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InitialB
post Oct 10 2021, 09:59 PM

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They are selling actually recycle oil.

I kena with Honda green eart tech 0w-20 fully synthetic.

Bring to mechanic they identify fake oil and oil filter, terus dumped in oil recycling drum.

Bought new with mechanic and burned RM175.

Wasted probably RM100.
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post Oct 11 2021, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2021, 10:15 PM)
How your mechanic know? Or they really dont like customer bring eo when service?
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Oil filter ori the valve is thicker steel.

The original oil i know how to identify after some teaching by the mechanic and i compare with Honda ori.

And google got teach too. I'm too stupid and learn my lesson. His information is legit

Lapsapda and Choppee full of crap. Now even have people sell microsoft OS in DVD and Thumdrive.

You know this is illegal....


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post Oct 11 2021, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 11 2021, 11:34 AM)
still, no explanation on ori vs "fake" engine oil. how u compare or differ it? I was surprised if the mechanic know directly it is a "fake" engine oil from the smell/ colour of it
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viscosity
/vɪˈskɒsɪti/
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noun
the state of being thick, sticky, and semi-fluid in consistency, due to internal friction.
"cooling the fluid raises its viscosity"
a quantity expressing the magnitude of internal friction in a fluid, as measured by the force per unit area resisting uniform flow.
plural noun: viscosities
"silicone oils can be obtained with different viscosities"

And please google for angmoh bideo. Wa bukan angmoh...and not utuber
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post Oct 11 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 11 2021, 01:53 PM)
Please do teach how to identify fake engine oil. This is some next level kung fu.
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Honda words should be closer to green earth engine, bottle cap color and finishing, vietnam back printing, viscosity of the lube, bottle finishing and etc.

Once you change an original oil, your engine will feel lighter cuz the old oil with dirty substances are gone.

So are the feeling of using original filter cuz it really did the jobs what an oil filter must do
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post Oct 11 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 11 2021, 02:09 PM)
Explanation please. Can teach me and others
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Jangan la spoonfeed. Buy a jig to test the viscosity and study ler....

Ini semua nak suap je...malas nak buat research ker ape?

This post has been edited by InitialB: Oct 11 2021, 03:23 PM
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post Oct 11 2021, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 11 2021, 03:47 PM)
u are the one said know how to differ. ask simple questions also no answer
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Create your own test kitt by researching boss.

I learn my lesson and mistakes and burned roughly RM100.

That's how i learned. No pain no gain boss.

Success does not come easy, you have to look for it.


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post Oct 11 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 11 2021, 03:49 PM)
i suggest this mechanics join lowyat forum and teach others this valuable lesson, if it true
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Bukan nye ade gaji... Lebih baik dia kerja dapat duit.

Kais pagi makan pagi, kais petang makan petang...

Malam minum beer....

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post Oct 11 2021, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 11 2021, 03:48 PM)
this one even got one shoppe seller highlighted their sold product had this changes. so sure ori if follow the statement? Shopee
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The oil filter u need to see the valve seal.... Inside, steel valve. No show in picture.

His picture of the oil bottle 50-50 only .... I have 50% confident only.

Not sure cuz his picture giving me a mix feeling. 50% tulen 50% tiruan.

Because true color of original is cerah with viscosity yang lancar.

The color machiam recycle 0-20W

However his bottle said perfect cut and Honda words (near to green earth) saying it's tulen.

Entah la what this shopee brother trying to say

Updates:

He's price look legit.

This post has been edited by InitialB: Oct 11 2021, 04:32 PM
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post Oct 11 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Zaire.Ver @ Oct 11 2021, 04:28 PM)
They? Who are they? Can point out which seller?
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Buat ape nak pecah periuk nasi orang.

Yang salah tu saya sendiri. Nakkan benda murah, terasa la saya.

Biar la ini menjadi teladan and ajaran kepada setiap orang seperti saya.

"Once bitten , twice shy"

" Di tipu sekali saya redah ...Tertipu dua kali , kebodohan sendiri terserlah...
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post Oct 11 2021, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 11 2021, 04:45 PM)
I thought got some special skill to detect fake EO. Rupa2nya, just the same method where most people use. Compare the bottles with ori.

Thing is, I need to compare Toyota, Honda, Proton, Perodua, I have to standby all the ori bottles to compare. First, I have to spend money to buy the ORI ORI oil and then compare to some shops claiming to be ori. Been there done that. Not 100% effective. Waste of time and money too.

Also for the viscosity tester, I don't think there are anything cheaper than few k to build a tester. Most of the proper testers are lab equipment that if your pomen know how to use, he no need to open workshop. Open science lab make more money. Please share if there are cheaper method to test oil viscosity. Don't tell me go freeze the fake oil and genuine oil then compare the flow rate. And no, you cannot tell viscosity by looking at the lube or rubbing with your finger.

You also mentioned, knowing only after putting the oil into the engine. Isn't that too late already? Plus, fake oil and genuine oil sometimes are hard to tell even by driving the car. I am very sure if I give you do a blind test of fake vs genuine oil, you won't be able to tell them apart 10 out of 10. Maybe 5 out of 10 which is still not accurate.

Sigh..the way you say I thought it's some new kung fu for me to learn to tell apart engine oils. If got, please share. I am always eager to learn new things.
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Cannot open ma, all bottle is sealed with the alumium foil.

Unless u can take out the oil then show u how to test lo and smell lo.

Lesson to be learned, don't be cheapskate and want something the price lower beyond the original .

 

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