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pcteck19
post Aug 23 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 23 2019, 02:43 PM)
Can you point me the article which says it has local dimming ( 16 zones ) ?
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From the official home page, and it support Dolby Vision HDR, that surprise me.
https://www.hisense.com.my/product/b7700/

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post Aug 23 2019, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Aug 23 2019, 02:50 PM)
From the official home page, and it support Dolby Vision HDR, that surprise me.
https://www.hisense.com.my/product/b7700/

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Can you find the brightness value ( peak or nominal ) of the TV in terms of nits ?
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post Aug 23 2019, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 23 2019, 02:54 PM)
Can you find the brightness value ( peak or nominal ) of the TV in terms of nits ?
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no, didn't mention through the official spec
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post Aug 23 2019, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Aug 23 2019, 03:05 PM)
no, didn't mention through the official spec
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But that's one of the most important information. Dolby vision, HDR and even dimming zones are all useless unless we get to know what is the nominal/maximum brightness.
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post Aug 23 2019, 07:05 PM

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B7700 is similar to U7B (replacement of U7A) except the OS. I would say b7700's brightness will be more or less the same as both U7A & U7B. Only 8 series model and higher can provide higher nits, which cannot be found in Malaysian market. Hehe.
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 23 2019, 07:05 PM)
B7700 is similar to U7B (replacement of U7A) except the OS. I would say b7700's brightness will be more or less the same as both U7A & U7B. Only 8 series model and higher can provide higher nits, which cannot be found in Malaysian market. Hehe.
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The 65inch B7700 is selling about 4k. Let say the 65 inch B8000 is selling at > RM 4800, would you buy it ?
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post Aug 24 2019, 03:01 PM

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Considering between lg c8/c9 or philips 804.

Is there alot of dolby vision content out there?
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post Aug 24 2019, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 24 2019, 03:01 PM)
Considering between lg c8/c9 or philips 804.

Is there alot of dolby vision content out there?
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There are thousands upon thousands of hours of TV shows ( including all of the Netflix Marvel TV shows ) mastered in Dolby Vision exclusively on both Amazon and Netflix .
A large majority of the recently released and upcoming movies also have Dolby Vision layer of meta data in it .



Any show that are available in HDR 10 , are almost confirmed to have Dolby Vision on Netflix as well. If we go by the general standard , that is quite an amount of it . Especially given the fact that Netflix is still providing the most commonly available HDR shows .


So don't let some of the fools around these corners , who probably have never seen Dolby Vision , hogging onto their fake HDR TV and tell you otherwise.


Dolby requires TV brands to "surrender" their TV specification as it requires a special chip to be installed in order for DV to function properly.
They are also the most advanced form of HDR on the market with supports of 12 bit colors and brightness up to 10000 nits .

Dolby Vision on each TV models are implemented specifically for that model . It is suppose to bring out the best performance from each TV , by utilizing the most optimized contrast and colors out from the TV.
Some would argue DV is more important to the mid range and low specs HDR TV as Dolby can tailor itself to fit into the capability of the screen .

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post Aug 24 2019, 03:55 PM

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Oled tv, you will never regret
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post Aug 24 2019, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 24 2019, 03:54 PM)
There are thousands upon thousands of hours of TV shows ( including all of the Netflix Marvel TV shows ) mastered in Dolby Vision exclusively on both Amazon and Netflix .
A large majority of the recently released and upcoming movies also have Dolby Vision layer of meta data in it .
Any show that are available in HDR 10 , are almost confirmed to have Dolby Vision on Netflix as well. If we go by the general standard ,  that is quite an amount of it . Especially given the fact that Netflix is still providing the most commonly available HDR shows .
So don't let some of the fools around these corners , who probably have never seen Dolby Vision ,  hogging onto their fake HDR TV and tell you otherwise.
Dolby requires TV brands to "surrender" their TV specification as it requires a special chip to be installed in order for DV to function properly.
They are also the most advanced form of HDR on the market with supports of 12 bit colors and brightness up to 10000 nits .

Dolby Vision on each TV models are implemented specifically for that model . It is suppose to bring out the best performance from each TV , by utilizing the most optimized contrast and colors out from the TV.
Some would argue DV is more important to the mid range and low specs HDR TV as Dolby can tailor itself to fit into the capability of the screen .
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Noted thks. Aware on visions tech... seems vision has more content than hdr10+.

