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 The SSD Thread V6, Solid State Drive, Continued.

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post Jun 20 2018, 11:03 AM

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Anyone tried Kingston A1000 before?
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post Jun 24 2018, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Jun 20 2018, 11:03 AM)
Anyone tried Kingston A1000 before?
Put it this way:
It's the cheapest NVMe SSD in the market. So don't expect the performance & reliability of any Samsung NVMe SSDs
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post Jun 25 2018, 04:34 PM

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if you really wanted a nvme ssd, i suggest to get something that have pci-e 3.0 4x, with dram, have 3d-tlc or mlc nand (currently already at 64-layer), 5-year or more warranty, and with capacity at least 480gb range. usually a good nvme ssd can last for a long long time for normal users. for nand-based ssds, it's always good to plan for free space for over provisioning (10% or more of the total capacity), so that it helps to maintain performance.

the above is what i think more practical if you wanted to have the better user experience in the long run. (as os drive, plus some common applications that you use most frequently)

alternatively, just go for large capacity sata ssds. this is because for normal use, you will not be able to make full use of a nvme ssd actually.
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post Jun 25 2018, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 25 2018, 04:34 PM)
if you really wanted a nvme ssd, i suggest to get something that have pci-e 3.0 4x, with dram, have 3d-tlc or mlc nand (currently already at 64-layer), 5-year or more warranty, and with capacity at least 480gb range. usually a good nvme ssd can last for a long long time for normal users. for nand-based ssds, it's always good to plan for free space for over provisioning (10% or more of the total capacity), so that it helps to maintain performance.

the above is what i think more practical if you wanted to have the better user experience in the long run. (as os drive, plus some common applications that you use most frequently)

alternatively, just go for large capacity sata ssds. this is because for normal use, you will not be able to make full use of a nvme ssd actually.
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I think the price for this Adata XPG SX8200 nvme ssd quite reasonable


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post Jun 25 2018, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 25 2018, 04:34 PM)
if you really wanted a nvme ssd, i suggest to get something that have pci-e 3.0 4x, with dram, have 3d-tlc or mlc nand (currently already at 64-layer), 5-year or more warranty, and with capacity at least 480gb range. usually a good nvme ssd can last for a long long time for normal users. for nand-based ssds, it's always good to plan for free space for over provisioning (10% or more of the total capacity), so that it helps to maintain performance.

the above is what i think more practical if you wanted to have the better user experience in the long run. (as os drive, plus some common applications that you use most frequently)

alternatively, just go for large capacity sata ssds. this is because for normal use, you will not be able to make full use of a nvme ssd actually.
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still too expensive.

I think I wait them drop to RM170-250 range first
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QUOTE(llk @ Jun 25 2018, 05:14 PM)
I think the price for this Adata XPG SX8200 nvme ssd quite reasonable
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yes it looks ok based on online reviews, especially the price point with the stated specs and performance.

personally i will stick to samsung and intel mainly. their drives gave me zero issue in the past.


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QUOTE(llk @ Jun 25 2018, 05:14 PM)
I think the price for this Adata XPG SX8200 nvme ssd quite reasonable
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wow that price... tempting me to get another nvme for game storage drool.gif
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post Jun 25 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jun 25 2018, 06:08 PM)
still too expensive.

I think I wait them drop to RM170-250 range first
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oh. you might need to wait for a while for this to happen. it's fine, because this means you don't need it as much as we do smile.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 25 2018, 06:33 PM)
oh. you might need to wait for a while for this to happen. it's fine, because this means you don't need it as much as we do smile.gif
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In fact the price for SSD has dropped quite significantly, but probably our local pricing still bit higher as compared to oversea, the Samsung 970 Pro 512GB is slightly less than RM1,100 selling in Amazon US including shipping to Malaysia, this price we only can get Evo model doh.gif

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-PRO-512G...samsung+970+pro
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post Jun 25 2018, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 25 2018, 06:33 PM)
oh. you might need to wait for a while for this to happen. it's fine, because this means you don't need it as much as we do smile.gif
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it depends on the type of work or computer. I have a 128GB Samsung 840 pro SSD on my laptop. I definately needed that on that laptop for instant on/off. 5400rpm 2.5 laptop hdd is so much slower than desktop 7200rpm ones. So SSD is a must here

but on desktop... yup you are right, here I really dont need that much. I keep my windows startup footprint small, so my PC got decent boot time. It is slower than SSD, but not totally unbearable

recently I bought 2TB toshiba HDD and less than half month I filled up 700GB already haha doh.gif no way SSD can keep me happy.

