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post Oct 29 2017, 09:10 PM

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hi guys,

im on my way to upgrade my PC to an x299 platform and i've included a samsung 960 evo 250gb nvme ssd in the upgrades list.

what i'd like to know is should i use it as an OS ssd or as a game ssd for overall better performance? currently i have a lite-on mu3 240gb which i store my games, and my pc is usually idle when not in use; i rarely turn it off.

thanks for the advise in advance guys.

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post Nov 28 2017, 02:11 PM

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hi guys,

any recommendation for a ~500gb ssd that will be used to install and store games? preferably cheaper ones and using sata6 port
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post Nov 28 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 28 2017, 04:54 PM)
scout the garage sales section and see if you can get any oem ssds. i found one good stuff but it's 1tb, https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4464131
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that is pretty cheap for a 1TB but it's kinda out of my budget at the moment. I was thinking more like 600 or below, Samsung's 850 Evo 500GB is unfortunately out of the range as well. I noticed that mainstream brand ~500GBs would be around 7xx - 9xx

I'm currently using a Lite-On PH3-CE240 for my games so I guess I'm ok with such quality of a SSD since they didn't give me any problem so far.
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post Dec 4 2017, 09:41 PM

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are there any ~500gb ssd that's around RM500 or RM1 per gb?
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post Dec 5 2017, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 5 2017, 10:47 AM)
check the previous page for sk hynix oem ssd with price tag myr 450

alternatively, please do some leg work for sweet deals like this. there is lazada (might have good discounts for you) and lelong. usually retail price for a typical 500gb range sata ssd is about myr 700+
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wow thanks for the recommendation

yea ik they're about 700+ typically for popular brands, was wondering if there were any less popular brands that sell for cheaper. will check out that sk hynix recommendation tho!
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post Dec 15 2017, 11:11 AM

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liteon LCS-512M6S 512GB
Micron MTFDDAK512MBF 512GB

between the 2 above and corsair force LS 480gb, which one would be a better choice in terms of reliability and performance?
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post Dec 18 2017, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 18 2017, 07:38 PM)
Just bought the EK-M.2 NVMe Heatsink for my Samsung 950 Pro 512GB

Bought from here: https://www.lelong.com.my/ekwb-ek-m-2-nvme-...7-01-Sale-I.htm

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Temperature before installing the heatsink: (after running CrystalDiskMark 64 Bit @ 32GB)
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Temperature after installing the heatsink: (after running CrystalDiskMark 64 Bit @ 32GB)
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nice temps

before this have you been using any cooling for the nvme? or was it all bare naked?
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post Dec 18 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 15 2017, 01:08 PM)
in terms of reliability and performance, i think i will pick micron. i never used this model before. however i think micron/crucial is ok (still running on their old 2x m500 960gb in one of my machines; never had issues)

however if you looked for retail warranty support, corsair force ls. (not related to reliability or performance, just fyi)
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thanks for the input bro

after much consideration i think i'll go ahead and go with a retail SSD mainly for the warranty. but now im in such a dilemma cause i kinda want the 500gb 960 evo but the price is quite high, not to mention im already using a 250gb 960 evo as my boot drive and im not sure if I'd be willing to sacrifice 3 sata ports for 2 nvme SSDs which could get bottlenecked when running simultaneously (though unlikely to run together)

for gaming storage, is an NVMe too overkill at the moment?
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post Dec 19 2017, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 19 2017, 12:24 AM)
Naked bro
About a year ago, I was using the card below because my Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1 doesn't have any built-in M.2 slot eventhough it fully supports NVMe SSDs
But after I switch to Gigabyte X99-Ultra Gaming, I have no use for this card anymore

Although the cooling effect of the card below is way better than the EK-M.2 NVMe Heatsink because it manage to lower the idle temperature to 36°C
Probably because it has a fan which makes it an active cooling instead of passive cooling like the EK-M.2

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Hmm i see. I guess having even a 40mm fan does work wonders. Been thinking lately of getting a 2nd NVMe for my gaming rig but the 2nd slot doesnt have any cooling option atm as I'd have to fabricate a holder for a 40mm fan.

Surprisingly Asus's ROG heatsink managed to cool down my 960 evo nvme to around 52c during 32gb benchmark via crystaldiskmark
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post Dec 19 2017, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 19 2017, 02:13 AM)
you should just get 960 evo 500gb (or even 1tb) at least in the first place.

for game storage, decent high capacity sata ssds are good enough imo. (1tb or more preferably) using nvme ssd for the same purpose is really an overkill.
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I kinda want my OS to have its own drive and not sharing with many games, besides 1 or 2 main online games. Not to mention I was budget strapped as well when upgrading almost all of my PC components so I couldn't pick the 500GB version (the main reason of all biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 19 2017, 05:40 PM)
Actually, the fan on the add-on card I mentioned earlier is 50MM in size, not 40MM
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Ahh I see, though I doubt that'll make a huge difference like active fan vs passive heatsink comparison you showed earlier biggrin.gif

I've decided to go for the Samsung 850 EVO 500GB for my games since it comes with a 5 year warranty which is great peace of mind in my case.

