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Sugar Gliders V2 is still here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/321753

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Introduction

Sugar gliders are little marsupials that have been taken as exotic pets in many countries. These creatures are different from normal pet rodents like hamsters, mice and rats. They have character, mood swings, emotional bonds and the sweetest nature for a pet that comes in such a small package. Commonly mistaken as flying squirrels, Sugar gliders can be both easy and hard to take care. Their general care is much more complicated than pet rodents and they require alot of affection and attention from its owners. Look at it this way, gliders are like 3 year old kids.... they act cute and can annoy us sometimes while at the same time needs our total attention and bond.

Sugar gliders are tiny gliding opossums from Indonesia, New Guinea, New Zealand and Australia. Wild sugar gliders live in colonies of 6 to 15 animals in tree hollows or other nests made of vegetation. They are nocturnal so will mainly spend most of their day time asleep, only waking up at early dawn and late at night to forage for food.

An adult sugar glider is about the size of a flying squirrel, approximately 5 to 7 inches long from tip of nose to base of tail. Adults in proper body condition weigh between 3 and 4 ounces. The tail is fluffy, often curls on the end and usually is longer than the body length.

A young sugar glider is silver-gray with a black stripe that starts just above the nose leather and extends over the forehead, down the neck and back and joins the black tail. A dark stripe also runs from the outside corner of the eye to the ear. Captive-raised sugar gliders remain this color throughout their lives. Wild sugar gliders are born this color but usually become stained cocoa brown from the vegetation and tree sap in their nests. Their new coats will come in silver-gray after shedding the old coat.

The sugar glider's belly is a soft white, meeting the gray exactly at the outside edge of the fully furred gliding membranes. This gives a unique scalloped effect when they are relaxed. The sugar glider has four fingers and an opposable thumb on its hands and feet. The thumbs on the rear feet are without claws. Toes and fingers have small pads that help the animal grasp food and branches. Each toe and finger ends in a sharp claw that can hook like Velcro to nonslick surfaces.

Sugar Gliders as Pets

Sugar gliders are, without a doubt, the true pocket pet. A tame sugar glider is delighted to be in physical contact with its owner's body. It will sit on your shoulder, ride in your hair or nap in your shirt pocket. It is an indescribably delicious sensation to feel this warm, living creature lightly move in your pocket as you surf the net, wash the dishes or fix the car.

You will fall in love with the sugar glider's attitude. This animal is not a pushover and cannot be trained to do anything with negative reinforcement. Isn't a shame that all pets do not have the sugar glider's degree of self confidence? Treated with kindness and love, your sugar glider will choose you as the most safe and desirable tree in the forest and treat you as an equal, somewhat larger, sugar glider.

You will love the sugar glider because it is such a unique adaptation of nature. A huge portion of its existence in the wild is spent in trees. Because of this habitat, the sugar glider developed the gliding membrane that allows it to travel from tree to tree without ever touching the ground in its entire life. Likewise, a sugar glider that is bonded to you will glide back to you, its one true and safe haven if placed on a stranger's shoulder or on top of your bookcase.

Properly fed and exercised, sugar gliders can live between 10 and 15 years in captivity. If you're looking for a charming, interesting pet, look no further than the sugar glider.

Housing

Adult gliders can tolerate a temperature range of 18°-31°C. At the low end of this range they definitely need warm bedding and a small enclosed space where they can cuddle to keep warm. You can use bird houses, coconut shells or any other thing that's suitable for the gliders to sleep in. It is better to use hiding places made of absorbant material like wood, fabric, etc. Absorbant materials keep humidity from building up inside, and also "breathe" so that moisture and smells don't build up. If you use materials such as plastic or glazed ceramic, your gliders will eventually take on a brownish tinge as their fur is stained by the trapped moisture, and they probably won't smell as nice as they should.

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The cage should be at least 20" x 20" x 36".

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Natural branches or rope perches for climbing are good additions to your cage, but make sure any branches you use are free of pesticides and are not from a plant that could be toxic. Fruit tree branches are good. If you can find the large size exercise wheel made for guinea pigs, your gliders might learn to use it for exercise, but be sure not to get the smaller hamster size, as gliders can get their long tails caught in those, causing some serious injuries.

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Other decorations and toys that you can include for your gliders are bird swings, ladders, fake plants, vines and many others as long as they cannot harm your gliders.

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Food dishes and water bottles made for birds can be used for gliders.

You can use woodshavings (NO CEDAR OR PINE!), newspaper, cloth and corn cob as the substrate at the bottom of the cage.


Bonding and Socializing

The first day in a new home for your glider will be quite scary. Once you've brought home your glider, leave it in its cage for a day so that it can get familiar with his new home. Playing with the new glider immediately will cause stress so it's best to leave the glider alone for awhile. Keep the cage in a dark and quiet place. You can even place a cloth or a t-shirt over the cage so that the glider will feel more secure.

