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cempedaklife
post Oct 12 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 12 2021, 12:03 PM)
Last weekend at Giant USJ1, no. NP RM129.
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Can snap a pic of what hx8 usj1 carry next time?
Wanted to see the packaging.

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post Oct 12 2021, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Oct 12 2021, 03:32 PM)
Can snap a pic of what hx8 usj1 carry next time?
Wanted to see the packaging.
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No problem, will do.
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:00 PM

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Hi, anyone have experience buying EO at this store ?

Lazada Store Name : Pro Auto Supply

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/professi...1280101290.html?

Shopee Store Name : jd_part

https://shopee.com.my/%EF%BC%88pasaran-Mala...4858?position=6


I brought the shell helix ultra 5w40 pasaran malaysia version and done register with shell rewards, the QR code is valid and got sealed, means okay?

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post Oct 13 2021, 12:41 AM

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Fucking hell, was so excited to see someone discover a way to tell between fake and genuine oil, and then I stopped reading cuz I couldn't understand the language.

But I'm glad I couldn't understand the language, cuz based on the replies, doesn't seem like much heh
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post Oct 13 2021, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Oct 13 2021, 12:41 AM)
Fucking hell, was so excited to see someone discover a way to tell between fake and genuine oil, and then I stopped reading cuz I couldn't understand the language.

But I'm glad I couldn't understand the language, cuz based on the replies, doesn't seem like much heh
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i'm really not convinced until someone can do VOA/UOA lol

there's Ester and a distinct method to identify them, but I'd leave that discussion out of here so that it doesn't get derail to hell lol!
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post Oct 13 2021, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Oct 13 2021, 12:41 AM)
Fucking hell, was so excited to see someone discover a way to tell between fake and genuine oil, and then I stopped reading cuz I couldn't understand the language.

But I'm glad I couldn't understand the language, cuz based on the replies, doesn't seem like much heh
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I've already decided to use the Shell HX8 5w30 for my next oil change.. Reason being, the oil dye colour of this engine oil is quite translucent and looks quite clear.

I know I will be able to identify that it is genuine oil just by looking at how clear the oil colour is... If it's recycled oil, it should be in gold brownish colour.

How did I know of this.. beginning of the year, I bought the HX8 and replace the engine oil on a MYVI. I had trouble checking the dipstick level because they oil colour is too light and translucent. I need to really be under the sunlight and flip the dipstick around to see the oil liquid level.

If it's recycled oil, I bet they can't achieve these sort of colour.
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post Oct 13 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 13 2021, 07:24 AM)
I've already decided to use the Shell HX8 5w30 for my next oil change.. Reason being, the oil dye colour of this engine oil is quite translucent and looks quite clear.

I know I will be able to identify that it is genuine oil just by looking at how clear the oil colour is... If it's recycled oil, it should be in gold brownish colour.

How did I know of this.. beginning of the year, I bought the HX8 and replace the engine oil on a MYVI. I had trouble checking the dipstick level because they oil colour is too light and translucent. I need to really be under the sunlight and flip the dipstick around to see the oil liquid level.

If it's recycled oil, I bet they can't achieve these sort of colour.
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psst...minyak masak pun very clear.... whistling.gif

moreover, it has been debated before in other threads, clear oil doesn't means it's good oil. Also, recycled oil doesn't means it's bad oil.

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post Oct 13 2021, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 13 2021, 02:52 PM)
psst...minyak masak pun very clear.... whistling.gif

moreover, it has been debated before in other threads, clear oil doesn't means it's good oil. Also, recycled oil doesn't means it's bad oil.
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At least it lower the chances of getting used recycled oil lor. Minyak masak is gold colour ma... Not transparent.

Our Malaysia black market recycled oil are inferior as compared to EU.

EU madate all engine oil manufacturers to use recycled oil but woth newly added additives to ensure quality.


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post Oct 13 2021, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 13 2021, 03:36 PM)
At least it lower the chances of getting used recycled oil lor. Minyak masak is gold colour ma... Not transparent.

Our Malaysia black market recycled oil are inferior as compared to EU.

EU madate all engine oil manufacturers to use recycled oil but woth newly added additives to ensure quality.
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Keyword is lower the chances of getting fake oil. Really man...we need government to work with agencies to fight against this fake oil and fake fluids issues. It is really getting out of hand. Cause the problem is, it's hard to detect which oil is genuine or fake.

Hope that our little thread here can continue to educate people on fake oils.
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post Oct 13 2021, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 13 2021, 06:20 PM)
Keyword is lower the chances of getting fake oil. Really man...we need government to work with agencies to fight against this fake oil and fake fluids issues. It is really getting out of hand. Cause the problem is, it's hard to detect which oil is genuine or fake.

