hmm, I used to see him often when i was still at celeb fitness. big guy.

Yeah man. Pretty big fella, full of enthusiasm and drive.

oh wow, good job guys for achieving that kind of muscle mass
but dun walk near me, i will look like midget beside u guys lol.

btw wont it be hard to maintain that? heard u cant stop once u started or it will be sagging like old lady's breast

I can see you're new here. Well, hang out more, read up posts, lurk, and learn. It comes with time. But be careful, some individuals here liek to post senseless bullshit, but you'll know it cos we start flaming them to stfu.

sagging only happens if

1) you take roids
2) you depend too much on creatine
3) you eat like a pig and stop working out

What has it got to do with creatine?

wat are his numbers that terry gaylot feller?
squats especially

Uhh... why would creatine give you sagging tits?

darkie.....wanna tel me how much terry gaylot benches squats and deads?

btw.....one more thing, alcohol gives u man tits.

Why're you so obsessed with numbers? Lol, he's a bb'er bro, not a PL'er. Lemme ask him.

i wanna noe how much powerlifters can lift more in a smaller physique compared to a bodybuilder....i'm a strong believer of size=/=strength. But how far is the difference....that's what makes me question.

Are you trying to say size=strength or size not= strength?

This post has been edited by musclemass: Apr 25 2007, 10:11 PM

[=/=] means [not equal to] in mathematical equations.

and i think most people here knows that size doesn't equal to strength.

write it programming style != easier

size != strength. women weightlifting hs a 48kg category and the world record holder can snatch twice her weight

You can't say that. Too many factors and variables. Joint strength, etc. Those who train for hypertrophy don't really attempt lifts which are more than 90% of their 1 RM max.

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Added on April 25, 2007, 10:38 pmNo doubt Oly lifters are strong but they are no way as strong as a powerlifter. An Oly movement is more skill than strength. Liek in a vid i posted, a small 15 year old Chinese boy could smatch 3 big plates a side.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 25 2007, 10:38 PM

Agreed. Although not of significant sized to be labelled big but my lifts are certainly relatively small to my weight!

well in all fairness to joey kun i think he's trying to gather the fact that creatine does give you a bit of bloat that takes a really long time to get rid of.

And yea i've seen that guy around man.He's always wearing his trendy nike zip up shirts.Nice guy.

That's because your training is hypertrophy oriented, the neural efficiency is different because you train for high volume. Same as a hardcore powerlifter would not be able to do the amount of volume you can do.

hahaha...dont man..im not that big or a good bodybuilder..im still learning and still trying to get the ideal size or at least a decent size...but at the moment im habing problem bulking up...gotta eat more i guess..

i decided to compete just to learn and see how well i stand..thats all...dont be suprise that end up not competing at all..cause at the rate im going...my arms are not catching up fast enough as my body...having to much trouble packing mass on my arms..some tips would be nice from u guys..

Lately I have started twice a week arm routine. Works fine for me. 1 heavy volume on arm day itself (D2) and 1 lighter volume on shoulder day (D4) but equally heavy. Triceps getting some shape relative to previously.