QUOTE(kkthen @ Jul 10 2018, 03:32 PM)
If midrange TV hdr performance poor. Uhd movie will become too dim or not ?
This will largely depends on if the source supported HDR or not .
UHD movies refer to the resolution of the content , it has nothing to do with HDR . There are 1080p HDR content on as well .
If it is a UHD HDR movie , only by then the brightness of the content will be affected .
HDR movies are normally displayed dimmer , that is because they have a larger headroom to swing around from the brightest white to deepest black .
If the TV has poor HDR performance , the HDR movies will appear dim ( Washed Out ) and unimpressive all the time.
This however does not limit to only mid range models , some of the high end overpriced TV models also suffer from the same issue .
QUOTE(kkthen @ Jul 11 2018, 12:10 AM)
That is mean 2018 year 65inch TV in malaysia market only samsung q9fn & oled can play well uhd hdr movie. Very limited choice.
No of course not, some mid range TV can do decent too . The primary factors of HDR performance of TV are mostly the following :
brightness ratings across different APL
the Local Dimming system
the color performance ( coverage and volume )
native contrast ( black levels performance in particular )
With the technology we have today , as long as it ticks 3 out of the 4 , it should be considered as a good HDR experience.
There are also other factors involved such as the EOTF tracking but those can be subjective .
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 11 2018, 09:13 PM)
QLED with FALD also crush all the blacks. Only can buy oled and microled.
All TVs do tonemappings , to a certain degree . When calibrated correctly , most decent TV do not crush blacks details .
The only QLED that do that is Q9FN , because of the Ultra aggressive FALD it has . This TV can produce a contrast Level of ~ almost 20000 : 1 . That is much more improved than any other existing LED TVs on the market. This doesn't mean the TV sucks , this is still the most impressive LED TV out there , its worth losing some black details for all that extraordinary brightness , color volume and black level .
MicroLED still has a long way to go , the WALL showed off by Samsung was not a practical consumer TV at all. . Unless you want to wait like 9 years for Micro LED to come out , there are better choices around as of this moment.
QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jul 8 2018, 03:37 PM)
Even lower end LED TVs from Sony have already received update for Dolby Vision support. No 7000E though, but some 7500E models are also supported. https://www.sony.com.sg/electronics/support...nloads/00015069
During CES 2017 , Sony had released this statement " ”Selected Sony TVs (ZD9, XE94, XE93 and A1 Series) will support Dolby Vision with the software update to be rolled out in Europe within April, 2018. To enjoy Dolby Vision content, the video streaming app/service must support Dolby Vision ”
On your subsequent message , you mentioned
Dolby Vision support for HDMI* is for the rest of the listed TVs as above as long their media/UHD Blu ray player is DV capable.
Regardless of the external device , if your TV is unable to process Dolby vision ( which consist of Dynamic Meta Data feedings ) when the playback device send these data to your TV , it will not process it as the way it was meant to play . Playing Dolby Vision content require extra CPU power , the lower tiers and mid range TV may not have enough CPU power on top of the tasks they were already assigned to such as motion interpolation and BFI.
The same Dolby Visions firmware update do applies to some of these lower end models , because the firmware bring more improvement than just DV updates . But these firmware will not magically upgrade mid-low range TVs hardware to process DV correctly. Just checked this with a calibrator on an updated x8000e .
If you are still in doubt , do check 7500F
here . Dolby Vision isn't listed as the recognized HDR format , compare to the X1 Extreme models.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 8 2018, 03:14 PM)
Better than none? Better than 7000E/F?
It is better than none . So far even on TVs with crappy local dimming like most Samsung mid range TV has , I tend to notice significant improvement , especially playing darker movies with tiny highlights .
Hisense dimming system is a little slow at catching up , but I personally have not tested this TV before , not enough at least . So I will leave the opinions to others who have.
QUOTE(anxious @ Jul 8 2018, 02:13 PM)
Im no tech expert but I am very happy with the Sony 65inch 8500e TV I got for RM6099 from Harvey Norman last month. I also got 5 years warranty included.
Many of you have been very helpful. Thks
Lowyat is a good forum to share such information.
That's what I have been talking about for a while , respect & enjoy the technology .
You have done your research , you got your eyes locked on something , you know what you are getting. By all means just enjoy what you have bought , who cares what other feature it lacks , most important thing is you are happy with your purchase.
When people like me criticize a TV , it doesn't mean you shouldn't get it . I just want you to be aware of what you are buying , it's not like I make any profit if you end up purchasing a certain brand or models .This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 30 2018, 06:53 AM