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limeuu
post Oct 8 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(aong @ Oct 8 2012, 01:55 PM)
I am an Aussie citizen, so I cannot apply for Aus or NZ unis. Therefore, I am only able to apply for 14 UK unis and 1 Irish and 1 Canadian unis. So, I think my chances should be quite high, if I list all 14 first?
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QUOTE(aong @ Oct 8 2012, 10:06 PM)
YAY ! biggrin.gif    rclxm9.gif
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have you thought about what happens after you graduate....since you are an aussie citizen?....uk degrees are not automatically recognised in oz....
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post Oct 9 2012, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 8 2012, 11:18 PM)
have you thought about what happens after you graduate....since you are an aussie citizen?....uk degrees are not automatically recognised in oz....
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Well I hope to do my foundation programme there, and do my specialty thereafter - will take about 13 years in total including first 5.5 years in the bachelor's degree! And who told you UK degrees can't be recognised here. It has been reported that Aus are looking avidly for UK doctors BECAUSE their degrees are recognised. Australia are partners with the UK fyi. There has been a lot of exchange between the two countries, in terms of doctors moving down from the UK, and doctors moving up to the UK to work.
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post Oct 9 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(aong @ Oct 9 2012, 09:02 AM)
Well I hope to do my foundation programme there, and do my specialty thereafter - will take about 13 years in total including first 5.5 years in the bachelor's degree! And who told you UK degrees can't be recognised here. It has been reported that Aus are looking avidly for UK doctors BECAUSE their degrees are recognised. Australia are partners with the UK fyi. There has been a lot of exchange between the two countries, in terms of doctors moving down from the UK, and doctors moving up to the UK to work.
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Doctors not from Australia or New Zealand will have to be assessed by the Australian Medical Council before they can register with the Medical Board of Australia as doctors.

AMC Assessment Pathways: Click here

Medical Board of Australia's Types of Registration: Click here

For UK doctors, you may be able to obtain registration via the Competent Authority Pathway.

Also, you should keep in mind that internship shortage are happening in Australia, UK and Malaysia. You may not be able to get your internship in the UK by the time you graduate.
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:13 AM

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i thought so.....you have not thought it out carefully....

it is unsure if uk will face a shortage of f1/2 places, at the moment all can be accommodated, but in the future, it may happen like in oz....

even if you get fy done, there is no guarantee you can stay on after that for postgraduate training...the specialist training matching can be quirky....under current tier2 visa rules, if you miss out the first round, you may not be eligible for the visa the next cycle.....as it is dependant on having set minimum income in uk the preceeding year.....

australia does NOT automatically recognise uk degrees, but as srlee has indicated, you can get provisional registration under the competent authority pathway......

uk postgraduate qualification is also not automatically recognised, and the respective australiasian colleges have extra requirements for such people.....including re-examination....
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QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 9 2012, 10:59 AM)
Doctors not from Australia or New Zealand will have to be assessed by the Australian Medical Council before they can register with the Medical Board of Australia as doctors.

AMC Assessment Pathways: Click here

Medical Board of Australia's Types of Registration: Click here

For UK doctors, you may be able to obtain registration via the Competent Authority Pathway.

Also, you should keep in mind that internship shortage are happening in Australia, UK and Malaysia. You may not be able to get your internship in the UK by the time you graduate.
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Don't worry if you are graduating from UK. Malaysia also no need to worry but whether you get adequate training is a different matter.
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:40 AM

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Well.... whatever the case is, I always have dreamt of doing my training in UK, because it is world-class. Life is only given once - we must seek the best smile.gif I'm not disparaging Australia, but given parental and their financial support (at least for the MBBS alone), I would rather go there. Plus, I want to experience living in the UK for some time. If you're clever, you can always pass the tests to be registered by your own country again. I know you will say that there is a shortage of jobs for international students, but I will somehow find my way around. It's only 5 years from now before I graduate - hard to say too much. I'm more a British at heart than Australian, anyway. (sorry australians)
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QUOTE(aong @ Oct 9 2012, 11:40 AM)
Well.... whatever the case is, I always have dreamt of doing my training in UK, because it is world-class. Life is only given once - we must seek the best smile.gif I'm not disparaging Australia, but given parental and their financial support (at least for the MBBS alone), I would rather go there. Plus, I want to experience living in the UK for some time. If you're clever, you can always pass the tests to be registered by your own country again. I know you will say that there is a shortage of jobs for international students, but I will somehow find my way around. It's only 5 years from now before I graduate - hard to say too much. I'm more a British at heart than Australian, anyway. (sorry australians)
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If you want to practice in UK, study in UK.

If you want to practice in Australia, study in Australia.

If you want to practice in Malaysia, study in Malaysia.

Although you can actually practice world-wide, it is easier to study in the country you want to work in.

Since you want to work in the UK, then going to the UK is a good choice.

If you don't mind me asking, why don't you apply straight to the UK universities?