Hope that our little thread here can continue to educate people on fake oils.
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Where are you getting your engine oil now bro?
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post Oct 13 2021, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 13 2021, 02:52 PM)
psst...minyak masak pun very clear.... whistling.gif

moreover, it has been debated before in other threads, clear oil doesn't means it's good oil. Also, recycled oil doesn't means it's bad oil.
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Kenapa tak cuba pakai minyak masak jer kan... or minyak bijan hahahaha...


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post Oct 14 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Oct 13 2021, 07:48 PM)
Where are you getting your engine oil now bro?
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I am getting mine from Shopee/Lazada. I go for brands that don't have fakes or confirm trusted sellers.

So far I have tested and some in queue: Toyota (from trusted seller), Mizu, Kaito, Kroner, Aisin, Rektol, Bold, Autolube

My favourite right now is Aisin. Seems good quality but their official store have increased their price.
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post Oct 16 2021, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 14 2021, 04:21 PM)
I am getting mine from Shopee/Lazada. I go for brands that don't have fakes or confirm trusted sellers.

So far I have tested and some in queue: Toyota (from trusted seller), Mizu, Kaito, Kroner, Aisin, Rektol, Bold, Autolube

My favourite right now is Aisin. Seems good quality but their official store have increased their price.
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Aisin is a very big auto brand... basically parts of toyota group
Im using their brake pad which sold under advics brand.

Didnt know they sell oil here, will def give it a try.

nowadays very difficult to buy ori petronas oil at reasonable price. Online easily got mixup with fakes

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post Nov 10 2021, 02:37 PM

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so where u guys buy online honda oil; 0-20w/30w?
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Nov 10 2021, 02:37 PM)
so where u guys buy online honda oil; 0-20w/30w?
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just drop by at Hingan Pudu.
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post Nov 11 2021, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Zaire.Ver @ Oct 16 2021, 08:55 PM)
Aisin is a very big auto brand... basically parts of toyota group
Im using their brake pad which sold under advics brand.

Didnt know they sell oil here, will def give it a try.

nowadays very difficult to buy ori petronas oil at reasonable price. Online easily got mixup with fakes
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I know about Aisin being a big brand before I took the dive to try their oil. The reason is because even though they are big brand, they are not known for their engine oils. So their brakes might be good but that doesn't means their oil is good. However, big brands have big money to invest into R&D and even have bigger reason to take care of their branding. Therefore, it is highly unlikely they will product substandard quality product. At worst, it might be something average which is still better than using fakes. For example, someone did say Bosch engine oil quality is not good. Big brand also but again, oil is not their strong suit. So anyway, Aisin oil turns out to be good but I suspect their price will increase very soon. They sold at competitive price to try capture local market. Once they have done that, their price will go back to normal.
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post Nov 11 2021, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 14 2021, 04:21 PM)
I am getting mine from Shopee/Lazada. I go for brands that don't have fakes or confirm trusted sellers.

So far I have tested and some in queue: Toyota (from trusted seller), Mizu, Kaito, Kroner, Aisin, Rektol, Bold, Autolube

My favourite right now is Aisin. Seems good quality but their official store have increased their price.
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Just bought mizu for 11.11 from official store. Looking forward to try.
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post Nov 12 2021, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 14 2021, 04:21 PM)
I am getting mine from Shopee/Lazada. I go for brands that don't have fakes or confirm trusted sellers.

So far I have tested and some in queue: Toyota (from trusted seller), Mizu, Kaito, Kroner, Aisin, Rektol, Bold, Autolube

My favourite right now is Aisin. Seems good quality but their official store have increased their price.
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Bro which and where is aisin official online store?

edit: i found in shopee now. thanks. price still looks reasonable for an engine oil in general. whats was the price like previously?
i may give it a try next.

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post Nov 12 2021, 10:04 AM

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Hi bros ,

Any recommendation where can we buy Genuine Mobil 1 5W-50 ? Online or physical shop in Klang valley also fine .

I used to purchase from GIANT at RM50-170 per 4 liter bottle , and can no longer found it .


Thanks
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post Nov 12 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 12 2021, 09:24 AM)
Bro which and where is aisin official online store?

edit: i found in shopee now. thanks. price still looks reasonable for an engine oil in general. whats was the price like previously?
i may give it a try next.
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Price has gone back down. Previously 0w-20 Greentech was like RM179. It's now back to RM128. I am going to get a few bottle to keep.

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