I personally find that the best way to bond with your glider is to keep it close to your body. During the day, keep them in your shirt pocket or in a pouch that you can hang from your neck. The glider will get accustomed to your smell. The breathing and warmth is also comforting to them. Bonding with a glider doesn't mean playing with the glider all the time. Gliders can get stressed when overplayed with. In the late evening or early morning (gliders are nocturnal meaning that they are active during the night), spend some time to socialise with your glider by letting it explore your body, hang it upside down and hand feed it.

Tame and bonded gliders can respond to their name and follow simple commands like "come here" or "let go" or "NO!" when commanded by their owners. They will also be very clingy and loyal towards their owners.

There are 2 types of gliders in the market. Baby gliders and adult gliders. Many people are excited over the cheaper prices of adult gliders but they do not realise that most of the adult gliders sold are wild gliders that has not been tamed from young and can be very very difficult to tame. Instead of a pocket pet that snuggles up to you, you'll get a scratchy, crabby and bitey glider. When you're considering sugar gliders as pets, make sure that they are either tamed or babies. Babies bond much better with their owners and they are much easier to tame. Even if they do bite and scratch at first, it won't be painful.

It easy to carry gliders around even when you go out to public places. They will snuggle in their pouches or shirt pockets. Use pouches that are made out of breatheable fabric.

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Must Sugar Gliders be Kept in a Pair?

There are many cases against keeping sugar gliders along due to their nature in living in a colony of gliders. Keeping gliders in at least a pair is recommended because many people cannot give half of their time to their gliders.

Gliders can die from loneliness so there is no way to keep a glider alone locked up in the cage for most of its life.

Gliders can certainly be kept alone if the owner is able to spend tons of time with the glider (we're talking about at least 12 hours). This is easier than it's been made out to be. Gliders kept singly will only require 1 hour of play-time but snuggling up to their owner, seeing them every hour or two, receiving strokes murmurs from their owners is what keeps the glider from being lonely. Being pocket pets, gliders can be brought to almost everywhere so they're easy enough to keep by your side for 12 hours or more.

Glider Scent

Male sugar gliders have a scent gland in the middle of the top of their head, which causes the typical bald spot in the center of the wide part of the black stripe there. Another gland is located in the middle of their chest. A third gland, an anal one, is shared by males and females alike. The females also have a scent gland in their pouch.

The male's forehead and chest glands are used in marking his territory and his mates with his scent. Gliders produce at least three distinct odors. One is a sweet, flowery smell; another I don't know how to describe, but it is not really offensive. It can get relatively strong at times, when they are breeding, but after a few days it dies away again. The third is a pungent smell that is produced by the anal gland when a glider is afraid.

Gliders use urine to mark their territory, so you will need to clean their cages and furnishings periodically. Otherwise though, they are very clean little animals

Glider Nutrition

In the wild Glider diet consists of insect and plant exudates such as nectar, pollen, tree sap, manna, honeydew and in some species fruit and seeds. Protein is supplied through the consumption of insects, moths, beetles, pollen and occasional small vertebrates. It is very difficult to duplicate this exact diet because the exact plants are not commonly availble in stores. However, there have been diets that have been used for several years that seam to provide all the nutritional value required for healthy gliders.

Gliders take variety food. The ideal diet for them would be a glider mix food (with various glider-safe ingredients), fruits/vegetables and pesticide free insects.

Many gliders in captivity suffer from malnutrition because there are not many staple food that are well-balanced in the market and many keepers are misinformed on what to feed gliders.

Best nutrition and most widely accepted foods


apple (and apple juice), banana, blueberry, cantaloupe, carrot, cherry, chicken (boiled without skin), coconut, cucumber, eggs (hard boiled or scrambled no added butter or oil), fig, grape, honey, honeydew, insects (farm raised to be used as food such as crickets and meal worms), kiwi, mandarins, mango, melon, papaya, Peach, pear, pineapple, plum, prune, raisin, raspberry, squash, strawberry, sweet potato (not cooked), wheat Germ

Good Foods but should not be used every day for long periods

beans, beets, broccoli, cauliflower, corn, cottage cheese, grapefruit, greens (mustard, kale, collard, celery, stalks, turnip), kale, nectar, oranges, parsley, peas, spinach, turnips, yogurt


Foods to avoid

caffeine (coffee, tea, soda, chocolate etc..), canned foods fruit or meat (most contain added salt and sugar), canned fruit, cheese May cause intestinal stoppage or "binding" leading to constipation, chives, chocolate It causes a toxic chemical reaction in most animals, fat (any food with high or added fat), Fire Fly (lightning bugs) or any other insect that was not farmed raised for food, fried foods, garlic, iceberg lettuce (non nutritional), insects that are wild caught, keels, milk, millet (or other very small seeds), nuts (possible exception of a uncooked, unsalted penult for very rare extra special treats), onions, phosphorus stay away from foods high in phosphorus. use a calcium that does not contain phosphorous., pinkys (although very nutritious we choose not to feed pinkies because of a few items that suggest feeding pinkies may increase the possibility of mothers eating their joeys.), pits (from fruit), processed meat, raw eggs, raw meat (except for live insects), rhubarb, salt (any food with added salt), scallions, sugar (foods with added sugar), sugar (refined sugar, table sugar), tofu / soy products (Even though tofu has been thought of as the perfect protein you may want to avoid this or use it very limited because of several recent articles which suggest "The facts are stated clearly - soy products in the diet of the studied animals is believed to have harmful effects on the body's digestive and reproductive systems."Why take the risk of Tofu when there are many other forms of protein

Reasons

1. Garlic, onions, scallions, chives, leeks, ramsons, (any member of the Allium genus).
These vegetables have been known to cause anemia in many domestic animal species.
Warning: Some baby foods contain onion or garlic powder. To be safe, always throughly scan the ingredients of prepared baby foods before purchase.

