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 ILLEGEAR Onyx Discussion Thread V1, Illegear's first Bazel-less Notebook

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post Nov 14 2018, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Tracer3 @ Nov 14 2018, 07:48 AM)
Can someone who has replaced the keyboard switches to brown please give some feedback on the process. What does the upgrade kit consist of and how did you replace the keys?
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The staff will help you change the keyboard

It should be a whole piece of keyboard with brown switches already on it


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post Nov 14 2018, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(jrlogger @ Nov 14 2018, 09:50 AM)
The staff will help you change the keyboard

It should be a whole piece of keyboard with brown switches already on it
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The reason why I'm asking is because I have the same laptop from a different reseller. They don't offer the brown keys and don't know anything about it. I'm wondering if it's possible to buy it somewhere and replace myself. Not much information out there about this proceduee.

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post Nov 14 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Tracer3 @ Nov 14 2018, 01:39 PM)
The reason why I'm asking is because I have the same laptop from a different reseller. They don't offer the brown keys and don't know anything about it. I'm wondering if it's possible to buy it somewhere and replace myself. Not much information out there about this proceduee.
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Hi Tracer30, we have PMed you regarding your enquiry smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2018, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(AZIM@ILLEGEAR @ Nov 14 2018, 01:51 PM)
Hi Tracer30, we have PMed you regarding your enquiry smile.gif
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Is it possible to order the brown switches and replace them myself, even if I bought the laptop through another reseller? Thanks in advance.
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post Nov 15 2018, 09:44 PM

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Anyone on Onyx can test the turbo boost? The proc should be able to boost up to 4.1Ghz but no matter how I stress the cpu, I can't see it even reach 4.1Ghz. I ran Aida64 and couldn't see it goes past 2.3Ghz

This is when I ran speedtest earlier.


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post Nov 15 2018, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Nov 15 2018, 09:44 PM)
Anyone on Onyx can test the turbo boost? The proc should be able to boost up to 4.1Ghz but no matter how I stress the cpu, I can't see it even reach 4.1Ghz. I ran Aida64 and couldn't see it goes past 2.3Ghz
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Try undervolt and set Speedshift to 1 via Throttlestop. Have you tested the CPU with games?
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post Nov 17 2018, 04:47 PM

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Finally found some time to go bug the Illegear folks again and test the new cap and switches. In the end, the allure of the new stealthy Brown switches and smexy Cap 2 was to much for me and I ended up doing the full shebang switch myself.

And yeah, now I can concur with jrlogger that the "over-sensitive keys" issue (aka the "I barely rested a finger on the keys and they registered" problem) have been mostly fixed with the new switches, with a better modulated initial resistance though the initial "click" is also gone and the travel stroke is a bit less springy. At least I don't have to rely on chatterfix anymore lol.

It doesn't at all feel like a membrane keyboard to me though, not even a semi-membrane one. Compared with the older Raven semi-mech keyboard, the Browns are still a whole lot less mushy. However, if you liked the overt, typewriter-like clickiness and springy response of the old Blue switches, you might like the Browns a bit less then I did.

Finally, the differently textured surfaces of the WASD and arrow keys on Cap 2 are just genius, allowing you to identify them by feel really really easily vs the old ones. Not to mention the very nice spacing between the keys (further enhanced by the convex shape of the Caps themselves) which make the new Cap 2 a whole lot better suited for touch typing then the older ones IMHO. And yes, they do feel a lot less "loose".
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Here's a shot of my old keyboard on the freshly installed new one.

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So TL;DR, was the "sidegrade" worth it? Cap 2 feels like it's worth every cent to me, but the Brown Switches will depend on how you like your key actuation/feedback to feel like.

