thing may not be always work accordance to plan...

Rawang was 1st "developed" by the infamous TALAM group....with rumour of KLIA will be situated in the north......
even before Puchong was usually linked as gangster paradise....back water.....

20 yrs later.....the only visible development taken place in Rawang is Hong Leong bank project.......

and Puchong is an history for all you know......

Even Kota Kemuning was started about the same time Kinrara and puchong were on their 2nd gear........

now commercially it's like puchong on 6th gear, but KK is on like ........(pls feel free to fill in the blank)

the key success to new suburb developments is dev capability to innovate and differentiate.....this also aided by the essential "sparks" that will act as growth catalyst and put the township on "steroids"

- Rawang by Guocoland and Hong Bee ....sparks are Chinese school and Jusco
- SA by SP Setia - sparks are Chinese school/Tenby and connection to NKVE
- Puchong/Kinrara by IOI, SPS and InP - sparks are Kesas and LDP
- Kota Kemuning by Gamuda Land - spark is Kesas. KK was a maiden prop project by Gamuda but lacked the innovation and differentiation to enhance KK value. If Gamuda were to do like what SP Setia did to SA, KK will be like another Puchong.

well said chief!

Anytime m8!

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Added on October 19, 2011, 10:16 amvery true, maybe that's why KK price still consider reasonable compare SA. if i can save 200k+interest for a house, i don't mind to have less amenities, that 200k is just too powerful in long run.

This post has been edited by Apscen: Oct 19 2011, 10:16 AM

mind sharing where you get the 200k+interest from? you mean comparable houses in KK is 200k cheaper than SA?

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Added on October 19, 2011, 3:51 pmnot trying to dig a mummy out of the grave...but I konfuse again....

if KK is lack of innovation and product differentiation...and its neigbouring AI is basically following the same blue print minus the amenities....where do we see AI going in the near future?

no jusco, no chinese school, no mall insight, no visible commercial....?

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 19 2011, 03:51 PM

Do you guys know that Giant and Tesco is coming to Sungai Buluh?

chinese school is in KK now after nearly 10yrs....painful lesson for Gamuda and great opportunity lost for not building earlier. Amenities in kemuning are maturing now with chinese school, hospital, hypermarkets, golf clubs and perhaps international school in AI.

Commercial amenities in AI will be built in later phases. Rome kingdom is not built in 3 days....

In the interim, AI residents can access the amenities in adjacent KK while enjoying the peacefulness and quiet neighbourhood in a lushed landscape....this was mentioned in my earlier post and i am repeating here

Personally i prefer this type of quiet retreat and not too close to the hustle and bustle of commercial actvities. Regarding 0.60 toll in and out of AI, it's a small cost ($1k-2k per year) to me in return for the convenience....no perfect home in this world!

Please check and research before doing comment. Appreciate

go iproperty, compare similar size house, in long run eg.30yrs, principle+interest ,see if u get 200k or more?

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Added on October 20, 2011, 10:11 amthanks for d info! it seem that KK amenities does not lose out to SA at all

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Added on October 20, 2011, 10:28 ami think that's the best criteria to chose a home!

This post has been edited by Apscen: Oct 20 2011, 10:28 AM

i was referring to AI no chinese skool....
please read properly before comment. Appreciate

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Added on October 20, 2011, 3:08 pmyou mean say, if you were to buy a 20x70 in SA now for 688k, you can get one similar size in KK or AI at 488k? new vis new?
sure boh?

I bought a GG home in Subang for 408k few years back....whereas in DPC, similar home was selling for 488k then.
7 yrs later, my subang home....at best can sell only around 650k...whereas the DPC one, already appreciated to close to 1mil (think more)...

lesson learnt: sometimes it's not about the absolute value or size of the house.....or how much p+i you paid.....you need to look at the bigger picture....

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 20 2011, 03:08 PM

doesnt care that KK or AI, you are mention the area. By the way the school is away from AI just <2km and there is hypermarket (carrefour < 4km) around the area. Like Jet kor say, the international school is in progress... and there is place for it.

Not forget mention before end my comment, SA still the best place among KV everybody happy

This post has been edited by M2K2Land: Oct 20 2011, 03:26 PM

am talking bout principle+interest, if property price diff is 200k, in 30yrs, together with interest u r paying bout 400k+ more, rite? so now what is my property price diff?

how can u compare DPC and Subang? totally different location n concept, DPC is at his own class, and how u know in future SA will become second DPC while AI or KK will become second subang? both are similar location, you have fact n data to share? if u can foresee future, than you should have brought DPC last time isn't it?? you learnt a lesson, but how u make sure u won't repeat the same mistake?? what IF AI become second DPC ?

ayam not comparing...just sharing my (lack of) experience....
sometimes it's not about buying cheap and save the 200+ (p+I).....
when you buy it right, it's worth the investment in longer run....

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Added on October 20, 2011, 10:39 pmless than 2kms...it means diff btw Mont Kiara and Dutamas...
less than 2kms...it means diff btw Kenny hills and Setapak...
less than 2kms....it means diff btw bangsar and Pantai dalam...

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 20 2011, 10:39 PM

no doubt buy right is crucial when come to long run, SA AI KK DA have all d potential to appreciates further, everybody just need to choose his favorite hidden goldmine, sit back and count money

you still bringing the thread back alive I tot already die since no one wanna argue anymore Lets see what will happen in next couple years.

Setia Mall get ready soon will another boost up price due to this? ermmm I think so...

you sound like an educated person but you don't seem to get what others are saying...
KK was under Gamuda and Gamuda lack innovative township planning..
AI is under I&P and TTDI...different companies, different township planning style... You look at how successful Bandar Kinrara and Alam Damai for I&P and TTDI.
SA was also the same situation as AI a few years back. Now you see where SA now... why can't AI be the same?

actually, the silent majority incl residents and investors of setia alam reading this thread are just waiting for the ai thing to go away. they have no interest in ai la... if they want to comment more on ai, they will go to ai thread(s).

enough is enough la... can we please stop commenting on ai in this thread?

Hei, you bringing it up again... Yeah he is MBA graduated I think (MBA neh... wow I nearly forget I also MBA graduated since 2006, so what Lol)... As we know there is no right and wrong, he stick with SA of coz he will defense for SA... You stick with AI of coz you will defense AI. Lets see what will happen next couple of year...

Ya, back to topic better....

Honestly i hope the mall is a success, because i am SA regular visitor....tesco n giant is just too dry to spend my time.

I think it benefit me also since I am visiting my sis and bro frequent too... GSC~!!!! Yeah~!!