2. Millet
This popular item for birds is a definate no-no for Sugar Gliders. These small granules will likely cause intestinal impaction if too many are consumed.

3. Fruit Seeds
The seeds and pits of various fruits are sources of extremely potent toxins. To be safe, throughly check all food dishes before dinner-time to ensure you haven't mistakenly included any seeds, pits, stones, etc.

4. Nuts
With the exception of the occasional Brazil nut, avoid offering nuts. Nuts are high in fat and also oxalic acid, which interferes with calcium absorption. Nuts have also been linked to other health problems in Sugar Gliders.
Any benefits nuts have to offer can be derived from the rest of the diet, provided it is well-balanced.

5. Avocado
Although many Sugar Glider owners offer avocado flesh, this fruit is extremely high in fat and contains toxins known as cardiac glycosides. I recommend never offering this fruit to your gliders.

6. Citrus fruits (oranges, grapefruits, lemons, etc.)
Although offering citrus fruits on occasion will benefit your glider's health, overdoing it will result in diarrhea (which leads to dehydration and a host of other health problems).

7. Sunflower Seeds
Do not offer these seeds in excess. They are loaded with fat and may contribute to intestinal problems.

8. Peas, peanuts, and some plants belonging to the family Cruciferae (Brassicaceae) --- which include broccoli, kale, cauliflower, turnips, mustard, and Brussels sprouts --- have been known to repress the production of thyroid hormone in animals. Do not completely avoid offering these items (although peanuts should be avoided for other reasons as well); just limit your offering of them, and be aware of their potential interactions within the body.

9. Spinach, parsley, rhubarb, beets (and their greens), Swiss chard, mustard, kale, collards, celery stalks, turnip greens, many beans, and plants of the genus Rumex (sorrel, dock) contain oxalic acid, a chemical that binds with calcium and renders it unavailable to the body. (When offering leafy greens, try to stick with Romaine lettuce or other selections not listed above.)

10. Corn
This sweet vegetable is relished by most Sugar Gliders, but do not offer this as a staple, because it is loaded with phosphorous. An excess of this mineral in the diet may compromise proper calcium absorption. A few kernels or a small cob once and a while is fine.

11. Milk Products (yogurt, cottage cheese, etc.)
A Sugar Glider can tolertate lactose in its diet, but some individuals will be less tolerant than others. The keys are moderation and individual attention. Do not feed straight milk or overfeed lactose-rich foods. Observe what each of your gliders eats each night, and take note of how their bodies react to it. Even though it will be difficult to keep track of which gliders are producing which bowel movements, you can figure this out by close observation, or by temporarily separating an individual you suspect to be having a problem for a few hours.

Health Problems

Hind Leg Paralysis - caused by inadequate calcium absorption due to poor diet (low calcium, high phosphate, low Vitamin D) leads the glider's body to produce increased parathyroid hormone, which removes calcium from the bones It is one of the most prevalent dietary problems in gliders and is totally preventable in all cases except where a glider may have a genetic defect making the glider not able to metabolize calcium correctly. You will notice a glider back legs getting week and eventually the glider will be dragging himself by his front legs. This condition can successfully be treated if noticed early and immediately treatment is started. Your vet may want to (and should) rule out possible other causes by x-ray like broken bones.


Dehydration / Diarrhea
- Dehydration is simply a symptom to many other illnesses. A glider can die in as little as 10 hours in a hot environment from dehydration. Diarrhea is another symptom of many other illnesses and is it self a cause of dehydration. By pulling up the skin at the glider's shoulders and observing if the skin stays up or goes down very slowly suggest strongly that the glider is dehydrated. Mild dehydration for a known cause (like empty water bottle) can be treated simply by providing fresh water.

Stress / Isolation / No Socialization - Gliders cannot handle stress very well unless they are well bonded and receive a lot of security and comfort from their owner or cage mate. Environment changes like going to a new home wear there are different sundering, different smells and most likely different food can all cause stress. New people, new cage mates, other animals, children, and different sounds are among just some of the things that can cause stress. While stress may not be the same as a virus it can however cause the gliders immune system to weaken opening up additional possible avenues of getting sick. Further Gliders are very social animals and without other gliders or humans to have a social interaction with they will end up being stressed or depresses. The lack of socialization can actually lead to manifest in physical symptoms and severer depression. Some symptoms of stress are sudden change in attitude or behavior, intestinal problems. Cage circling, biting, loss of hair, self-mutilation, and repeated cage movements over and over again. Although I have never seen it in any of my Gliders, apparently self-mutilation has increased quite a bit and become a big concern among several Glider owners.

