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post Aug 2 2019, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Aug 2 2019, 10:13 PM)
black level. OLED contrast and black level is unbeatable (for now)
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Oh i think he asked about QLED instead of OLED? i'm interested to know as well QLED and nano cell which one better.
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post Aug 3 2019, 12:30 PM

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QLED = fancy name for LCD VA Panel.
Nanocell = fancy name for LCD IPS Panel.

Which is better? That depends on what you're looking for. QLED with VA Panels will always have better contrast ratio, deeper blacks and its sRGB coverage range is generally higher. Nanocell on the other hand excels with much better viewing angles, LG's image processing (for upscaling) is also IMO generally better than Samsung's.

That said, QLED spans the entire range of Samsung's displays from - entry level to high end. Nanocell really only spans LG's entry and mid-range displays. It's a little tricky to compare them in an apples-to-apples comparison.

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post Aug 3 2019, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 3 2019, 12:30 PM)
QLED = fancy name for LCD VA Panel.
Nanocell = fancy name for LCD IPS Panel.

Which is better? That depends on what you're looking for. QLED with VA Panels will always have better contrast ratio, deeper blacks and its sRGB coverage range is generally higher. Nanocell on the other hand excels with much better viewing angles, LG's image processing (for upscaling) is also IMO generally better than Samsung's.

That said, QLED spans the entire range of Samsung's displays from - entry level to high end. Nanocell really only spans LG's entry and mid-range displays. It's a little tricky to compare them in an apples-to-apples comparison.
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Thanks for the explanation. Looks like it's down to what my eyes prefer and what my pocket can afford. Reviews from overseas seem to prefer VA panels over IPS panels. Guess I would need to go down and have another look at it myself. The problem I faced seems to be that both TVs have two different sample videos that they keep replaying over and over. Maybe I need to set them on the same video playback to compare.

BTW, if anyone is interested, it seems that reviews also put the Q60R in a bad light, so the best entry-level QLED is actually the Q75R (Q70R overseas).
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QUOTE(Two5Kid @ Aug 3 2019, 01:46 PM)
Thanks for the explanation. Looks like it's down to what my eyes prefer and what my pocket can afford. Reviews from overseas seem to prefer VA panels over IPS panels. Guess I would need to go down and have another look at it myself. The problem I faced seems to be that both TVs have two different sample videos that they keep replaying over and over. Maybe I need to set them on the same video playback to compare.

BTW, if anyone is interested, it seems that reviews also put the Q60R in a bad light, so the best entry-level QLED is actually the Q75R (Q70R overseas).
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Most people watch TVs from straight on, so VA panels does produce better image quality.

You cannot compare videos from TVs in a store. Why? Because the displays in stores are wildly wrong in the first place - they are set to "vivid" mode, way too bright to combat the harsh lighting in electrical chain stores. They are in no way accurate to make a judgement.
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post Aug 3 2019, 06:49 PM

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Digging further into this TV hole, I found another competitor that comes with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos which is non-OLED screen -- Panasonic GX880. Almost around the same price range too.

How would this perform against the bigger names like Sony, Samsung and LG?
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post Aug 4 2019, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Two5Kid @ Aug 3 2019, 07:49 PM)
Digging further into this TV hole, I found another competitor that comes with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos which is non-OLED screen -- Panasonic GX880. Almost around the same price range too.

How would this perform against the bigger names like Sony, Samsung and LG?
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Malaysian market is GX800.. and based on spec sheet it is using IPS 'Super Bright Plus' panel, as opposed to VA in some international market. I've only seen one GX800 in 55" which was setup improperly which i believe didnt do the tv justice. I was considering this model to replace my Pana Plasma but decided to wait until more shops display this model. Its still relatively new and shops hardly promoting this tv.
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post Aug 4 2019, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 4 2019, 09:56 AM)
Malaysian market is GX800.. and based on spec sheet it is using IPS 'Super Bright Plus' panel, as opposed to VA in some international market. I've only seen one GX800 in 55" which was setup improperly which i believe didnt do the tv justice. I was considering this model to replace my Pana Plasma but decided to wait until more shops display this model. Its still relatively new and shops hardly promoting this tv.
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The one I saw in SenQ was the 750 version. I copied the 880 from Panasonic Malaysia website. Anyway, I was just wondering would it be better just to get this since it comes with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos out of the box. I don't need OLED, my TV will always be in a bright room and I also do not need any wide-angle viewing.

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QUOTE(Two5Kid @ Aug 4 2019, 05:25 PM)
The one I saw in SenQ was the 750 version. I copied the 880 from Panasonic Malaysia website. Anyway, I was just wondering would it be better just to get this since it comes with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos out of the box. I don't need OLED, my TV will always be in a bright room and I also do not need any wide-angle viewing.
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880 comes in 75" only.
You probably want a tv with VA panel.
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post Aug 4 2019, 10:31 PM

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hi,

is sharp 60 4k uhd good?
rm2400 only

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post Aug 6 2019, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(benlaw @ Aug 4 2019, 10:31 PM)
hi,

is sharp 60 4k uhd good?
rm2400 only
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the price can tell the panel and graphic engine performance ed.
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post Aug 9 2019, 10:33 AM

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I haven't gotten my TV yet. Really itching to just shoot my credit card with ezy payment and get the oled c8 or q9fn along with a PS4 from Harvey Norman.

Alas, wedding is getting nearer and whatever I can make goes into it. Sigh.

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post Aug 9 2019, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 9 2019, 10:33 AM)
I haven't gotten my TV yet. Really itching to just shoot my credit card with ezy payment and get the oled c8 or q9fn along with a PS4 from Harvey Norman.

Alas, wedding is getting nearer and whatever I can make goes into it. Sigh.
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post Aug 9 2019, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Aug 9 2019, 11:17 AM)
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But they say for gaming Samsung tvs are better wor with their sync

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post Aug 9 2019, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 9 2019, 11:23 AM)
But they say for gaming Samsung tvs are better wor with their sync
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Only if you are planning to get an Xbox one X , VRR doesn't work on PS4 .
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post Aug 9 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 9 2019, 01:39 PM)
Only if you are planning to get an Xbox one X , VRR doesn't work on PS4 .
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Meaning it doesn't matter if I get oled or qled, gaming performance is still the same?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 9 2019, 01:44 PM)
Meaning it doesn't matter if I get oled or qled, gaming performance is still the same?
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More or less , Samsung TVs usually have exceptionally low input latency , same goes for the newer LG C9 & E9 & W9.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 9 2019, 01:49 PM)
More or less , Samsung TVs usually have  exceptionally low input latency , same goes for the newer LG C9 & E9 & W9.
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Guess I have to wait for next year then since I can't afford any of the newer tvs.
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post Aug 23 2019, 12:02 AM

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That's help me to get some really good recommendations for gaming TV
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All experts, any comment about Hisense B7700 TV?

i saw it support local dimming (16 zones); what about wide color gamut?

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post Aug 23 2019, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Aug 23 2019, 02:35 PM)
All experts, any comment about Hisense B7700 TV?

i saw it support local dimming (16 zones); what about wide color gamut?
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Can you point me the article which says it has local dimming ( 16 zones ) ?


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