Are you staying in Malaysia at the moment, or have had a significant amount of time staying in Malaysia?
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post Oct 9 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(aong @ Oct 9 2012, 11:40 AM)
Well.... whatever the case is, I always have dreamt of doing my training in UK, because it is world-class. Life is only given once - we must seek the best smile.gif I'm not disparaging Australia, but given parental and their financial support (at least for the MBBS alone), I would rather go there. Plus, I want to experience living in the UK for some time. If you're clever, you can always pass the tests to be registered by your own country again. I know you will say that there is a shortage of jobs for international students, but I will somehow find my way around. It's only 5 years from now before I graduate - hard to say too much. I'm more a British at heart than Australian, anyway. (sorry australians)
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i will be blunt here, and suggest perhaps a reason is inability to get direct entry into undergraduate oz med school....

don't worry, there is no shame in that, oz med schools is one of the most difficult to get in, and many aussies (pr and citizens) have taken your path before.... smile.gif


Added on October 9, 2012, 12:20 pm
QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 9 2012, 11:54 AM)
If you want to practice in UK, study in UK.

If you want to practice in Australia, study in Australia.

If you want to practice in Malaysia, study in Malaysia.

Although you can actually practice world-wide, it is easier to study in the country you want to work in.

Since you want to work in the UK, then going to the UK is a good choice.
it is NOT as simple as that....

people forget that 'practice' is work....and there are laws about who can work where....

these immigration laws are the one that will determine where you can work...and studying in that country does not mean you will automatically have right to stay on and work.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 9 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 9 2012, 12:16 PM)
i will be blunt here, and suggest perhaps a reason is inability to get direct entry into undergraduate oz med school....

don't worry, there is no shame in that, oz med schools is one of the most difficult to get in, and many aussies (pr and citizens) have taken your path before.... smile.gif


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it is NOT as simple as that....

people forget that 'practice' is work....and there are laws about who can work where....

these immigration laws are the one that will determine where you can work...and studying in that country does not mean you will automatically have right to stay on and work.....
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Maybe aong wants to live in the UK, therefore he chooses not to enter an Australian university.

Ah yes, my mistake for not being clear. I wrote what I wrote in the shoes of the country's citizen, i.e. UK citizen studying in UK, Aus citizen studying in Aus and Msia citizen studying in Msia [to practice in their own country].

International students will have to be aware of the laws, no doubt about that.
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:40 PM

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Hello guys smile.gif
I'm entering IMU next year for the medicine intake. Problem is, I've heard about IMU's orientation being quite, how do I put it, too much fun? I've always suffered from asthmatic attacks when I get too excited or do too much taxing activities, and I don't think I can join the orientation, at least most of the activities. Can any IMU seniors help me with a few questions through PM? Thank you very much!
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post Oct 10 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(LimYiHui @ Oct 10 2012, 02:40 PM)
Hello guys smile.gif
I'm entering IMU next year for the medicine intake. Problem is, I've heard about IMU's orientation being quite, how do I put it, too much fun? I've always suffered from asthmatic attacks when I get too excited or do too much taxing activities, and I don't think I can join the orientation, at least most of the activities. Can any IMU seniors help me with a few questions through PM? Thank you very much!
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Getting a letter from your doctor will be a good start.
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Oct 10 2012, 03:56 PM)
Getting a letter from your doctor will be a good start.
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I already have one but it's a few years back for my secondary school though, will request a new one. I heard some of the students just skipped the orientation and didn't attend, so I was planning to do that too if I don't get the doctor's letter by that time blush.gif thanks for the quick reply! laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(LimYiHui @ Oct 10 2012, 04:08 PM)
I already have one but it's a few years back for my secondary school though, will request a new one. I heard some of the students just skipped the orientation and didn't attend, so I was planning to do that too if I don't get the doctor's letter by that time blush.gif thanks for the quick reply! laugh.gif
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How long will your doctor need to write a simple letter?
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Oct 10 2012, 04:27 PM)
How long will your doctor need to write a simple letter?
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He's semi retired now, so it's quite hard for me to see when he's available. I can try the other doctor, I don't see him often but I guess he'll do.
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post Oct 10 2012, 05:17 PM

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you can just skip the orientation activities without any letter. Orientation usually last for 2 weeks. It's normal to see students skipping it although I would say orientation is the best time to bond and make new friends.
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post Oct 10 2012, 06:08 PM

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yay! got my offer letter today! i genuinely hope to see many of the people from this post. best of luck!
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post Oct 10 2012, 06:55 PM

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Where would I complete my internship if I apply to medicine as an international student (Australia) - Malaysia or Australia?

Can I choose to practice in Malaysia instead of going back to Australia (and complete my internship in Malaysia)?

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 10 2012, 06:55 PM)
Where would I complete my internship if I apply to medicine as an international student (Australia) - Malaysia or Australia?

Can I choose to practice in Malaysia instead of going back to Australia (and complete my internship in Malaysia)?
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you are an australian citizen, and therefore CANNOT be matched to oz/nz.....and with any of the degrees from the other pms, you CANNOT do housemanship in oz...

you can work in msia, but as a foreigner (non-msian), you will face restrictions.....it is likely that by the time you graduate, there will not be enough housemanship positions for msian graduates (local and overseas), let alone foreigners....
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post Oct 11 2012, 04:56 PM

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guys, how many places are there for imu students in the uni of edinburgh?

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 10 2012, 06:55 PM)
Where would I complete my internship if I apply to medicine as an international student (Australia) - Malaysia or Australia?

Can I choose to practice in Malaysia instead of going back to Australia (and complete my internship in Malaysia)?
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I reckon it will be more likely that you will be given an internship position in Australia. I Remember they rank medical graduates as follow:

1. Aussie citizen/PR, Aussie med school graduate
2. Aussie citizen/PR, International medical graduate (IMG)
3. Non citizen/PR, Aussie med school graduate
4. Non citizen/PR, IMG

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