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Congratz to new sg thread, version 3.

Again, I shall repeat my earlier statement here before it gets pushed to the depths of PW@Lowyat.

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Oh yea, one more thing about the albino sgs.

Is anyone aware that when sugar gliders first appeared in the pet market, they were going for RM1 - 2k plus?

This is an estimation to how the price for sgs are today.
Since nobody could afford it at that time, supply exceeded demand and the price for sgs dropped considerably. When it dropped to a certain, more affordable price, SGs started to become popular so the demand for it rose.

But how are you going to get profit from an animal that can only breed twice a year? Easy, you just get lots of adult pairs and set up a sg factory.

This is how suppliers are able to meet the demand.

Now the price for sgs is set from 200 to 500 as the most expensive because if you sell too high, there will always be a market spoiler that will sell cheaper than you and everyone will end up buying from him instead of you. Ppl see it as the same product, just at a cheaper cost, without considering the difference between what you feed them, how you treat them etc.

This will probably happen to other colours of sgs if anyone decides to bring it in. A good example to refer to is hedgehogs.

This is why I encourage to buy from hobbyist breeders, not suppliers. Hey, the fact is, you pay for what you get.

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Yeah lor, so fast... Wanted to reply, then aikss, closed smile.gif

SG V3... Cool!

I just ordered some more stuff for Iggy... Sighh, just cant resist tongue.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Mar 28 2007, 05:28 PM)
Yeah lor, so fast... Wanted to reply, then aikss, closed smile.gif

SG V3... Cool!

I just ordered some more stuff for Iggy... Sighh, just cant resist tongue.gif

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I am picking up my baby SG this friday. Will probably need to pick up some baby food......i heard from Reanne that i should look for heinz brand..any idea what is suitable.

Thanks!!!
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Usually most of the fruit flavours are fine.
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thanks......will need to do a bit of shopping tomorrow liao...bigger cage....baby food....crickets and worm for Gollum Ah Pek......can't wait...can't wait....i hope my Gollum Ah Pek won't bully this baby Eowyn... tongue.gif

Anyone got second hand cage 3 tier for sale? or where can i find for a good price...

thanks.

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Well, I'm getting more vines, some leaves, some hanging wooden ladders and hanging feeding cups tongue.gif

Wahh, cheaka, getting new baby ah?? I'm also looking for a female lah, hahaha...

Well, the big cage so far PS the cheapest... Other places either don have or more expensive smile.gif

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wahh congrats, V3 edi.... so fast sweat.gif
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Pickles! Hmm, very brown smile.gif It's a red-brown family!

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Mar 28 2007, 06:28 PM)
I just ordered some more stuff for Iggy... Sighh, just cant resist tongue.gif

i wonder what it is ...

QUOTE(cheaka @ Mar 28 2007, 06:47 PM)
can't wait...can't wait....i hope my Gollum Ah Pek won't bully this baby Eowyn... tongue.gif
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woah ... new glider ahh .. congrat ! hope brother gollum wont blasah baby Eowyn. err how to pronounce Eowyn ?

Fuiyo .. reanne's Pickles very very brown la .. nice coating ..


Added on March 28, 2007, 7:46 pmjust bought mealworm .. how much to give chika a day ?

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 28 2007, 07:40 PM)
i wonder what it is ...
woah ... new glider  ahh .. congrat ! hope brother gollum wont blasah baby Eowyn. err how to pronounce Eowyn ?

Fuiyo .. reanne's Pickles very very brown la .. nice coating ..


Added on March 28, 2007, 7:46 pmjust bought mealworm .. how much to give chika a day ?
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mealworm not more than 8 perdays... mean 3/4 per serve... if u serve 2 times perday laaa....
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8 arr ? that many .. or 6 only lar .. 3 every serve.
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6 ? 8 ? chika just eat 10 of them. and still want more ! then she finish half teaspoon of hun mix .. hohoho ... big appetite.
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6 ? 8 ? chika just eat 10 of them. and still want more ! then she finish half teaspoon of hun mix .. hohoho ... big appetite.
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Mealworms -- 6 would be best if you're giving everyday. Don't give too much as the fatty contents lead to glaucoma or cataracts in suggies. I think there was an article posted in the previous thread. Basically they can eat about 20 if you let 'em but that's where you need to control their intake. Mealworms are just way too yummy.
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naa . not everyday .. maybe every 3 days should be ok ?


Added on March 29, 2007, 2:23 amnote : just moved chika cage to my room. and she been in the same spot since i moved her cage.

Before move to my room... sleeping right after eat some mealworms and mix .
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air-con room no problem right ? how about fan ? i usually put the aircon timer to like 4-5 hours then the fan will start to "on". put it at 4 . super fast woo ..tonight will turn on the a/c all day ..

