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 Buying new laptop? Need RECOMMENDATION?, PLEASE POST IT HERE !!! Ver. 2.

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post Jun 20 2007, 10:42 PM

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can compare benq s41 and acer gemstone for me?
from feature, spec., price, ...................
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post Jun 20 2007, 10:46 PM

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I'm currently trying to find a suitable laptop..so I'm asking for help from all of you gurus..so, here's my requirements :

1) core 2 duo, at least 2ghz
2) must be 2gb ram
3)screen size... preferable 15'
4) graphic card : must be able to support direct X10 and preferably geforce brand, e.g. geforce 8600gt?
5)windows vista home or home premium...as long as it's vista
6)err... maximum rm 5000... cant really cross that

I'm looking specifically a laptop that can deliver a nice or mediocre experience, games such as dawn of war, battle field 2 ,need for speed :carbon and so on and so forth...

will acer's aspire 5290g fits the job nicely? the design and weight isn't all that cool, but as long as it performs as it should then it's ok in my book... so will it be able to deliver a smooth gaming experience? or am i asking too much from an above average laptop?

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post Jun 20 2007, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Jun 20 2007, 07:04 PM)
At the moment, these laptops arn't even available on the market, so in terms of performance, there's few who have tested and benchmarked them..... but I still think they should at least add in a 8600GS for that price.......

From the looks of it at the Roadshow in 1Utama the other day, it looks quite nice and feels about right...... but the "model" there showing off the new laptop says it's "only a test model, so it hangs quite alot"....   doh.gif

I kinda like the outside design pattern, but a little "ah beng" for my taste.....
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Hmm... Outside old gen Acers having horrendous build quality problems (I experienced one myself, my bro's TravelMate had a cracked lid that led to it cracking completely open), infamous heat management problems and equally infamous customer service issues (which every brand has, to be fair), I have to say that the new Gemstones DO have attractive specs... And doesn't look too badly built... icon_rolleyes.gif

And even if it's a test model, hanging a lot IS NOT a good sign... No review on the net has mention how the Gemstone fares in terms of heat management, and it's got a 8600GT on board too... So I hope it won't become a repeat of the overheated tragedies that some Radeon x1600 equipped Aspires turned out to be... sweat.gif

But we won't know until somebody here gets one, right?

QUOTE(derred @ Jun 20 2007, 08:22 PM)
When do u will think u need it? Is that a fixed budget or it can grow over months? StarCraft 2 will be coming soon, and it says will be like somewhere in the end of this year or most prolly next year. If u need it quick for schooling for the next semester or sumthing like dat, then get what john jay's suggest or try to research on Dell's like if they are having student discounts, coupons, go-to school deals etc. Last month the 23-years anniversary cut down 23% some of the products. Never afraid to call em if they are toll-free, ask for whatever discount they can give and im sure they will answer you. U can go details like mentioning ur budget and see what the best they can offer. They prolly couldnt negotiate like 3rd-person does, but they can throw-in student discount or coupon or wuteva. Just ask em.
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I know Dell has student discounts for the US, but I'm not aware of anything like that here... All we have are their special deals (and some coupons)... I did ask for a student discount, and all they said they had was a discount for their printers... sweat.gif

And I'm waiting impatiently for Blizzard to deliver with the "it can run fine on older hardware" SC2 rumour... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Malaysia Boleh!! @ Jun 20 2007, 10:19 PM)
Vaio C series how much now?
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RM4988 for the VGN-C25G (the one with the GF7400)...

If you want something cheaper for even better specs, get a Dell XPS M1210... Dell's clearing them out cheap at only RM4600++ for a 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo (faster then the C25G), 2GB RAM, nVidia GF7400go (same card as on the VGN-C25G), 120GB hard disk (40GB more then the C25G) and 3 year CompleteCover (the best warranty in the business)... icon_rolleyes.gif

But I'd say, wait... A whole army of new replacement models are coming in a few weeks time... The VAIO C (and everything else, the M1210 included) would (as usual) be hopelessly obsoleted by then... sweat.gif

I'm out of coins to throw too... I guess it's just my long wided RM1 then... icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on June 20, 2007, 10:56 pm
QUOTE(22 @ Jun 20 2007, 10:46 PM)
I'm currently trying to find a suitable laptop..so I'm asking for help from all of you gurus..so, here's my requirements :

