Can you provide a link to your information?

It would be great if this is the case, but as an IMG, I will still have to jump through various "hoops" to register as a GP and practice in Australia.

does not apply to srlee, who is an australian citizen, and hence cannot be matched to oz/nz.....hence will NOT graduate from an aussie med school.....that list applies to graduates from oz med schools...the last category apply to those img who have passed the amc qualifying exam.....

I can't remember, it was probably from one of the university's website.

But here, i found something else

http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news/la...rnship-priority

"Under changes to Victoria’s internship program effective immediately, international students who studied in the state will be given priority over Australian residents who studied interstate."

"First priority will still go to Australian residents who studied in Victoria."

If you extract these clues from the passage, you can see prior to the change, medical grads are ranked like this in most of the states:
1. citizen/pr, aus state grad
2. citizen/pr, aus interstate grad
3. non citizen/pr, aus state grad

Now forgive me for forgetting about interstate medical school factors as well in my previous reply. And also i do not know if a non citizen/pr graduating from an interstate australian medical school would have priority over an australian citizen/pr IMG. But at least we know non citizen/pr + non australian medical school graduates will be given the lowest priority.

This post has been edited by swayforlife: Oct 17 2012, 04:32 PM

I've just had my IMU interview. I applied for the PMS programme. Initially when I rang up to confirm, one of the staff told me that I will definitely be matched to one of the PMS. However, when I asked the interviewers today, they said that those who perform poorly or do not meet the partner schools' requirements will have to stay in M'sia for the next 2.5 years. I am doing a Bachelor of Science currently, and my average is around 85.5% for all units - if I maintain this standard, it shouldn't be a problem for me to enter a PMS right? I need to confirm this, because I don't want to be 'tricked'!

All I can say for sure is that the staff who gave you that "guarantee" was very irresponsible. The interviewers are right. Plus, nobody can give you a guarantee of being matched to a PMS.

I understand that, but if you work hard and meet the requirements, you can get a PMS right? I don't see why I'm not able to since I have scored very well in my Science degree, and every year many IMU students who get only a B average get a PMS.

if you meet the PMS requirements and you make the match, then I suppose you will. Not sure about demands and similarities between modules in BSc degree and that in mbbs/MbChb degree. Guess you will know when you start

once you are accepted into a pms programme (either the undergraduate or graduate entry), you WILL get a match....IF you pass ALL the tests, exams, assessments.....they will NOT prevent you from a match.....

if you fail some, you may need to repeat some exams, repeat semester(s).....and may be excluded from matching to some unis (which requires a clear pass all the way)...or may be asked to downgrade into the local programme....or be asked to leave the programme completely....

so the trick is to stay ahead of the pack....note that on average, 20-30% of a cohort will fail and drop from the cohort.....usually at eos2.....

So you think I should be daring to accept the offer if given one? I'm clearly a very hard worker - I got a TER of 98.9%, and my BSc is currently averaging on 85.5%. I don't want to go for this PMS programme (I'm from Australia) just to end up in M'sia in the end! Anyway, like I said, from people I have contacted, most people with even a B average get a PMS, isn't that so?

'from australia' i suppose means you are either an aussie citizen or pr....which means you CANNOT match to oz....which also means you have failed to get direct entry into oz undergraduate med school.....

if the intention is to go back to work in oz, it will not be smooth sailing, but not impossible.....if you get stuck in imu, you can still sit for the amc qualifying exam.....to uk, you can use the competent authority pathway....you cannot match to canada or us, as you are not msian.....

If you are aiming for UK med schools, why not apply directly, instead of going the IMU-PMS route? I know of a student who did a semester in IMU and then left upon getting a place in the UK.

Because I didn't do extremely well in my sciences for a levels.. only got 70+
And, if I want to go for the graduate entry, I would need honours, which I will have to take another year to do, and moreover sit the UKCAT or GAMSAT .... therefore the admissions process may not be as simple as IMU's. GIven the competition as well, it is tormenting for me to wait another year. Moreover, many reputable graduate-entry schools do not take in international students.

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Added on October 22, 2012, 8:06 pmYes I am Aus citizen. Correct - I failed to get into undergrad med school here because I did not do well in the UMAT even though I attained a TER of 98.9. I believe I will not get stuck in IMU because I am very able academically, and will attain a place in one of the partner schools. It's only that I am not good at "IQ" tests such as the UMAT, even though some may not say it is difficult or it tests your IQ. I hope to work in the UK in the future. If I want to come back to Aus, I know that there is a process I have to go through, but as I am a citizen, and it won't be a problem.