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how cold?

I put mine 25-26, so no problem, she runs around too.

but her pee I cant control, next morning have to go peespot hunting.

you flash your glider when taking pics? quite risky man, their eyes to big haha~
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25c .... sumtimes i put 19c .. but 25c is cold but kinda nice cold. not ice cold .. hahaha

i have too . the darn camera is bloody stupid. no flash, the picture go all blurry. even with flash, sumtimes blurry. haha .. i got me thinking to . what happend if i use flash when taking her picture. if me, my eyes get out of focus for a moment. so what about them ?

any comment on this ?
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CFP -- yeah better not give everyday. I usually skip a day and then give 6 mealworms. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Mar 28 2007, 06:19 PM)
Well, I'm getting more vines, some leaves, some hanging wooden ladders and hanging feeding cups tongue.gif

Wahh, cheaka, getting new baby ah?? I'm also looking for a female lah, hahaha...

Well, the big cage so far PS the cheapest... Other places either don have or more expensive smile.gif

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okay..tonight have to go get it the cage.....thanks for the details....looking forward for the baby...

Iggy so cute lah.....buat the innocent look...ahahha..


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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 28 2007, 07:40 PM)
woah ... new glider  ahh .. congrat ! hope brother gollum wont blasah baby Eowyn. err how to pronounce Eowyn ?
ya ya...from the same family as yours...so Eowyn is your Chika's little sister....hehehe.....anyway...you pronouce is like "u-win"...ehhehe...



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okay..tonight have to go get it the cage.....thanks for the details....looking forward for the baby...

Iggy so cute lah.....buat the innocent look...ahahha..
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 29 2007, 02:35 AM)
25c .... sumtimes i put 19c .. but 25c is cold but kinda nice cold. not ice cold .. hahaha

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but lately the weather had been hot hot hot.....i hope my gollum can tahan...

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QUOTE(cheaka @ Mar 29 2007, 11:05 AM)
okay..tonight have to go get it the cage.....thanks for the details
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ya ya...from the same family as yours...so Eowyn is your Chika's little sister....hehehe.....anyway...you pronouce is like "u-win"...ehhehe...
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bigger cage ? how much ?

eh really arr ? hohoho . add one to the family. (May) Bengy = chika brother , (Me) Chika = chika laa , (Cheaka) Eowyn = chika little sister. later can have family reunion. icon_rolleyes.gif excited ! rclxm9.gif

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using KP's pouch is great and really keeps them warm....i think at 25c is just perfect...
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yah .. there are more comfortable than my nice warm selimut. tongue.gif . saw on ebay, this nice 10pcs set (all made from fleece, same material with KP's) .price is USD29 and shipping USD18. huhuhu .. let's ask KP to do the same thing. sure many customer.

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Wahahaha... 10pc set wooor...

Nanti lar, slow2... I am in the midst of designing a fleece hammock... If successful, and Iggy likes it, then I can sell lor...

They sell 10pc USD29+shipping USD18=USD47 shocking.gif

I sell USD25 only can??

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 29 2007, 02:03 PM)
bigger cage ? how much ?

eh really arr ? hohoho . add one to the family. (May) Bengy = chika brother , (Me) Chika = chika laa , (Cheaka) Eowyn = chika little sister. later can have family reunion. icon_rolleyes.gif  excited !  rclxm9.gif
not too sure...but i might do DIY cage this time like those reptarium type...ehhe...see how first lah....

yea yea..the next gathering...will see gollum and eowyn can bond or not..then i bring both of them out...ehehhe..

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Wahh, cheaka want to do cage that big arr?? tongue.gif

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Wahh, cheaka want to do cage that big arr?? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Mar 29 2007, 03:59 PM)
Wahahaha... 10pc set wooor...

Nanti lar, slow2... I am in the midst of designing a fleece hammock... If successful, and Iggy likes it, then I can sell lor...I sell USD25 only can??
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not too sure...but i might do DIY cage this time like those reptarium type...ehhe...see how first lah....

yea yea..the next gathering...will see gollum and eowyn can bond or not..then i bring both of them out...ehehhe..
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woah .. damn big la .. wanto build one like that also la .. buy some those PVC connetors and pipe. then use what as the net ? nylon mesh ? where to get ? net like those nyamuk one can ar ? then it would be super cheap rather buying those flextarium which i almost buy ..

