@TauhuTauhu,

what will u do for the laptop ? Business presentation ? work ? gaming ? movie ?

XPS have class 3 or 4 graphic card if im not mistaken. So u wouldnt want to have that if ur a gamer. If size really matters, then go XPS or VIAOs. I personally think VIAOs overprice but XPS always got lemons according to XPS thread here in lyn. So far thats the pattern i recognize.

sinoffire,

u can buy asus with 6150 LE card or compaq with equivalent card or cheap dell but better cards (7300gs/x1300/x1400) from one of the sellers @ lyn.

Eiraku got it rite if u asked me. U would want to wait for OSX Leopard tho. Its $129 USD for any kind (Home, Business or Ultimate ). It also have both 32-bit and 64-bit in the same package.

ur budget will limit whatever high-end graphic card u want. Im not that familiar with laptops-line that on the market now but my suggestion will be since ur getting windows XP, I assume u dont want dx10-capabilities for future gaming. So get any kind except those 8xxx series. I suggest u get the best gpu u can get by changing ur ram to 1gb for now, and upgrade it along the road. GPU part is harder to get rather than ram. So if ur a gamer, consider the gpu first. U can check laptop's gpu classes @ http://www.notebookcheck.net

In case ur changing ur mind about the dx10, it whether u wait for high-end dx10 mobile gpu to come out, or just get that 8600GT for now.

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Added on June 18, 2007, 9:26 ambudget please. and what will u be using it for? gaming? stuffs? name it.

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 18 2007, 09:26 AM

U keep mentioning 17" screen. I assume u need the mobility feature of laptop but u wouldnt mind to have a desktop replacement that sits on desk or sumthing like that most of the time. FYI, 17 incher lappy is considered "heavy" for u to move it like every 10-15 minutes but "light" enough to carry with u for a LAN party or "balek kampung" compared to a desktop. So think about it..

I myself impressed with Asus G1s/G2s. Among those 2, it is between weight and screen (monitor). I however, have chosen screen as I prefer a larger display for my work and gaming purposes.

ur funny. I wish i can help but im not that familiar with Malaysia's laptop lines. I can recommend some brand tho, Dell will be good product that comes with an outstanding customer service. Asus is kinda hot and impressive, and others are pretty much the same. Personally, I think HP sucks but HP manages to sell a lot more than i think they could so. Ppl say Acer sucks but my previous system was an Acer, i must say it has done quite a job for me and really live up to my expectation. In fact, it impresses me with it capability to be able to play one of my favorite game, Titan Quest. Good luck choosing a laptop.

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Added on June 19, 2007, 11:51 amI thot the new one have 8600M GT ? isnt it? Thats what it says in their website. It depends on specific card if ur comparing Nvidia's with ATi's. Some ATi's surprisingly do better than Nvidia in both XP and Vista. Let me know what's the cards are and we could discuss more about that.

Dont get me wrong i dont own a G2s. I was mentioning about 17 incher lappy. That is what I own. Not a G2s, just to make things clear here.

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 19 2007, 12:02 PM

ah its ok, so is G1s also has 8600M GT too? If that's the case, like i said, it is between weight and screen.

I own something else. Its on my siggy. Much much more sweeter than G1s/G2s if u asked me. However, like i said, Asus impressed me. I might go for Asus for my next mobile system (that would be like 3-4 years from now).

John Jay, reserve a G10s for me in 4 years to come .

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 19 2007, 12:44 PM

If u asked me, its really isnt the cost of the AW lappy that holds a Malaysian to get an Alienware, but instead its support and warranty do (including shipping,handling, and taxes that need to be settled from here).

I configure a nice setup that is slightly has lower spec from mine (I include SLi) basically i can get everything including shipping and taxes for just RM7251.30 according to today's rate. I could have RM6906.00 setup without SLi but with better proc and RAM. That isnt that bad right? The problems are (i actually have discussed this alot in other threads) shipping and handling, government import taxes, and warranty & services. I think we could only wish Alienware reaches our shore so some of us could experience SLi in a laptop.

ADDED: Note that the shipping and taxes is applied for local (United States). Even if u r an american, it would cost u about RM350-RM400 just for the shipping, and that exludes the taxes charge. With taxes, it will cost you about RM500-RM600 just for shipping and taxes even if u lived next to the Alienware HQ. The only way to buy an AW system is to buy it online or by phone. U cant get it from retail for a brand new system. So my point is, the cost i mentioned above includes the shipping and taxes (for the U.S), so for an SLi notebook that costs around RM7000-RM8000 isnt that bad if u asked me. Too bad for Malaysians we have to deal with other things such as import taxes, international shipping, and unacceptable warranty policy.

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 19 2007, 01:53 PM

lol yeah. That one costs alot ! The 19" could reach like RM12,000++. It's the ALX. That one is unnecessary bcoz the extra thousand dollars u pay is actually for the first-class support and services plus the accessories that they throw-in with the ALX. That is absolutely unnecessary if u asked me.

yup RM7251 is not that bad isnt?, especially for an SLi notebook. That one is for the much humbler m9700. (I checked dictionary and there is a word "humbler"..)

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 19 2007, 02:14 PM

yup ur rite john jay

haha yeah at first i made that up.. then i was like, hmm is there such word? humbler? then when i found it i was like, "I was luckily correct"

yup good to know some of u gamers getting Asus as ur system. Do post some reviews and benchies by the time u got it. Let us know ur choice too.