This post has been edited by aong: Oct 22 2012, 08:06 PM

So you did A levels AND australian high school exam (98.9)? When will you know about your IMU application? Best of luck!

if you are referring to the uk a levels, there is no such result as '70+'....it's given in band grades from a* to e.....

No - that's impossible! I only did the tertiary entrance exam - I just called it "A-levels" to facilitate understanding among the chat members. The interviewers asked me to check my offer in 2-3 weeks' time. Thank you. It sounds all so intimidating when all the bad news about this IMU course goes around such as not being able to get into a PMS, but given the type and no. of people who have made it, I would like to stay optimistic.

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Added on October 22, 2012, 8:17 pmOh sorry - as I said I used the term "a levels" so everyone can relate more easily. I didn't know it was graded that way.

This post has been edited by aong: Oct 22 2012, 08:17 PM

Which AUS state are you in? Thought the TER final marks are scaled, and not usually expressed as percentile? Correct me if I'm wrong. You could have applied for a direct entry, and there are some med schools which are not UKCAT-heavy. ANyway you've now gone the IMU pathway.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Oct 22 2012, 08:25 PM

the umat/isat/ukcat/bmat are NOT iq tests....they are tests of logical and critical thinking, and of thinking speed....many high iq/academically excellent people do badly in this sort of tests....and it is exactly this, that the med schools want...to select out those with strong critical thinking skills from amongst the thousands of 'high iq' applicants.....

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Added on October 22, 2012, 8:43 pmyou have not done that at all, just confused people more....

what 'tertiary entrance exam' are you referring to?......

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Added on October 22, 2012, 8:47 pmyou are mistaken.....

as a non-eu citizen, there poses considerable problems with staying on in uk beyond the fy.....

and even for an aussie citizen, the process is the same as anyone else with a degree not recognised by amc....being a citizen makes no difference, other than you have the right to enter and stay in oz anytime.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 22 2012, 08:47 PM

Yes, I got a TER (Tertiary entrance rank) of 98.9 meaning my average of my 4 highest-scoring subjects was around 80 plus, which qualified me to be within the top 1.5 percent of the state. I'm in WA. I would love to apply for direct entry - it's just that I have no one to talk to and advise me about this. There are so many choices, such as Aussie schools right at my door step, which I can't even enter, such that I didn't bother thinking about applying overseas. I know the competition is crazy also, so what's the point. IMO the UKCAT is 10 times easier than the UMAT - I just haven't done it yet, but I've seen sample questions and taken a look at practice books. I really wish I can do direct entry, but I'm getting older and what if I don't get in again?!?! Waiting too long is crazy. Anyway, I'll try IMU, but meanwhile I'm also waiting for my Aussie graduate-entry school offers to be released.

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Added on October 22, 2012, 9:31 pmI'm being kind for one, not confusing anyone. In all australian states the 'a-levels' are named differently. In WA it is called TEE. You may think that there are problems staying after FY but UK-school graduates are entitled similar competition to the locals in regards to specialty training posts - please be clear on this. Like I said if you are in need in a country short of doctors, and you have the brains to be a doctor, passing a simple exam or a process is not a problem.

This post has been edited by aong: Oct 22 2012, 09:31 PM

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This post has been edited by SRLee: Oct 23 2012, 12:10 AM

most people here are well aware of the education systems in the common countries people go for education....you are NOT confusing anyone by saying oz year 12, ATAR ranks (it's no more TER), TEE/SACE/VCE etc....but you are confusing people by calling the oz year 12 you did 'a levels'......

the ATAR rank is NOT related to the actual raw marks you get....it's a relative ranking, and the raw marks insulting in say, your ATAR of 98.9 will fluctuate from year to year, depending on the difficulty of the exam and overall performance of all students....

the issue of staying on to work in the uk is one based on eligibility to stay on and work using the tier 2 visa....you are well advised to research a bit on what this means before jumping in.....

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Added on October 23, 2012, 12:29 amdifferent tests will have different emphasis on different aspects.....

but it is obviously NOT just an iq rest.....and the test is conducted in a high pressure setting, with limited time, to compel students to think fast.....candidates who are slow thinkers (they will still come to the same correct answer eventually, with time) often do badly, even when they are high academic achievers.....aong could be one of them, explaining why he did poorly in umat....

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Added on October 23, 2012, 12:33 amwhich would then mean that even if you got stuck in the imu local programme, it should not be a problem sitting and passing the amc exam then?......so what's the issue?.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 23 2012, 12:33 AM