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 29 2007, 03:28 PM)
woah .. damn big la .. wanto build one like that also la .. buy some those PVC connetors and pipe. then use what as the net ? nylon mesh ? where to get ? net like those nyamuk one can ar ? then it would be super cheap rather buying those flextarium which i almost buy ..
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You can get those pvc like mesh at the hardware store, they have it in green, blue and black color. Tho I think the gap size is different... If you look closely at the pix that I post, the one with the destroyed leaves, you can see the black pvc mesh I'm talking about smile.gif I added it to the wire cage for Iggy to grip and jump around easier... Kesian he always slip while holding the vertical cage bars tongue.gif

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just wondering...is the reptarium setup for sugar glider any good ah?.....

i really want to put a big trunk in there...so that i can make it more natural...heheh..with leaves and stuff..
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Reptarium... it is called Flexarium in Malaysia by ExoTerra... anyway, if you got the space and money, get the big one... is gonna be big and spacious. Condition, your glider is not a cloth chewer... My friend bought for her glider Bobo, he loves the flexarium alot.
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Reptarium... it is called Flexarium in Malaysia by ExoTerra... anyway, if you got the space and money, get the big one... is gonna be big and spacious. Condition, your glider is not a cloth chewer... My friend bought for her glider Bobo, he loves the flexarium alot.
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Hmm... the smallest cost like RM80+... big one... maybe RM300
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Hmm... the smallest cost like RM80+... big one... maybe RM300
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that's quiet okay comparing to the big cage selling at RM210 at pet safari.....RM300 for the big one ya... i go check it out.....anyone can give good offer ah?
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Mar 29 2007, 05:00 PM)
You can get those pvc like mesh at the hardware store, they have it in green, blue and black color. Tho I think the gap size is different... If you look closely at the pix that I post, the one with the destroyed leaves, you can see the black pvc mesh I'm talking about smile.gif I added it to the wire cage for Iggy to grip and jump around easier... Kesian he always slip while holding the vertical cage bars tongue.gif

hohoho icon_idea.gif suddenly a huge white crystal clear bulb lights up right above my head ! .... DIY Flexarium here i come !


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Condition, your glider is not a cloth chewer... My friend bought for her glider Bobo, he loves the flexarium alot.
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jeng jeng jeng ! ... minor set-back ... those pvc mesh KP talking about has chemical or not ar ? if chika is a chewer, then ? die larr .. afraid, she chew herself out to freedom
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QUOTE(cheaka @ Mar 29 2007, 04:10 PM)
that's quiet okay comparing to the big cage selling at RM210 at pet safari.....RM300 for the big one ya... i go check it out.....anyone can give good offer ah?
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I said maybe rm300... you go garage sales..... the guy that is selling lots of pet products may have. Rm210? How big is that?
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Sorry, my server gila just now, so terdouble post...

Anyway, here's the price list and size of Flexarium from the GS...

22 gallon(14.5"x14.5"x25") - RM87.70
38 gallon(16.5"x16.5"x30") - RM109.40
65 gallon(30"x16.5"x30") - RM153.60
100 gallon(30"x16.5"x48") - RM204.30
175 gallon(30"x30"x48") - RM222.00
260 gallon(30"x30"x72") - RM283.10

All these, got 10% off...

Thinking of getting either a Flexarium or Explorarium for travelling... Which one shud be better huhh hun?

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flexarium ... bigger .. that explorarium small only ..
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 29 2007, 06:34 PM)
flexarium ... bigger .. that explorarium small only ..
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But explorarium so easy to bring around, like sunshade like that only, just pop it up, wah lah... Plus it comes with the tray...

Flexarium have to get the tray seperately sad.gif

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alah .. like this lah .. buy both .. hahaha one for travel on at home
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alah .. like this lah .. buy both ..  hahaha one for travel on at home
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arghh these few days kinda busy with my assignments. dun have enough time to play with chiwek n oshine cry.gif hope they aren't streesed. sad.gif

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sorry to hear that .. hope they are okay .. after the assignment, play extra time with them yaaa

my glider doing stunt just now . hanging up side down. haha first time see she does that.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 29 2007, 04:13 PM)
I said maybe rm300... you go garage sales..... the guy that is selling lots of pet products may have. Rm210? How big is that?
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thanks.....i saw got promotion...RM238 for the 200galoon one...very tempting to get it......but my hubby said...better get cage cage type......so we end up getting a big cage for only RM65...hehhehe...double the size we have now for Gollum...bet Gollum will be very happy once we have it all setup.....


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But explorarium so easy to bring around, like sunshade like that only, just pop it up, wah lah... Plus it comes with the tray...
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KP, thanks for the price list....actually i bought those laundry basket that is foldable ones....in ACE hardware selling like RM5 something....all i need is to do a net cover and walah...i have a travelling cage liao..hahha...

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My cleaning lady was vacuming my area...too noisy...see what Gollum was doing...use his hands to close up his ears...


Added on March 30, 2007, 9:56 amNeed to ask you guys..is it normal for SG to sleep more than 12 hours...because lately Gollum had been sleeping like 15 hours ..and very shy and keep hiding in the sleeping pouch....even i offer cricket also don't want to come out.....is he sick ah??

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hahaha.. so cute la gollum.. use his hands to cover his ears.. hehe

my bengy will lick his hands clean if he terkena yoghurt.. hehe

yesterday bengy pee on my hand again..

btw.. are their pee acidic? Cos my bf itches all over after bengy peed on him last time..
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Need to ask you guys..is it normal for SG to sleep more than 12 hours...because lately Gollum had been sleeping like 15 hours ..and very shy and keep hiding in the sleeping pouch....even i offer cricket also don't want to come out.....is he sick ah??
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I think it's quite normal, cuz that's Iggy's sleeping schedule too... I think he's used to sleeping long hours, susah lah nak train him not too... But I can wake him up lah, no problem. Anyway, skejap only lah...

