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 The SSD Thread V6, Solid State Drive, Continued.

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post Nov 30 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Nov 30 2020, 10:14 AM)
I think heatsinks will be more necessary for pcie 4.0 ones as they run hotter. pcie 3.0 ones should do fine right?
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post Nov 30 2020, 01:42 PM

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cold data gate exploded in china for western digital drives

files not accessed for 1 year+ can only be read at 10-100mbps

now see will it be evolved into a worldwide one or not, then WD and other brands will start fixing this

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post Dec 1 2020, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ssxxcool @ Nov 27 2020, 11:19 AM)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07M64QXM...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

wd sn750 black, no heatsink for RM569 (RM481.99+RM8x priority shipping)

i cepat2 snag this one. better value than sata by 10000xxxxx
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I just bought the 500gb version for S$84 w/ prime shipping.
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post Dec 2 2020, 05:21 AM

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Just purchase ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 SATA.
Even though Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 SATA performance still faster than it, but consider the price of ADATA is half of Samsung.

I think it is worth to get ADATA. smile.gif

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andrekua2
post Dec 3 2020, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Nov 2 2020, 12:10 PM)
Evo is more expensive by rm100 for 500gb
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You should buy during 1111.

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Bought a couple ssd during last few weeks.

500gb evo 860 RM237
250gb evo 860 RM 142
240gb A400 for office slow pc

I used to run a 120gb Transcend ssd370 which also had dram but somehow the Evo860 is just that much faster. Can feel it's zippyness. I always thought Samsung SSD is over rated... Btw, it's an old i5 3470 pc... No nvme.
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post Dec 4 2020, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 3 2020, 10:18 PM)
You should buy during 1111.

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Bought a couple ssd during last few weeks.

500gb evo 860 RM237
250gb evo 860 RM 142
240gb A400 for office slow pc

I used to run a 120gb Transcend ssd370 which also had dram but somehow the Evo860 is just that much faster. Can feel it's zippyness. I always thought Samsung SSD is over rated... Btw, it's an old i5 3470 pc... No nvme.
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Bro, how did u get it so cheap? Black magic?
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post Dec 4 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Dec 4 2020, 03:41 PM)
Bro, how did u get it so cheap? Black magic?
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11.11 last 2hours got 50off250.
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 4 2020, 03:56 PM)
11.11 last 2hours got 50off250.
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Bought on lazada or shopee?
Good catch btw 👍
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:28 PM

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want to buy my 1st SSD, and I have 2 options/plan.

Option 1:
Straight away buy SATA SSD (due to my mobo doesn't have m.2 slot)

Option 2:
Buy M.2 to sata enclosure + M.2 SSD

Which option is more advisable?
mbr
post Dec 4 2020, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 3 2020, 10:18 PM)
You should buy during 1111.

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Bought a couple ssd during last few weeks.

500gb evo 860 RM237
250gb evo 860 RM 142
240gb A400 for office slow pc

I used to run a 120gb Transcend ssd370 which also had dram but somehow the Evo860 is just that much faster. Can feel it's zippyness. I always thought Samsung SSD is over rated... Btw, it's an old i5 3470 pc... No nvme.
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It's not over rated biggrin.gif

Congrats on good deal! If you want something faster then PCIE SSDs
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(lansi_raju @ Dec 4 2020, 04:28 PM)
want to buy my 1st SSD, and I have 2 options/plan.

Option 1:
Straight away buy SATA SSD (due to my mobo doesn't have m.2 slot)

Option 2:
Buy M.2 to sata enclosure + M.2 SSD

Which option is more advisable?
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Option 1... Option 2 is still bottlenecked by your SATA transfer speeds and you are likely not getting your money's worth from your M.2 SSD.

Option 3: try PCIE SSDs?
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Dec 4 2020, 04:33 PM)
Option 1... Option 2 is still bottlenecked by your SATA transfer speeds and you are likely not getting your money's worth from your M.2 SSD.

Option 3: try PCIE SSDs?
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Option 3 is not possible as my mobo is m-itx type, so only have 1 PCIE which is used for gfx card. If have extra PCI-E, no need ask here ady.. LOL

reason for option 2 is for short term usage/work around, meaning that i will upgrade by mobo (has m2 slot) in future, so no need to spend for another M2...
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post Dec 4 2020, 05:07 PM

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I say go option 2 if you plan to upgrade in future.. but it will cost more ..

If you don't plan to upgrade soon go option 1
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post Dec 5 2020, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 3 2020, 10:18 PM)
You should buy during 1111.

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Bought a couple ssd during last few weeks.

500gb evo 860 RM237
250gb evo 860 RM 142
240gb A400 for office slow pc

I used to run a 120gb Transcend ssd370 which also had dram but somehow the Evo860 is just that much faster. Can feel it's zippyness. I always thought Samsung SSD is over rated... Btw, it's an old i5 3470 pc... No nvme.
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HOw you managed to pay only rm237 when the price is rm292?
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post Dec 5 2020, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Dec 5 2020, 12:24 AM)
HOw you managed to pay only rm237 when the price is rm292?
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Well, lazada was kind enough to release 50 off 250 voucher in the final hours of 11.11 plus some other free shipping and small amount voucher from seller I guess.

This is nothing compared to my other steal. Bought 2 Galaxy Tab S6 for less than 3.5k on 11.11
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post Dec 6 2020, 10:21 AM

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https://s.lazada.com.my/s.c1OBS

Samsung Evo 860 500gb 12.12 RM285

Just wait and see if there special voucher...
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I have the olddd Asrock H87 Pro4 that does not come with any m.2 slot but thinking to upgrade my storage to m.2 nvme SSD. So before I take the plunge, anyone here can give some advice?