I have to agree with blacktrix on Acer, I as an ex-Acer user, would have to say Acer is not that bad. Like he said, it is more focused on the budget, so of coz it seems inferior if ur comparing it with an Asus in term of built-quality, performance etc. In terms of budget, Acer delivers quite a decent performance I would say.

There is nothing wrong with Acer, if u willing to spend another RM2k just because u want a more branded item, I would say thats unnecessary. I owned Acer TravelMate 4210 (or sumthing like that) for about a year and a half, sold it to my friend like 4 months ago. He dropped the Acer quite a few times, but it still working flawlessly with a minor crack on it (it happened in front of my very own eyes). I have to say it deserved the crack, given the number of times it has dropped from a chest-height kitchen table.

Before anyone saying that I have a low taste in terms of brand, Im currently using Alienware's m9700. Of coz Acer or even Asus couldnt beat it in term of performance, stability etc. Just that i wanted to share my personal experience that I have with Acer. Trust me, Acer is not as bad as we think it is. there u go, my 2 cents.

ADDED: about Acer GemStone, I still agree with Blacktrix, for the price : performance ratio, it is quite an interesting deal, if u asked me.

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Added on June 20, 2007, 6:15 pmand if u play counter-strike alot, Acer is quite stylish if ur an acer in ur team and game, if u understand what i mean. Yeah, the lingo used is "ace", so as the player who "ace" the round or rounds, u will be labeled as "Acer". Seems cool to me.

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Added on June 20, 2007, 6:30 pmDo u know they even tested the customer services and supports of most of laptops brand for this month Laptop Magazine? Do u know what HP gets? HP couldnt manage to get even a B. They even compare the on-hold minutes that they put u on, i couldnt recall but HP is definitely not the best in terms of that. Of course they do it in average, not just with one call. HP sells better, but that doesnt mean it have better products. If we wanna start comparing in terms of the hottest selling and services, then of coz the winner is Dell. We all know Dell's products arent that attractive and good in terms of performance, durability etc in the first place.

Again, dont define a product by the company's name. Here specifically in my place, no one including mac user dont have any problems with their lappies, the only brand owner that come to me with "loud fan" or "overheating gpu" is in fact, HP. Yet another 2 cents.

p/s:The best for the test is Gateway, if u wanted to know.

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 20 2007, 06:32 PM

haha its fine, i understand even my little bro owns a HP. I was just throwing some facts, to share with users and forumers here as guidance. I dont like how ppl gets infected with misrepresentation of certain products, such Acers just bcoz of some opinions of other forumers. If i saw something like that, i usually will come to straighten anything that i feel is not fair. Give em credits that they deserved, rite?

now that one is free. In fact im out of coins too

I actually want ppl to read about the Acer thing that I posted, but fine with that.

@diner,
I have no idea about Malaysia's laptop lines for the time being. Im sure some of forumers will come to the rescue for that.

@kenzai82,
yes u can to answer u but just some parts like ram, HDD like that. I dont know for sure about graphic card and proc, but i might say u cant (that is what i read from LYN forums). Note that laptop is not as upgrade-able as dekstop. Unless ur living in the US or UK (or Japan i think), ur options wont be as much as they could have.

ADDED: It is very specific on the model too, not just the brand. Couldnt say much but personal experience, my lappy have options from 7800gtx to 512mb 7900gs for the max it can go. I could have 256mb 7900gs (or 2 x 256mb 7900gs) too which i currently have. But that is Alienware, so my point is, it really depends on the model u have, regardless what brand it is. Some are easily upgrade-able and some are not. U can call HP service or support for more specific details like that, and the availability of the product could also be a problem too. U might need to get it online i believe.

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 20 2007, 07:25 PM

gimme ur budget and types of games. Im pretty much sure other forumers have the answer. I couldnt go much specific as im not familiar with Msia's laptop lines like i mentioned.

When do u will think u need it? Is that a fixed budget or it can grow over months? StarCraft 2 will be coming soon, and it says will be like somewhere in the end of this year or most prolly next year. If u need it quick for schooling for the next semester or sumthing like dat, then get what john jay's suggest or try to research on Dell's like if they are having student discounts, coupons, go-to school deals etc. Last month the 23-years anniversary cut down 23% some of the products. Never afraid to call em if they are toll-free, ask for whatever discount they can give and im sure they will answer you. U can go details like mentioning ur budget and see what the best they can offer. They prolly couldnt negotiate like 3rd-person does, but they can throw-in student discount or coupon or wuteva. Just ask em.

This post has been edited by derred: Jun 20 2007, 08:23 PM

I think blacktrix is talking about HP, prolly hes talking bout Acer.. ah nevermind neither one concerned me at all.

That's super funny when they answered like that "Do u have student discount for any of ur laptops?" asked Eiraku, then Dell reps, "oh we actually have discount on printers, interested? " If i were you, ill be like

kenzai lol i thot we were done.. hmm john jay to the rescue or prob Eiraku

M1X, are u sure u want a laptop? From ur demand, i can see how the lappy wont satisfied as much needs u want. Think back why do u need the mobility. Give urself a reason. If u find one, then let's continue discussing bout what lappy shud u get will ya?

chill, i understand, some of us here are students too. Unless ur games are too demanding, i dont see why u need such a powerful gpu laptop. Get a very powerful cpu and ram as u could, as light as u could as u will travel alot. Unless u dont care if ur back killin ya, u can always go for a 3kg and above notebook. Try something lower, trust me it will saves some of ur days especially during those days where u wake up and realize ur already late. and saves ur back too.