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Wah! Its been a very long time since I last commented on the forum. Spent the last few days reading the comments. Congrat on V3 thumbup.gif Better late than never yeah.

I bring my SGs to work about twice a week now. They are like the office mascots. Everyone comes to look at them and ask loads of questions. some like to disturb and poke them. Argh!!!! I don't like people shaking their cage and poking them. It is so annoying and mean. mad.gif

I like carrying Roscoe when I am at my desk because he will sit still and curl into a big ball. See SG addict.... miss them when they are not here.
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QUOTE(cheaka @ Mar 30 2007, 09:45 AM)
thanks.....i saw got promotion...RM238 for the 200galoon one...very tempting to get it......but my hubby said...better get cage cage type......so we end up getting a big cage for only RM65...hehhehe...double the size we have now for Gollum...bet Gollum will be very happy once we have it all setup.....


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KP, thanks for the price list....actually i bought those laundry basket that is foldable ones....in ACE hardware selling like RM5 something....all i need is to do a net cover and walah...i have a travelling cage liao..hahha...
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Hahaha.. I am also tempted to get but my Kiah hates cages... so... no use if I buy.

How big is the RM65 cage?

My friend also got a traveling cage.... cheaper than explorium hehehe.... go ikea, get the laundry basket that looks exactly like the explorium.... Jusco also got sell...
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QUOTE(Sugre @ Mar 30 2007, 12:16 PM)
Wah! Its been a very long time since I last commented on the forum. Spent the last few days reading the comments. Congrat on V3  thumbup.gif  Better late than never yeah.

I bring my SGs to work about twice a week now. They are like the office mascots. Everyone comes to look at them and ask loads of questions. some like to disturb and poke them. Argh!!!! I don't like people shaking their cage and poking them. It is so annoying and mean.  mad.gif

I like carrying Roscoe when I am at my desk because he will sit still and curl into a big ball. See SG addict.... miss them when they are not here.
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QUOTE(MayWong @ Mar 30 2007, 10:06 AM)
hahaha.. so cute la gollum.. use his hands to cover his ears.. hehe

my bengy will lick his hands clean if he terkena yoghurt.. hehe

yesterday bengy pee on my hand again..

btw.. are their pee acidic? Cos my bf itches all over after bengy peed on him last time..
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so we end up getting a big cage for only RM65...hehhehe...double the size we have now for Gollum...bet Gollum will be very happy once we have it all setup...


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How big is the RM65 cage?

My friend also got a traveling cage.... cheaper than explorium hehehe.... go ikea, get the laundry basket that looks exactly like the explorium.... Jusco also got sell...
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Ohh, I think I know, the rm65 one is like the rm100 only half the size... Cuz the rm100, got 2 piece put together...

Laundry basket enuff ke Hun??

Cheaka, why not take the rm100 one? Much taller... You mean Gollum's current cage is half the size?? I thot Iggy's cage last time was much smaller...

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Well, with regards to sleeping a lot, BabyBoy sleeps quite a bit too. His schedule is very weird, he's awake in the afternoon and sleeps throughout the night. But he's never one to turn down his mealworms.

Just a note:

The first thing that you'll notice if a glider is sick is the changes in his/her behaviour, refusal to eat meals for a number of days (not just one or two) and the number one thing is -- droopy ears. But gliders are very good at hiding the fact that they're sick though. From what I've read online from people's experiences though, if your gliders ears start to droop, that's not a good sign. So keep an eye out for that. Usually when you start to notice that your glider is sick, by that time, there really isn't much you can do already as it means the glider's already really really sick. Cause even if it's not feeling well, it will hide it from you. That's the sad fact. So don't blame yourself too much if anything happens.

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hey sorry ya to those that i've promise to visit the shop which has the albino sg. currently i'm quite busy n i will try to find the shop when i more free. today smtg bad happen to my sg, 1 of my friend came to my house, so he saw one of my sg tail is sticking out of the coconut shell so he went to pull it , i think he pulled it quite hard until it came out from the shell. not long ago. i was playing with my sg until i realise my joy's penis was sticking out , very out n long... i'm still wondering whether this happen coz of my friend. vmad.gif

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don't worry .. other time also can go to the shop ..

