hi everyone!

I've applied for the IMU-PMS option (Feb 2013 intake). Went for my interview last monday. My A level grades are 5Bs, 1 C. My O level grades are straight As. What do u think are my chances of getting in?

After my interview , one of those who interviewed me said I did a good job & that he really hopes I get into med school. Therefore, I guess my interview went great. Now, it's just about the relative competition.

Thanks everyone (:

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This post has been edited by grumpyorang: Dec 27 2012, 06:17 AM

I am not Malaysian. I'm from Singapore. So i sat for the Cambridge A levels. My 2nd option was for dentistry.

Those 6 subjects..are they all in H2 level? Project Work/GP are not counted.

Oh okay, I took 4 H2s. BBBC - these are my grades. PW and GP are H1 so they're excluded.

Perhaps IMU will admit you because of the higher $$ that you will be paying.
Also, some people are of the opinion that Singapore A-Levels are of a higher 'standard' than UK A-Levels.
You will be of luck if IMU shares the same opinion.

Otherwise, I think you shouldn't put high hopes on it.

P/s: I have never came across anyone who didn't do well in the IMU interview, especially if the person had already go through some other "harder" interviews. There're rumors that the IMU interview is just a formality, if you get what I mean.

Alright, thanks so much for your reply! (:

both are true......not opinions and rumours.....

note that the spore a levels is a different exam from uk/cie.....with different grading system....it's a lot more difficult to get a's than the 28% in the uk a levels...

Would that increase my chances of getting in, in any way?

probably no.....unfortunately, there is no way of equivating between the uk/cie alevels and the spore one.....and many people don't even know there is a difference....

current cut off for the pms stream is about aab....they are swamped with people with >aaa this time.......taylor's college alone produced some 300+ of them this year.....

Oh, alright. Hmm, so I'm assuming you don't personally know of anyone who got in (IMU-PMS) with grades similar to mine?

there are.....5-7 years ago....4 years ago, abb was minimum.....

even 4 years ago, with the first batch of dental students, bbb will get you in...

Those who i know personally in the IMU-PMS program have grades higher than aaa, and many of them with much higher grades, eg. multiple a*s. I personally applied in may april 2012 for the august 2012 intake with my forecasted grade of aaa, and failed to make it to the shortlist, and was delayed by one intake, so i'll only be going in next february, and i really consider myself lucky!

Lol stop acting like you know hell a lot about the examination.... The truth is a level students did well better than Sam students and the percentile of Sam is adjusted, so many students got 90+ and above and how about those that are 0.1 percentile? If you are good, then you are, not about the board of examination

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Added on November 3, 2012, 1:57 amBro ukcat is nothing like the sample questions, it's real tough if you believe me and you will headache once you finish it haah

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Added on November 3, 2012, 2:03 amI'm currently sem5, if you able to score A, you are quite secure to get your top choice, however out of 200 students, only <5 got A, so don't think it's that easy. Btw edin is mostly for A and a- students.

This post has been edited by stupidpmsstudent: Nov 3 2012, 02:03 AM

Support. This guy is an expert in the comparison of statistics between A-Levels and SAM. Maybe he should stop studying medicine and go work as an admission officer. Considering that most admission officers in the world are not as smart as him.
P/s: If that happens, half of the people who studied A-Levels will not get into university.

You are wrong man..my friend 4A's in A level..interview did badly..then IMU struggle to accept him until the very last minute just before new sem commences his parents make few trips to the campus and discuss with the head of department and only then he was offered a place..

What do you mean by paying higher money? Everyone applying for IMU is already ready for the tuition fee (at least have plan for his financial sources) so dun think that you are the one who pay the tuition fee. One more story. My another friend was rejected by IMU and finally his dad who is a politician (can't tell u who exactly) went n meet with the head of department, guess what? The person old him no matter you are DATO, TAN SRI or who, rejected means rejected..totally dun I've face, so what dou think your money can do even when those of political influence can't do anything??

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Added on November 3, 2012, 5:24 amIMU preclinical school associate dean told my friend who was a A student that not all A student will get their top choice bro..they have a private conversation regarding ow the PMS matching works but I can't tell u more details..just to say that there s bit of political factor inside..they can't send all the smart fellow for those highly ranked partner school, then let the average or borderline student ruin IMU reputation in other partner school..

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Added on November 3, 2012, 5:27 amHaha bro r u sure Bo? I dun noe ur real intention here but please do your homework..go find out he houseman ranking in 2011 see which uni graduate is the top and which one is the bottom..not to criticize about Russian graduate but few specialists commented graduates from Russian dun even know how to take blood pressure using spymomanometer..can u imagine?? Creepiest place? What do u mean by that? Campus location? Facility? Curriculum?

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Added on November 3, 2012, 5:32 amtell u one more thing bro..how sure are u edin is for A and A- students? make a call to seniors over there..there are also B and even C students there..as whatI said, not all A student get their top choice, same applied to B and C students..some of them were forced to go edin which was their 8th choice..

