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Zaire.Ver
post Oct 11 2021, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(InitialB @ Oct 11 2021, 04:32 PM)
Buat ape nak pecah periuk nasi orang.
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Oww..Cmon..we shud care forummer each other.

Those fucker selling fake as genuine shud be destroyed
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post Oct 11 2021, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(InitialB @ Oct 11 2021, 03:22 PM)
Honda words should be closer to green earth engine, bottle cap color and finishing, vietnam back printing, viscosity of the lube, bottle finishing and etc.

Once you change an original oil, your engine will feel lighter cuz the old oil with dirty substances are gone.

So are the feeling of using original filter cuz it really did the jobs what an oil filter must do
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I thought got some special skill to detect fake EO. Rupa2nya, just the same method where most people use. Compare the bottles with ori.

Thing is, I need to compare Toyota, Honda, Proton, Perodua, I have to standby all the ori bottles to compare. First, I have to spend money to buy the ORI ORI oil and then compare to some shops claiming to be ori. Been there done that. Not 100% effective. Waste of time and money too.

Also for the viscosity tester, I don't think there are anything cheaper than few k to build a tester. Most of the proper testers are lab equipment that if your pomen know how to use, he no need to open workshop. Open science lab make more money. Please share if there are cheaper method to test oil viscosity. Don't tell me go freeze the fake oil and genuine oil then compare the flow rate. And no, you cannot tell viscosity by looking at the lube or rubbing with your finger.

You also mentioned, knowing only after putting the oil into the engine. Isn't that too late already? Plus, fake oil and genuine oil sometimes are hard to tell even by driving the car. I am very sure if I give you do a blind test of fake vs genuine oil, you won't be able to tell them apart 10 out of 10. Maybe 5 out of 10 which is still not accurate.

Sigh..the way you say I thought it's some new kung fu for me to learn to tell apart engine oils. If got, please share. I am always eager to learn new things.

This post has been edited by abubin: Oct 11 2021, 04:46 PM
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post Oct 11 2021, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 11 2021, 04:45 PM)
I thought got some special skill to detect fake EO. Rupa2nya, just the same method where most people use. Compare the bottles with ori.

Thing is, I need to compare Toyota, Honda, Proton, Perodua, I have to standby all the ori bottles to compare. First, I have to spend money to buy the ORI ORI oil and then compare to some shops claiming to be ori. Been there done that. Not 100% effective. Waste of time and money too.

Also for the viscosity tester, I don't think there are anything cheaper than few k to build a tester. Most of the proper testers are lab equipment that if your pomen know how to use, he no need to open workshop. Open science lab make more money. Please share if there are cheaper method to test oil viscosity. Don't tell me go freeze the fake oil and genuine oil then compare the flow rate. And no, you cannot tell viscosity by looking at the lube or rubbing with your finger.

You also mentioned, knowing only after putting the oil into the engine. Isn't that too late already? Plus, fake oil and genuine oil sometimes are hard to tell even by driving the car. I am very sure if I give you do a blind test of fake vs genuine oil, you won't be able to tell them apart 10 out of 10. Maybe 5 out of 10 which is still not accurate.

Sigh..the way you say I thought it's some new kung fu for me to learn to tell apart engine oils. If got, please share. I am always eager to learn new things.
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Cannot open ma, all bottle is sealed with the alumium foil.

Unless u can take out the oil then show u how to test lo and smell lo.

Lesson to be learned, don't be cheapskate and want something the price lower beyond the original .
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post Oct 11 2021, 05:01 PM

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I have a w205 Mercedes Warranty expired.
I think they r using synthium 5w30 MB 229.5
Can I buy 5w30 from tesco giant shell to use
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post Oct 11 2021, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 11 2021, 05:01 PM)
I have a w205 Mercedes Warranty expired.
I think they r using synthium 5w30  MB 229.5
Can I buy 5w30 from tesco giant shell to use
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Yes, if the 5W30 carries MB 229.5 OEM approval.
No, if it doesn't.

Having said this, I know for a fact the SHU 5W40 from Giant stores carries MB 229.5 OEM approval and their pricing is very very friendly, forget about what Shell Malaysia marketing says.
It is suitable for any MB that requires MB 229.5 OEM approval , viscosity does not matter is this regard.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 11 2021, 04:45 PM)
I thought got some special skill to detect fake EO. Rupa2nya, just the same method where most people use. Compare the bottles with ori.

Thing is, I need to compare Toyota, Honda, Proton, Perodua, I have to standby all the ori bottles to compare. First, I have to spend money to buy the ORI ORI oil and then compare to some shops claiming to be ori. Been there done that. Not 100% effective. Waste of time and money too.

Also for the viscosity tester, I don't think there are anything cheaper than few k to build a tester. Most of the proper testers are lab equipment that if your pomen know how to use, he no need to open workshop. Open science lab make more money. Please share if there are cheaper method to test oil viscosity. Don't tell me go freeze the fake oil and genuine oil then compare the flow rate. And no, you cannot tell viscosity by looking at the lube or rubbing with your finger.