1) core 2 duo, at least 2ghz
2) must be 2gb ram
3)screen size... preferable 15'
4) graphic card : must be able to support direct X10 and preferably  geforce brand, e.g. geforce 8600gt?
5)windows vista home or home premium...as long as it's vista
6)err... maximum rm 5000... cant really cross that

I'm looking specifically a laptop that can deliver a nice or mediocre experience, games such as dawn of war, battle field 2 ,need for speed :carbon and so on and so forth...

will acer's aspire 5290g fits the job nicely? the design and weight isn't all that cool, but as long as it performs as it should then it's ok in my book... so will it be able to deliver a smooth gaming experience? or am i asking too much from an above average laptop?
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In short... Yes... The Gemstone would do well (even my M1210 with its aging GF7400go plays DOW and BF2 at medium-high just fine... Carbon's another story though)... icon_rolleyes.gif

But like I said, it's an untested commodity... The only reviews so far on the net were (IMHO) not THAT in depth... We need somebody here to get their hands on it and test it silly... blacktrix?


Added on June 20, 2007, 11:00 pm
QUOTE(walauweb @ Jun 20 2007, 10:42 PM)
can compare benq s41 and acer gemstone for me?
from feature, spec., price, ...................
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S41 = 8600GS (slower), cheaper, low chances of heat problems (BenQ lappies have goon heat management, so far)

Gemstone = 8600GT (faster), a bit more expensive, higher (unproven) chances of heat problems (based on past Radeon x1600 Aspires)...

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This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 20 2007, 11:00 PM
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post Jun 20 2007, 11:04 PM

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can u guys recomend me a laptop that has

- 1 Gig RAM...if 2 gig also can...
-a big screen...not small like the xps
- can use powerful GC...such as 7400....not the GMA one...

and my budget is about 3.5k....plz plz...
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Hehehehe....... providing I have some downtime from my internship job, I'll bench test the hell out of my Gemstone............

It'll be on for most of the days in the office....... which is like, from 10am to 9pm.......

Once Internship is over..... hopefully can field test it at a starbucks for a little WoW gaming...... Luckily I already bought a Razer Diamondback mouse for that!
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post Jun 20 2007, 11:18 PM

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In short... Yes... The Gemstone would do well (even my M1210 with its aging GF7400go plays DOW and BF2 at medium-high just fine... Carbon's another story though)...

But like I said, it's an untested commodity... The only reviews so far on the net were (IMHO) not THAT in depth... We need somebody here to get their hands on it and test it silly... blacktrix?
so, is 1.8ghz processing speed fast enough? i plan on a 2.0ghz, but sadly, the brochure for gemstone only wrote 1.8ghz, too bad then...is it acceptible?

currently, the only worry i have is the heat thingy everyone's talking bout, i'm scared to fork out that much just to have it burned inside just cause i cant stop from playing too much...

and so i hope that gemstone would be able to run starcraft 2 smoothfully even with mediocre graphics.. would be sad to know that I cant play the most anticipated game on my laptop..




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post Jun 20 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(john_jay2 @ Jun 20 2007, 10:33 PM)
i thought u said u buy at your fren's shop ?
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I just got to know that my fren is a manager there. Not the owner of the shop. Haha. He is the top seller there who sell about 1500 unit of notebook each month doing exporting. Fuh...

Played with Gemstone today at his shop. Only arrive today afternoon according to him. Wow, i must say i am impress with the Vista score. 4.7 for a notebook that only cost Rm4499. (after discount can get Rm4299). The graphic performace score an impressive 5.2! This acer is a bargain running Santa Rosa with Geforce 8600 with directx 10. Then summore subwoofer lagi. Impressive performance with super cheap value! thumbup.gif

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given a choice, for compaq V series, will you take amd or intel? any particular reason why?
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post Jun 20 2007, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(popiah04 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:29 PM)
given a choice, for compaq V series, will you take amd or intel? any particular reason why?
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Of course Intel la.. Do a little googling dude to see the bechmark and why intel is better than AMD.
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post Jun 21 2007, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jun 20 2007, 09:53 AM)
Hmm... Outside old gen Acers having horrendous build quality problems (I experienced one myself, my bro's TravelMate had a cracked lid that led to it cracking completely open), infamous heat management problems and equally infamous customer service issues (which every brand has, to be fair), I have to say that the new Gemstones DO have attractive specs... And doesn't look too badly built... icon_rolleyes.gif

And even if it's a test model, hanging a lot IS NOT a good sign... No review on the net has mention how the Gemstone fares in terms of heat management, and it's got a 8600GT on board too... So I hope it won't become a repeat of the overheated tragedies that some Radeon x1600 equipped Aspires turned out to be... sweat.gif

But we won't know until somebody here gets one, right?

