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 ILLEGEAR Onyx Discussion Thread V1, Illegear's first Bazel-less Notebook

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ZM Fong
post Oct 24 2018, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(michealelsie @ Oct 24 2018, 10:41 AM)
However, I noticed one flaw which is the track pad. I hold my finger on the trackpad without moving, the cursor on the desktop keep "dancing around". I asked the sales representative whom replied that it might be driver not fully installed.

Also, they did mentioned about loud fan noise and also crazy hot button on the top part of the laptop after gaming some times.
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Driver problem

TongFang barebones have loud fan noise under load, nevertheless it can keep the internals cool. I'll still prefer this rather than silent fans+higher temps
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post Oct 24 2018, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Oct 24 2018, 12:04 PM)
Driver problem

TongFang barebones have loud fan noise under load, nevertheless it can keep the internals cool. I'll still prefer this rather than silent fans+higher temps
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True that. And hey in actual use the fans noise is not even that bad unless you're pushing the unit hard.

The massively audible KBB click of the blue switches however, is something worth thinking about (vs the more silent browns).

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post Oct 24 2018, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(michealelsie @ Oct 24 2018, 10:41 AM)
I am looking on this laptop recently. Went to the showroom/office to have a look on the real one. Good build quality.

However, I noticed one flaw which is the track pad. I hold my finger on the trackpad without moving, the cursor on the desktop keep "dancing around". I asked the sales representative whom replied that it might be driver not fully installed.

I went through the net and also noticed that reviewer pointed out the same problem.
Also, they did mentioned about loud fan noise and also crazy hot button on the top part of the laptop after gaming some times.

I would like to know more real life user experience from here. Hope you guy could
share your experience.

Thank you so much, really appreciate.
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The touchpad is awful IMHO, get an external mouse if possible. You might end up turning off the touchpad anyway when typing because palm rejection when typing is bad, at least for me.

Yeah the fan noise under load may be loud but if you are using headphones you would not notice it. May be distracting to other people around you though.
The top part can be hot when under load but that is where the heatpipes are, which helps to keep the keyboard area cool. Just have to keep that in mind when you reach for the fan boost button in the middle of gaming tongue.gif
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post Oct 24 2018, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 24 2018, 12:49 PM)
True that. And hey in actual use the fans noise is not even that bad unless you're pushing the unit hard.

The massively audible KBB click of the blue switches however, is something worth thinking about (vs the more silent browns).
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The blue switch + Cap 2 would be my choice of mechanical keyboard combination. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 24 2018, 02:05 PM)
The blue switch + Cap 2 would be my choice of mechanical keyboard combination.  smile.gif
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Does the sound lessen with Cap 2 vs Cap 1?

Also as jrlogger has mentioned before, does switching to Cap 2 lessen the "ghost typing" (registered inputs with a light touch) that sometimes happens with the original combo - or do I need the brown switches also for that?
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post Oct 25 2018, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 24 2018, 12:49 PM)
True that. And hey in actual use the fans noise is not even that bad unless you're pushing the unit hard.

The massively audible KBB click of the blue switches however, is something worth thinking about (vs the more silent browns).
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You guys are right tho smile.gif

i tested the blue switches that day, the clicky sound is still ok comparing with my current blue switches mech kbb. But the brown switches definitely more pleasant to use especially in the office like i'm going to do so.

Regarding the fan, if it doesn't suddenly kick in during normal office usage then ok. While gaming, it's understandable that it would kick in.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 24 2018, 06:29 PM)
Does the sound lessen with Cap 2 vs Cap 1?

Also as jrlogger has mentioned before, does switching to Cap 2 lessen the "ghost typing" (registered inputs with a light touch) that sometimes happens with the original combo - or do I need the brown switches also for that?
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I haven't tested that myself. But imo the CAP 2 is easier to type compared to CAP 1.

We do have customer who paid for brown switch and requested us to remain his CAP 1 because of personal preference.

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post Oct 26 2018, 05:23 PM

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May I know if the space bar is wobbly like other reviewer mentioned about? Or it is just happened on Cap 1?
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QUOTE(michealelsie @ Oct 26 2018, 05:23 PM)
May I know if the space bar is wobbly like other reviewer mentioned about? Or it is just happened on Cap 1?
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The Cap 1 keys are a bit wobbly, my Cap 2s are more stable.
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post Oct 26 2018, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(jrlogger @ Oct 26 2018, 10:10 PM)
The Cap 1 keys are a bit wobbly, my Cap 2s are more stable.
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You’re on blue cap 2 or brown cap 2?
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QUOTE(michealelsie @ Oct 26 2018, 11:40 PM)
You’re on blue cap 2 or brown cap 2?
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Brown Cap 2
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post Oct 27 2018, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(jrlogger @ Oct 27 2018, 12:25 AM)
Brown Cap 2
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Just change from cap 1 to cap 2 yesterday and i decide to remain my blue switch rather than change to brown switch. As @jrlogger mentioned, the brown switch sounds like a normal membrane keyboard with some mechanical feedback, but i love that clicky sound on my blue switch tho rclxms.gif