Im wondering if netflix on lg c8 can pass both vision and atmos down to my samsung n950 soundbar...

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post Aug 25 2019, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 24 2019, 10:12 AM)
The 65inch B7700 is selling about 4k. Let say the 65 inch B8000 is selling at > RM 4800, would you buy it ?
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No. Because I do not want another VA panel for the living room as most people in the house watch the tv between 25 to 45deg viewing angle.... and it is too big for my bedroom.
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post Aug 25 2019, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 25 2019, 09:37 AM)
No. Because I do not want another VA panel for the living room as most people in the house watch the tv between 25 to 45deg viewing angle.... and it is too big for my bedroom.
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Ok wrong question asked.

The question is more that if you have a need for 65 inch tv and would you choose that B8000 for that amount of money ( -rm5k ) in comparison with other models.
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post Aug 26 2019, 11:20 AM

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Want to get new tv...

Torn between 2 choices.. which do u guys think is better future proofing

Lg c9
- has dolby vision but no hdr10+ support
- has hdmi 2.1 and eArc

Philips 904
- support both vision and hdr10+
- no hdmi 2.1
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post Aug 26 2019, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 26 2019, 11:20 AM)
Want to get new tv...

Torn between 2 choices.. which do u guys think is better future proofing

Lg c9
- has dolby vision but no hdr10+  support
- has hdmi 2.1 and eArc

Philips 904
- support both vision and hdr10+
- no hdmi 2.1
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c9
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post Aug 26 2019, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 26 2019, 11:20 AM)
Want to get new tv...

Torn between 2 choices.. which do u guys think is better future proofing

Lg c9
- has dolby vision but no hdr10+  support
- has hdmi 2.1 and eArc

Philips 904
- support both vision and hdr10+
- no hdmi 2.1
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HDR10+ is literally nothing more than a gimmick , there is no point to be obsessed over it given how little HDR10+ content there are .

The only reason it exists is because Samsung was hesitated to pay for Dolby's royalty fees , along with Panasonic ( which has now bailed the ship and adopted Dolby Vision as well ).
Sony and LG OLEDs have the function of Dynamic Tone Mapping built into the TV , both of them would argue they provide similar effects as HDR10+.


If we remove this advantage the choice should be pretty obvious.

This post has been edited by Convael: Aug 26 2019, 01:20 PM
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post Aug 26 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 23 2019, 03:09 PM)
But that's one of the most important information. Dolby vision, HDR and even dimming zones are all useless unless we get to know what is the nominal/maximum brightness.
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The reply from hisense is 440nits
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post Aug 26 2019, 02:15 PM

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This post has been edited by puchong@residenz: Aug 26 2019, 02:17 PM
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post Aug 26 2019, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Aug 26 2019, 11:28 AM)
c9
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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 26 2019, 01:17 PM)
HDR10+ is literally nothing more than a gimmick , there is no point to be obsessed over it given how little HDR10+ content there are .

The only reason it exists is because Samsung was hesitated to pay for Dolby's royalty fees , along with Panasonic ( which has now bailed the ship and adopted Dolby Vision as well ).
Sony and LG OLEDs have the function of Dynamic Tone Mapping built into the TV , both of them would argue they provide similar effects as HDR10+.
If we remove this advantage the choice should be pretty obvious.
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Thks.. i guess if no content then no point.. seems like dolby keeps winning just like atmos vs dts:x.

I think maybe i'll just go c8 instead of c9 too. Btw did u guys get concerned with 24p content stutter on oled?

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 24 2019, 10:12 AM)
The 65inch B7700 is selling about 4k. Let say the 65 inch B8000 is selling at > RM 4800, would you buy it ?
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If the real world picture quality is good and provided there is no more nu8000 to buy, i may consider. Hehe.

Hdr is around 400 nits as tested here: https://www.lcdtvthailand.com/mobile/topic_...?Page=1&id=7599
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post Aug 26 2019, 10:16 PM

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https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Z5HBM

Hello, just curious. This one I saw in lazada, 65in oled, selling at 1.3k, it's a scam right?

I'm not sure of the pricing, just asking atd

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