Have you guys fully moved to SSD as in all your videos/music/downloads etc are all in SSDs now rather than HDD?
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post Dec 19 2017, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 19 2017, 07:24 PM)
yeah it's better to have a dedicated os drive + data drives, separating data from system. it's always easier to manage a system this way.

well, budget constraint is a good thing you know smile.gif even if i always have extras to get things that i want in one-go, i try stick to my budget and plan to control my spending as much as i can. (i'm eyeing that intel optane 900p 480gb for quite some time now lol)

for game storage, i really suggest you go for larger capacity drives than 500gb. (games these days are huge. about budget constraint, just save more hehe because when the capacity doubles, the price is usually relatively cheaper) all these years i have bought quite a number of different drives for tests and work. they are really long lasting, as long as you optimize, use and maintain them properly.

i have a number of full-ssd setups. i don't use them for downloads (already have dedicated machines for downloads only). unless i have a gigabit internet, for now hdd is good enough for download purposes.
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I was thinking of a 1TB as well but the retail prices on them are kinda high (like double of 500GB so no discounts there), so for the time being I'll equip myself with a 500GB game storage (already have 240GB and I'm feeling the storage constrains a little). I know OEM SSDs are kinda cheap and for what I'm paying on retail I could get an OEM one for cheaper or even double the capacity, but for the time being I'll stick to retail warranty options.

I might get those OEM SSDs though once I roll out my "No HDD in rig" plan biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2018, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 25 2018, 06:27 PM)
eh.. i tot it suppose to be as below
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it's because of the samsung magician software using your RAM as cache when rapid mode is turned on
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post Jan 28 2018, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 28 2018, 04:45 PM)
speaking of boot times, i have a friend with NVMe Sammy 960 pro installed

he used to enjoy blazing fast booting times after shutdowns. but recently he told me his bootups can last as long as 5mins shocking.gif

tested at his place yty, even after setting his BIOS to Ultra Fast, we managed to whittle down to about 1 1/2 mins.

symptoms begin after he pressed start on casing, then it takes pretty damn long for even to POST, before taking awhile for system to go to Windows splash and just loading longer with windows loading circle. once thats all done tho and logged in, everything is just as snappy as ever

what could be problem? hmm.gif
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have you checked if his SSD is full or has high TBW just in case? In my experience, the culprit for extremely slow POST times were always due to HDD, or I've just finished flashing a new BIOS revision and it takes minutes to boot for the first few times, likely due to my OC settings and then it's quick as ever after that.
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post Feb 23 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Feb 23 2018, 11:10 AM)
Sup fellas. Been a while since i last drop by here. laugh.gif rclxm9.gif Still awaiting 1TB ssd cheaper further. laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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at least SSD prices have remained stagnant or even dropping, unlike other parts biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2018, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Mar 25 2018, 07:46 PM)
ok thanks guys thumbup.gif
I'll shall get the samsung 850 evo biggrin.gif
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you could consider 860 evo while you're at it. it's supposedly the successor of the 850 evo
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post Mar 26 2018, 05:32 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 26 2018, 02:58 AM)
860evo is like 23% more expensive than 850evo. yes internally 860evo has new 3d-nand, there is no significant performance gain.
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ehhh didnt realize the price difference was that much shocking.gif
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post Jun 25 2018, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jun 25 2018, 05:14 PM)
I think the price for this Adata XPG SX8200 nvme ssd quite reasonable
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wow that price... tempting me to get another nvme for game storage drool.gif
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post Jul 17 2018, 02:26 PM

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guys, I started using this nvme on november 2017 and to date i have like 4TBW, so it's like im writing 500gb per month on my ssd, is this actually normal for an OS drive or am I using more than usual?

not that it really matters since 150tbw means i'd have to keep this up for 25 years though, just curious since I didn't think i'd be doing that much writes.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 23 2018, 11:20 AM)
Hahahaha finally my hard disk is dead

Got excuse 2 change 1TB SSD

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iinm i saw one kingston uv400 960gb for rm788 on shopee, if for storage i think it's more than enough biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Jul 30 2018, 03:31 PM)
Hi guys,

Advice needed. I'm planning to make the leap to SSD from my 3.5 HDD. Currently have a 2015 z97 board with no M.2 slot.

Planning to buy Zotac's Sonix PCIe 480gb SSD as I have an extra PCIe x4 slot and it can be transferred to future builds. Thoughts??? It is RM 849 now, is the pricing decent?

Thanks.
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depending on what your application is, it could be overkill and IMO not worth the cost of x4 slot. IINM you could also use something like the asus hyper m.2 card and put in your nvme ssd of choice. on some cards you could even do a raid config with multiple drives.

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