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Added on November 3, 2012, 5:43 amNo need to worry bro..u think the seniors going to kill u?? Many ppl skipped orientation and this is not a MUST to attend (sorry to say that) though u can get to know ur future friends, batch mates through the orientation..just inform the orientation committee would be enough..to my knowledge there is no need for proper medical documentation, but doing that would cost u no harm..

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Added on November 3, 2012, 5:53 am[quote=stupidpmsstudent,Nov 3 2012, 01:49 AM]
Lol stop acting like you know hell a lot about the examination.... The truth is a level students did well better than Sam students and the percentile of Sam is adjusted, so many students got 90+ and above and how about those that are 0.1 percentile? If you are good, then you are, not about the board of examination

Nobody care for your pre-U once you are in med school..it's like u won't care about your PMR already once you are at higher stage aiming for SPM..so there is no need to differentiate those from SAM and from A level..if you are really proud of A level then turn ur head and look at STPM straight A Chinese students who manage to enter UM medicine course..their pre-U result is 100% straight As + very outstanding cocurriculum performance..national sportsman, SEA game player etc..but no one care when they step into med school..what ppl care is whether they can be a life-saving doctor in coming time..

This post has been edited by ymir06kw: Nov 3 2012, 05:53 AM

If you read properly, this guy is a Singaporean. Therefore, he'll be paying in US$ instead of RM. That's what I meant by higher money.

Your friend is an exception then. Are you an IMU student? Did you think your interview was hard at all when compared to those of other institutions? ie, Monash, NUS, HKU?

Political factor? LOL You have to be kidding me the IMU-PMS matching is entirely random. But I do agree that there are some average student who managed to went to Edinburgh.

We're not discussing about the importance of pre-U in med school. So your argument is quite irrelevant. We're comparing the ease of scoring between SAM/A-Levels because there's one 'admission officer' here that is very particular about statistics. So your argument is quite invalid.

P/s:Please don't just argue for argument's sake lol.



This post has been edited by grumpyorang: Nov 3 2012, 07:10 AM

this show you obviously do not understand what a percentile ranking system means...

what i have quoted are all information in the public domain....

'many students get 90+'.....i presume that is atar rank....yes many....exactly 10%.....

'0.1 percentile'.....i take that to mean the top percentile, or atar rank of 99.9....well, that means that exactly.....the top 0.1 of all students get that result....

'if you are good , then you are'.....how do the unis know how good you are?.....

18% of students sitting for the uk a levels get aaa or better....how good is a student with aaa then?.....all we can say is, he is at least better than 82% of all a level students...

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Added on November 3, 2012, 7:36 aminstead of getting personal, why don't you refute any of the facts i have quoted, which are all from the public domain?....

and you are absolutely right....about half of all a levels students gain entry into university, in the uk....

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Added on November 3, 2012, 7:39 amplease point out which part of whatever i have posted that you disagree with, and which part is factually wrong.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 3 2012, 09:26 AM

Whether or not an ATAR of 82 is equivalent to an AAA at A-level is never up to us to decide. Statistically, there is nothing wrong in saying that they are equivalent, but universities have a different way of doing things, they take many things into account. Take ANU for example, they raised the requirement for GCE A-Levels tremendously this year.

For example, the requirement for GCE A-Level students to do Bachelors of Medical Science is :A*A*A (17) or AAAB (19) for 2013, while requirement for OSSD is 80%, BBC for Hong Kong A-level and ATAR90 for Australian year 12. But for 2012, the requirement for GCE A-Levels was a mere BBB (12), while others are the same.

So can you say that for the year 2012, BBB is equivalent to ATAR 90 because only 10% of the students get better grades than BBB, but in 2013 it is A*A*A? There is no clear cut here, it depends solely on universities. Some universities want to cut down the number of GCE A-Level students, hence they raise the bar for them, some think that Australian year 12 is slightly easier than GCE A-Levels and hence they think an ATAR of 95 is equivalent to AAB at A-levels (IMU).

So chill and peace out guys.

This post has been edited by swayforlife: Nov 6 2012, 02:46 PM

that is the correct equivalence....if you have been keeping up to date with education worldwide, and the kind of results being issued, you will understand why anu now finally corrected the skew.....

for the record, less than 1% of students in the hk a levels get aaa....people who doesn't know that will wonder why uk a level a*a*a=hk bbc......

of course, equivalence is never an exact science, as there are other factors involved, but the margin of error should surely not be too large?....

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Added on November 6, 2012, 4:13 pmthe old equivalence used by most oz unis is obviously wrong, and this has been pointed out many times before by many people, both in this forum and other education forums....

there is no attempt to disadvantage a level students, their money is as good as those with year 12.....in fact, it is clear that for years, oz unis are favouring a levels results, as that's what most full fees international students from msia/spore have....

based on percentile ranking for the uk a levels results as available in the public domain, it works about this:

aaa=atar82
a*a*a*=96

if we extrapolate the relationship in a linear fashion, then roughly,

a*aa=86-87
a*a*a=91-92



This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 6 2012, 04:13 PM