The keyboard doesn't wobble much like the cap 1 so overall better typing experience! thumbup.gif

And also, there is no sound difference between cap 1 and cap 2


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QUOTE(raymond_95 @ Oct 30 2018, 03:00 PM)
Just change from cap 1 to cap 2 yesterday and i decide to remain my blue switch rather than change to brown switch. As @jrlogger mentioned, the brown switch sounds like a normal membrane keyboard with some mechanical feedback, but i love that clicky sound on my blue switch tho  rclxms.gif

The keyboard doesn't wobble much like the cap 1 so overall better typing experience! thumbup.gif

And also, there is no sound difference between cap 1 and cap 2
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Wanna sell me those cap 2 brown switches?
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Oct 30 2018, 03:55 PM)
Wanna sell me those cap 2 brown switches?
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no bro, i just change the cap only, didn't buy that switch hahaha
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hi guys, I'm keen on buying this onyx laptop, but I wonder, does gtx1060 is good enough for graphic demanding games?

all this while, I just played games on low graphics, never ultra settings...so, if I were to spend a fortune on a gaming laptop, I want it to play on highest settings possible.
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QUOTE(ahchat @ Nov 2 2018, 04:22 PM)
hi guys, I'm keen on buying this onyx laptop, but I wonder, does gtx1060 is good enough for graphic demanding games?

all this while, I just played games on low graphics, never ultra settings...so, if I were to spend a fortune on a gaming laptop, I want it to play on highest settings possible.
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TBH, the next quantifiable jump up is a 1070 (non-MaxQ), which don't often come in such thin form factor laptops (except maybe the bigger brother 17incher Onyx which name escapes me right now).

So yeah, the age old question, portability vs power.

And yes, I've had a MaxQ 1070 before. The jump up really isn't all worth the extra dough TBH. We're talking about 10-15FPS increase, at most. If you really are keen about futureproofing, it's really either the 1070 or the new RTXs.

Otherwise, the 1060 should do fine for High settings on most games well into 2019 methinks. Ultra no ler.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 2 2018, 05:05 PM)
TBH, the next quantifiable jump up is a 1070 (non-MaxQ), which don't often come in such thin form factor laptops (except maybe the bigger brother 17incher Onyx which name escapes me right now).

So yeah, the age old question, portability vs power.

And yes, I've had a MaxQ 1070 before. The jump up really isn't all worth the extra dough TBH. We're talking about 10-15FPS increase, at most. If you really are keen about futureproofing, it's really either the 1070 or the new RTXs.

Otherwise, the 1060 should do fine for High settings on most games well into 2019 methinks. Ultra no ler.
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the last time I played game seriously was 2012 with gc NVidia gt640m on dell laptop which I played crisis 3 and ace combat assault horizon on low setting...

the laptop still running strong now, with me playing now n then

so, upgrading to 1060 when 1070 available, is what holding me back right now tongue.gif

n yes, 1070 mostly did not come with light gaming laptop class..most of it comes around 2.4kg n above

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QUOTE(ahchat @ Nov 2 2018, 06:40 PM)
the last time I played game seriously was 2012 with gc NVidia gt640m on dell laptop which I played crisis 3 and ace combat assault horizon on low setting...

the laptop still running strong now, with me playing now n then

so, upgrading to 1060 when 1070 available, is what holding me back right now  tongue.gif

n yes, 1070 mostly did not come with light gaming laptop class..most of it comes around 2.4kg n above
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So that's just it. Either light or powerful. Or overly expensive but middlingly in the middle (MaxQ). Your call.

Actually, if you're willing to wait until say March-April next year the laptop class RTXs will supposedly come out around then. Getting a 2060 (or whatever it is Nvidia is gonna call their next laptop midranger) in an Onyx (or an Onyx-class laptop) will pretty much solve that conundrum for you TBH - as it should at least be 1070 class.

Of course the 2070 is gonna be more powerful by then but eyyy, they're STILL not gonna fit in thin 15-inchers for sure either.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 2 2018, 06:53 PM)
So that's just it. Either light or powerful. Or overly expensive but middlingly in the middle (MaxQ). Your call.

Actually, if you're willing to wait until say March-April next year the laptop class RTXs will supposedly come out around then. Getting a 2060 (or whatever it is Nvidia is gonna call their next laptop midranger) in an Onyx (or an Onyx-class laptop) will pretty much solve that conundrum for you TBH - as it should at least be 1070 class.

Of course the 2070 is gonna be more powerful by then but eyyy, they're STILL not gonna fit in thin 15-inchers for sure either.
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Yeah, true...my requirement is simple, powerful n light and onyx is one on d list..thx for your reply! Will take into consideration..

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