultan website /2018/03/27/mrt-needs-250000-daily-passengers-to-break-even/
it needs 250K passenger per day to break even

underground station need more maintenance cost like electricity fee....
the running cost also cannot cover, why to build it?

most of the station is not doorstep unlike Singapore / HK..
it needs to change to shuttle bus..

if i park my car at MRT car park, it also costs me RM4.3 per entry.
likesaid if i go from Sungai Buloh to Uptown and park my car to MRT car park, the cost will be

RM 4.3 car park + ( RM 3.2 (TTDI) + RM 1 Shuttle bus ) * two ways = RM 12.7 per day.
If i buy a parking coupon for park whole day, the cost is RM 5, the remaining cost enough for me to cover the petrol .. why need to take MRT and take longer time to back home.
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Many are sharing the exactly same sentiment as your... however for those without car.... It is big saving as do not need to pay petrol, installment, insurance, maintenance etc... The rail projects will benefit ppl especially fresh graduates.


 

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