You also mentioned, knowing only after putting the oil into the engine. Isn't that too late already? Plus, fake oil and genuine oil sometimes are hard to tell even by driving the car. I am very sure if I give you do a blind test of fake vs genuine oil, you won't be able to tell them apart 10 out of 10. Maybe 5 out of 10 which is still not accurate.

Sigh..the way you say I thought it's some new kung fu for me to learn to tell apart engine oils. If got, please share. I am always eager to learn new things.
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Same. Was hoping to learn new skill detecting the "fake" oil. But was getting different comments.
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post Oct 12 2021, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 11 2021, 07:41 PM)
Yes, if the 5W30 carries MB 229.5 OEM approval.
No, if it doesn't.

Having said this, I know for a fact the SHU 5W40 from Giant stores carries MB 229.5 OEM approval and their pricing is very very friendly, forget about what Shell Malaysia marketing says.
It is suitable for any MB that requires MB 229.5 OEM approval , viscosity does not matter is this regard.
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Don’t have any giant or tesco shell to compare now. Anyone has it here? Does it have Merc 229.5 printed
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post Oct 12 2021, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 12 2021, 06:35 AM)
Don’t have any giant or tesco shell to compare now. Anyone has it here? Does it have Merc 229.5 printed
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5w30 from giant should be SL spec wor. Ok ker? I can help check when i go on weekends.
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post Oct 12 2021, 06:46 AM

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minyak masak tuh...
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post Oct 12 2021, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Oct 12 2021, 06:40 AM)
5w30 from giant should be SL spec wor. Ok ker? I can help check when i go on weekends.
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Sorry SL only? Does that mean not suitable for new c class
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Oct 12 2021, 06:40 AM)
5w30 from giant should be SL spec wor. Ok ker? I can help check when i go on weekends.
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Shell Helix HX8 5W30 SN+ (or Malaysian version marketed as HX8 X 5W30 SN+) available in Giant USJ1 has
MB 229.5 approval at quite a discount from Shell station version even during non-promotional period.

Of course, Helix Ultra 5W40 at lower price carrying MB 229.5 approval has been available in Giants for a long long time as you understood it.

None of AeonBig Subang Jaya stock carries MB 229.5 approval.

This post has been edited by zeng: Oct 12 2021, 09:13 AM
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 12 2021, 08:19 AM)
Sorry SL only? Does that mean not suitable for new c class
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Yes, HX8 SL version does not carry MB 229.5 approval.

Note: IIRC, one can't get MB 229.5 approved oil from Tescos Puchong.

This post has been edited by zeng: Oct 12 2021, 09:18 AM
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 09:04 AM)
Shell Helix HX8 5W30 SN+ (or Malaysian version marketed as HX8 X 5W30 SN+) available in Giant USJ1 has
MB 229.5 approval at quite a discount from Shell station version even during non-promotional period.

Of course, Helix Ultra 5W40 at lower price carrying MB 229.5 approval has been available in Giants for a long long time as you understood it.

None of AeonBig Subang Jaya stock carries MB 229.5 approval.
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Wow that’s a good news
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 09:04 AM)
Shell Helix HX8 5W30 SN+ (or Malaysian version marketed as HX8 X 5W30 SN+) available in Giant USJ1 has
MB 229.5 approval at quite a discount from Shell station version even during non-promotional period.

Of course, Helix Ultra 5W40 at lower price carrying MB 229.5 approval has been available in Giants for a long long time as you understood it.

None of AeonBig Subang Jaya stock carries MB 229.5 approval.
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dammit its not available in giant setapak!!
i have been wishing for a proper 5w30 from giant laugh.gif

it will be great if anyone can share if they notice, where else they saw this HX8 SN+
thank you!

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post Oct 12 2021, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 09:04 AM)
Shell Helix HX8 5W30 SN+ (or Malaysian version marketed as HX8 X 5W30 SN+) available in Giant USJ1 has
MB 229.5 approval at quite a discount from Shell station version even during non-promotional period.

Of course, Helix Ultra 5W40 at lower price carrying MB 229.5 approval has been available in Giants for a long long time as you understood it.

None of AeonBig Subang Jaya stock carries MB 229.5 approval.
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How much is Giant selling the HX8 5w30 now?
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 12 2021, 09:46 AM)
How much is Giant selling the HX8 5w30 now?
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Promotion time, RM99 or RM89.
Non promotion time RM129 ,still cheaper than Shell station's.
All 4L pack.

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post Oct 12 2021, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 09:57 AM)
Promotion time, RM99 or RM89.
Non promotion time RM129 ,still cheaper than Shell station's.
All 4L pack.
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Now still promo or not
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post Oct 12 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 12 2021, 10:27 AM)
Now still promo or not
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Last weekend at Giant USJ1, no. NP RM129.
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post Oct 12 2021, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 12:03 PM)
Last weekend at Giant USJ1, no. NP RM129.
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Ok nvm la wait only
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post Oct 12 2021, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 09:57 AM)
Promotion time, RM99 or RM89.
Non promotion time RM129 ,still cheaper than Shell station's.
All 4L pack.
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So sad Giant all around me kolos....alternative Aeon Big price slightly higher RM129 huhuhuhu..

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