1. Can this motherboard support the m.2 nvme drive as a boot drive with the BETA Bios 2.40?

Quoted from AsRock technical personnel -

"Dear Luk,
Thanks for posting your query to ASRock forum.
This is technical support from ASRock.
This motherboard does not support M.2 natively.
However, we have added the M.2 support to BETA BIOS 2.40.
So the users are able to use PCIe to M.2 adapter with M.2 on the system.
Please note that BIOS 2.40 is a BETA BIOS, there will be chances that M.2 cannot be detected because of the PCIe to M.2 adapter card.
BIOS 2.40 can be found with the following link:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H87%20Pro4/#BIOS
With thanks,
ASRock TSD "


2. Seeing that in Asrock's official website, the H87 specs as
- 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)
- 3 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slots
- 2 x PCI slots

My graphic card is currently occupying the PCIE 3.0 slot, so if I were to buy a PCIE - M.2 NVME adapter, which slot will it be going to? As majority of the adapter list as only support PCI E X16, X8 and X4.

Here are a few adapter that I have shortlisted:
1. https://www.lazada.com.my/ugreen-pcie-to-m2...3778654999.html
2. https://www.lazada.com.my/ampcom-m2-nvme-to...3002540382.html
3. https://shopee.com.my/JEYI-SK9-m.2-Expansio...0200.2347167239

Would any of this work with my mobo?

Any advice is appreciated.

Here is a photo of the motherboard.
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post Dec 6 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(euphoriaa @ Dec 6 2020, 10:53 AM)
I have the olddd Asrock H87 Pro4 that does not come with any m.2 slot but thinking to upgrade my storage to m.2 nvme SSD. So before I take the plunge, anyone here can give some advice?

1. Can this motherboard support the m.2 nvme drive as a boot drive with the BETA Bios 2.40?

Quoted from AsRock technical personnel -

"Dear Luk,
Thanks for posting your query to ASRock forum.
This is technical support from ASRock.
This motherboard does not support M.2 natively.
However, we have added the M.2 support to BETA BIOS 2.40.
So the users are able to use PCIe to M.2 adapter with M.2 on the system.
Please note that BIOS 2.40 is a BETA BIOS, there will be chances that M.2 cannot be detected because of the PCIe to M.2 adapter card.
BIOS 2.40 can be found with the following link:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H87%20Pro4/#BIOS
With thanks,
ASRock TSD "
2. Seeing that in Asrock's official website, the H87 specs as
- 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)
- 3 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slots
- 2 x PCI slots

My graphic card is currently occupying the PCIE 3.0 slot, so if I were to buy a PCIE - M.2 NVME adapter, which slot will it be going to? As majority of the adapter list as only support PCI E X16, X8 and X4.

Here are a few adapter that I have shortlisted:
1. https://www.lazada.com.my/ugreen-pcie-to-m2...3778654999.html
2. https://www.lazada.com.my/ampcom-m2-nvme-to...3002540382.html
3. https://shopee.com.my/JEYI-SK9-m.2-Expansio...0200.2347167239

Would any of this work with my mobo?

Any advice is appreciated.

Here is a photo of the motherboard.
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no u can't…u lack of pcie x4 slot…change mobo is the only solution.

or u could buy sata type of m.2 ssd together with sata m.2 to 2.5" sata adapter and connect to your mobo with sata cable…

if u want higher speed why not buy 2 same ssd and do raid 0 on it.

nvme m.2 isn't for your mobo because your gpu already occupied the x16 slot

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Dec 6 2020, 02:32 PM
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post Dec 6 2020, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(euphoriaa @ Dec 6 2020, 10:53 AM)
I have the olddd Asrock H87 Pro4 that does not come with any m.2 slot but thinking to upgrade my storage to m.2 nvme SSD. So before I take the plunge, anyone here can give some advice?

1. Can this motherboard support the m.2 nvme drive as a boot drive with the BETA Bios 2.40?

Quoted from AsRock technical personnel -

"Dear Luk,
Thanks for posting your query to ASRock forum.
This is technical support from ASRock.
This motherboard does not support M.2 natively.
However, we have added the M.2 support to BETA BIOS 2.40.
So the users are able to use PCIe to M.2 adapter with M.2 on the system.
Please note that BIOS 2.40 is a BETA BIOS, there will be chances that M.2 cannot be detected because of the PCIe to M.2 adapter card.
BIOS 2.40 can be found with the following link:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H87%20Pro4/#BIOS
With thanks,
ASRock TSD "
2. Seeing that in Asrock's official website, the H87 specs as
- 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)
- 3 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slots
- 2 x PCI slots

My graphic card is currently occupying the PCIE 3.0 slot, so if I were to buy a PCIE - M.2 NVME adapter, which slot will it be going to? As majority of the adapter list as only support PCI E X16, X8 and X4.

Here are a few adapter that I have shortlisted:
1. https://www.lazada.com.my/ugreen-pcie-to-m2...3778654999.html
2. https://www.lazada.com.my/ampcom-m2-nvme-to...3002540382.html
3. https://shopee.com.my/JEYI-SK9-m.2-Expansio...0200.2347167239

Would any of this work with my mobo?

Any advice is appreciated.

Here is a photo of the motherboard.
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Don't bother with NVMe, just stick with SATA - for real life use there are no discernible difference between NVMe and SATA icon_idea.gif

Also, if you go for the NVMe adapter route, the drive will, ironically, performs slower than a SATA SSD, due to low PCIe bandwidth (PCIe 2.0 x1 only allows a maximum theoretical bandwidth of 500MB/s):
https://www.trentonsystems.com/blog/pcie-ge...n3-slots-speeds

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