I know Dell has student discounts for the US, but I'm not aware of anything like that here... All we have are their special deals (and some coupons)... I did ask for a student discount, and all they said they had was a discount for their printers... sweat.gif

And I'm waiting impatiently for Blizzard to deliver with the "it can run fine on older hardware" SC2 rumour... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think blacktrix is talking about HP, prolly hes talking bout Acer.. ah nevermind neither one concerned me at all.

That's super funny when they answered like that biggrin.gif "Do u have student discount for any of ur laptops?" asked Eiraku, then Dell reps, "oh we actually have discount on printers, interested? whistling.gif " If i were you, ill be like rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:28 PM)
I just got to know that my fren is a manager there. Not the owner of the shop. Haha. He is the top seller there who sell about 1500 unit of notebook each month doing exporting. Fuh...

Played with Gemstone today at his shop. Only arrive today afternoon according to him. Wow, i must say i am impress with the Vista score. 4.7 for a notebook that only cost Rm4499. (after discount can get Rm4299). The graphic performace score an impressive 5.2! This acer is a bargain running Santa Rosa with Geforce 8600 with directx 10. Then summore subwoofer lagi. Impressive performance with super cheap value! thumbup.gif
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whats ur fren name ?
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:15 AM

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Dude, there's a gemstone READY FOR SALE THERE????


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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:28 PM)

Played with Gemstone today at his shop. Only arrive today afternoon according to him. Wow, i must say i am impress with the Vista score. 4.7 for a notebook that only cost Rm4499. (after discount can get Rm4299). The graphic performace score an impressive 5.2! This acer is a bargain running Santa Rosa with Geforce 8600 with directx 10. Then summore subwoofer lagi. Impressive performance with super cheap value! thumbup.gif
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how is the built quality... issit sturdy or look cheapo
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(john_jay2 @ Jun 21 2007, 09:14 AM)
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Ah Ngai. U know?
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 20 2007, 11:28 PM)
I just got to know that my fren is a manager there. Not the owner of the shop. Haha. He is the top seller there who sell about 1500 unit of notebook each month doing exporting. Fuh...

Played with Gemstone today at his shop. Only arrive today afternoon according to him. Wow, i must say i am impress with the Vista score. 4.7 for a notebook that only cost Rm4499. (after discount can get Rm4299). The graphic performace score an impressive 5.2! This acer is a bargain running Santa Rosa with Geforce 8600 with directx 10. Then summore subwoofer lagi. Impressive performance with super cheap value! thumbup.gif
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cannot trusth Vista score. not so detail. hahaa.
But it is good to hear that there is a gemstone on the shore of malaysia. hahaaa. smile.gif
I can't wait to see the product myself.

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QUOTE(Spiv @ Jun 21 2007, 10:20 AM)
cannot trusth Vista score. not so detail. hahaa.
But it is good to hear that there is a gemstone on the shore of malaysia. hahaaa. smile.gif
I can't wait to see the product myself.
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Head on to low yat dude.. Dun wait liau. Well i was once hate acer so much as their notebook look a little cheapo but i am totaly stunned with the impressive Gemstone. Nice design but fingerprint magnet ofcourse.
But the real catch here is the latest DirectX10 Geforce 8600GTS. Selling only at Rm4299 is a real bargain la. The spec about more or less the same with Asus G1s. G1s selling at Rm6988! Summore Santa Rossa lagi. Wireless Pre N! drool.gif
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Dude, if it's on sale, I'm heading on Saturday to pick me up one.

Is it the 1.83ghz version or the 2.0ghz version?
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post Jun 21 2007, 12:04 PM

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Is it limited stock, I don't have much cash now, unless pay installment because credit card limit very low.
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video review from cnet for gemstone:
http://videos.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,1391015...034216-1,00.htm

it's bmw heh, too bad about the usb port. :9
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I seriously need recommendation from u guys

beside benq S41 got what else good one??

budget preferably less than 4k

screen at least 14" and not acer or dell

pls give me at least 3 choices to choose from besides S41

thx guys(for seller,pm me pls)

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