Also, a quick (very rough) video if anybody's still curious about the sound differences for both units:



This post has been edited by Eiraku: Nov 20 2018, 12:32 AM
adiosmofo
post Nov 22 2018, 06:23 PM

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Hi illegear team, can you pm me the details regarding upgrading to brown switch pls. Thanks
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post Nov 26 2018, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(AZIM@ILLEGEAR @ Nov 9 2018, 10:29 AM)
Hi IdiuU, the ONYX charging adapter is measured as below:

15.7cm x 7.3cm x 2.4cm (Length x Width x Thickness)
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pic of the power brick? cool2.gif
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post Nov 29 2018, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(adiosmofo @ Nov 22 2018, 06:23 PM)
Hi illegear team, can you pm me the details regarding upgrading to brown switch pls. Thanks
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Apologies for the delayed response, kindly check your PM smile.gif

QUOTE(yarusaru @ Nov 26 2018, 10:06 AM)
pic of the power brick? cool2.gif
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This would be it smile.gif Even though the image is quite big, the actual size is not this big (about medium-sized)~

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Question: Why Choose Onyx Then Raven?

Just curious want to know...
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post Dec 3 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Dec 2 2018, 11:17 PM)
Question: Why Choose Onyx Then Raven?

Just curious want to know...
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It's slimmer, lighter, smaller and have a better build (casing, mechanical keyboard). Raven is more budget oriented gaming laptop.
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any new discount price during next 12.12?.
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post Dec 4 2018, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Dec 3 2018, 12:34 PM)
It's slimmer, lighter, smaller and have a better build (casing, mechanical keyboard). Raven is more budget oriented gaming laptop.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 17 2018, 04:47 PM)
Finally found some time to go bug the Illegear folks again and test the new cap and switches. In the end, the allure of the new stealthy Brown switches and smexy Cap 2 was to much for me and I ended up doing the full shebang switch myself.

And yeah, now I can concur with jrlogger that the "over-sensitive keys" issue (aka the "I barely rested a finger on the keys and they registered" problem) have been mostly fixed with the new switches, with a better modulated initial resistance though the initial "click" is also gone and the travel stroke is a bit less springy. At least I don't have to rely on chatterfix anymore lol.

It doesn't at all feel like a membrane keyboard to me though, not even a semi-membrane one. Compared with the older Raven semi-mech keyboard, the Browns are still a whole lot less mushy. However, if you liked the overt, typewriter-like clickiness and springy response of the old Blue switches, you might like the Browns a bit less then I did.

Finally, the differently textured surfaces of the WASD and arrow keys on Cap 2 are just genius, allowing you to identify them by feel really really easily vs the old ones. Not to mention the very nice spacing between the keys (further enhanced by the convex shape of the Caps themselves) which make the new Cap 2 a whole lot better suited for touch typing then the older ones IMHO. And yes, they do feel a lot less "loose".
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Here's a shot of my old keyboard on the freshly installed new one.

Attached Image

So TL;DR, was the "sidegrade" worth it?  Cap 2 feels like it's worth every cent to me, but the Brown Switches will depend on how you like your key actuation/feedback to feel like.

Also, a quick (very rough) video if anybody's still curious about the sound differences for both units:


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omfg. im sold. im coming in to change the kb! and maybe the screen too... also im gonna need to change the HDD.
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post Dec 5 2018, 09:44 PM

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Hi Onyx owners, would like to ask you guys something, did windows 10 update version 1809 make your sound and microphone volume much softer?
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post Dec 20 2018, 11:09 PM

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Hey guys. My friend's ONYX currently has an inactive keyboard. The backlight doesn't appear when it boots up, and the keys don't respond in any way, shape or form. I've tried uninstalling the driver, but no luck. Any ideas?
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QUOTE(Cranky guy @ Dec 20 2018, 11:09 PM)
Hey guys. My friend's ONYX currently has an inactive keyboard. The backlight doesn't appear when it boots up, and the keys don't respond in any way, shape or form. I've tried uninstalling the driver, but no luck. Any ideas?
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Hi Cranky,

This is weird. Can we have the system to check physically?
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post Dec 23 2018, 02:49 PM

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Hi guys, did anyone of u experience issue with the blue switch whereby sometimes the clicky feel and sound will gone? And when u click it hard for few times the feel and sound will be back. Currently I'm expericing this in my A key
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QUOTE(cts0418 @ Dec 23 2018, 02:49 PM)
Hi guys, did anyone of u experience issue with the blue switch whereby sometimes the clicky feel and sound will gone? And when u click it hard for few times the feel and sound will be back. Currently I'm expericing this in my A key
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Sometimes the key actuation is like that. I tried before

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