I think I might end up buying 3TB HDD year end again -.-

but still if 400GB-500GB drop till that price range I will get one.
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post Jun 25 2018, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jun 25 2018, 06:56 PM)
In fact the price for SSD has dropped quite significantly, but probably our local pricing still bit higher as compared to oversea, the Samsung 970 Pro 512GB is slightly less than RM1,100 selling in Amazon US including shipping to Malaysia, this price we only can get Evo model  doh.gif

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-PRO-512G...samsung+970+pro
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yes, for now, if you really needed it, grabbing one from outside is relatively cheaper tbh. hopefully it will be better later.

thanks a lot for sharing the link. it might be very useful for others smile.gif

QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jun 25 2018, 07:13 PM)
it depends on the type of work or computer. I have a 128GB Samsung 840 pro SSD on my laptop. I definately needed that on that laptop for instant on/off. 5400rpm 2.5 laptop hdd is so much slower than desktop 7200rpm ones. So SSD is a must here

but on desktop... yup you are right, here I really dont need that much. I keep my windows startup footprint small, so my PC got decent boot time. It is slower than SSD, but not totally unbearable

recently I bought 2TB toshiba HDD and less than half month I filled up 700GB already haha doh.gif no way SSD can keep me happy.

I think I might end up buying 3TB HDD year end again -.-

but still if 400GB-500GB drop till that price range I will get one.
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correct. for os drive, just keep it small. (240gb to 480gb range) it's more time-saving when you do maintenance like system image creation for backup purposes. my 960 evo 1tb just occupies around 40gb; it's really pointless. (i use additional sata ssds for applications and games)

for data downloads and storage, hdd is acceptable. by average i consume 1x 3tb hdd every 3 months. (work related) cannot afford to use ssd for this yet lol
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Samsung Introduces 8TB SSD for Data Centers in Next-generation ‘NF1’ Form Factor

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-int...nf1-form-factor
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-s...-nf1,37345.html
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62308/samsun...eads/index.html
https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/21/samsung...3d-memory-tech/
http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/sam...r-data-centers/

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-EDITED- Just bought A400 120GB.

Should i clean install OS or just clone?



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QUOTE(syzwn @ Jun 26 2018, 09:19 AM)
-EDITED- Just bought A400 120GB.

Should i clean install OS or just clone?
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clean install.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 26 2018, 10:58 AM)
clean install.
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Noted and thanks alot !
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QUOTE(syzwn @ Jun 26 2018, 01:43 PM)
Noted and thanks alot !
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no problem. a clean install is always the simplest way to get things done, with minimal issues.
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guys, is SSD failure rate that high? if i use SSD for torrent, copying and deleting frequently, will it die within 1 year? i was looking at a sandisk SSD when this problem pops up in my mind... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 27 2018, 10:42 AM)
guys, is SSD failure rate that high? if i use SSD for torrent, copying and deleting frequently, will it die within 1 year? i was looking at a sandisk SSD when this problem pops up in my mind... hmm.gif
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it's actually the opposite. ssd has the lowest failure rates among all common pc components.

the failure rates that you're talking about is because users use the wrong tool for the wrong job, and it's not really about the durability of nand, but other parts in the ssd. frequent copying and deleting files don't kill ssds in general. i do that all the times to my portable ssd storage. (it's a very old 240gb sata3 oem drive; it's with me for 4+ years already, as external storage)

for torrent downloading, use hdd.
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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 27 2018, 10:42 AM)
guys, is SSD failure rate that high? if i use SSD for torrent, copying and deleting frequently, will it die within 1 year? i was looking at a sandisk SSD when this problem pops up in my mind... hmm.gif
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lol torrent, one of the fastest way to kill SSD.

use HDD, buy a RM150 HDD torrent on that.
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Q (PCGamer): "Does M.2 vs. SATA have any impact on overclocking your system?"

A (Der8auer): "Actually we have a lot of trouble using M.2 drives. On Pinnacle Ridge, which is Ryzen 2, it has a negative impact. We saw that if we were running the Geekbench on a very highly overclocked system, and using the M.2 drive, we had a lot of stability issues. The CPU could not handle the M.2 drive. We never found out why, but using a SATA drive the system was a lot more stable. But this only applies to LN2 overclocking. We never saw this on [normal] overclocking."

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