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glider penis sticking out is normal... especially when they start to mature.
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oo . does it ? huhuhuhu
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Yeah lol but no worries it'll retract back and all will be normal again. Sometimes the male glider will even start flossing -- licking and stuff la. You only have to worry when it doesn't retract back after a whole day. Then you might need to put some KY Jelly on it so that you can aid your glider to retract it back in. >>; I know it all sounds a bit weird lol but these are the facts. laugh.gif
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err . anyone going to all pet gath at 7th april ?

i'm going to both the ferret talk at ikano on 8th and all pet gath 7th at friendster cafe. the all pet gath maybe just a while ..since it's already night.
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KY jelly what's that? cry.gif went to check it juz now n it is still sticking out wor. not like the normal times when it juz sticks out a little.......
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hi ..

chika wakes up 12 midnight then sleep till 2 am. wake-up then starting to jumpe there jump here. while i'm sleeping , at 3.56am , she barks loudly and i wake-up and feed her pear and mix. usap2 her head then she's back to sleep at 4.22am. i woke up at 9am and she awake till now (10am) and jumping around in her cage .
my question is , izzit normal ?
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normal, takes time fo her to adjust to your pattern as well.

or you can be like me, adjust to hers, sleeping @ 7-9pm and waking at 3am and accompany her until morning around 5-6am then sleep back wink.gif

Peachu is starting to cling to me already, she just stays on my shoulders when I wake around 3am and take her out wubbzzz totally cute xD

Now I just let my glider sleep outside her cage ; she has slept in my artcard rolls, canvas, and now my jacket LOL

btw, mine is like yours ; barked three times so far in total, only when I sleep late and wake @ 5am or so, then she will feel longly and bark for attention.
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At least your gliders bark for your attention... mine purposely bark in my ear to annoy me.... bleh... I got an annoying glider hahahaha...
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Hmm..interesting! SG is a good fren because it can make we wake up early in the morning biggrin.gif

So nice! thumbup.gif good for students --> have fren to accompany during study time thumbup.gif

...but i dun have a glider yet cry.gif

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QUOTE(carsonoel @ Mar 31 2007, 06:23 PM)
normal, takes time fo her to adjust to your pattern as well.Now I just let my glider sleep outside her cage ; she has slept in my artcard rolls, canvas, and now my jacket LOL

btw, mine is like yours ; barked three times so far in total, only when I sleep late and wake @ 5am or so, then she will feel longly and bark for attention.
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hmm. ok lar .. since she wake me up 9pm, i'm officially not nocturnal anymore. 9 or 10am , i wake up . with or without chika waking me up. then sleep at noon till 5 or 6 then sleep again at 3-4am. just when i wanna sleep, she bark .. aiyoh .. takpe la ..it's worth it .

eh .. u let her out ? my cannot like that .. still not recoqnise me. when i wanna pick her up, she nib my hand. then she cabut . if there's food, she come back to me . next week wanna try the tent thing most US owners do .

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At least your gliders bark for your attention... mine purposely bark in my ear to annoy me.... bleh... I got an annoying glider hahahaha...
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hahaha ... kesiannyer ..

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...but i dun have a glider yet cry.gif
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join the party man ! you've seen chika. she is soo cute when sleeping. they are a true friend .. for life ..

anyway ... wanna show you all sumthing i just made. i still have another project going on now, will try to finished it later then i post the other one.
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QUOTE(kurikuraX @ Mar 31 2007, 06:36 PM)
Hmm..interesting! SG is a good fren because it can make we wake up early in the morning biggrin.gif

So nice! thumbup.gif good for students --> have fren to accompany during study time thumbup.gif

...but i dun have a glider yet cry.gif
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apa lagi.... beli laa sleep.gif
beli joey tau nod.gif

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anyway ... wanna show you all sumthing i just made. i still have another project going on now, will try to finished it later then i post the other one.
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Mar 31 2007, 07:12 PM)
hahaha ... kesiannyer ..
join the party man ! you've seen chika. she is soo cute when sleeping. they are a true friend .. for life ..
Yah..tempting! drool.gif

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apa lagi.... beli laa sleep.gif
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Soon! icon_rolleyes.gif

But i need to study more on SG..will properly setup the requirement first thumbup.gif
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Yah..tempting!  drool.gif
Soon!  icon_rolleyes.gif

But i need to study more on SG..will properly setup the requirement first  thumbup.gif
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2nd project finish ... here you goooo

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Wah.... CFP pandai DIY hehehe. I'm also gonna find more stuff to put around my room.

My Kiah doesn't like parrot toys... how bout you guys? Now I don't wanna bother with those ready made toys sold at petshops anymore, it seems my Kiah likes anything that I have around my room hehehe.
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takdelah .. just trying sumthing for my chika. kat ebay, i saw alot of interesthing stuff but expensive la so i DIY lar .. i like DIY stuff. my hobby !

ur kiah cage is ur room maa . so everything inside the room is kiah toys laa .


Added on April 1, 2007, 2:30 amoh forgot .. thanks to KP for da help ya .. Thanks !

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Aiyooo.... Today Miko went missing for quite sometime. We stripped the room and look for more than 2 hrs. Finally found her hanging just outside the window behind some clothes.
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Wah... luckily found her loh... poor Miko...
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Added on April 2, 2007, 9:34 amwhen sg barks , they need attention right ? .. today chika bark twice at 5.41am and 9am .. when i open the lights, go to the cage, she run quickly to her sleepong pouch .. aiyo ... turn off the light , she comes out again .

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haha, so many things going around over the weekend...

wahh, CFP, macam2 dah buat for chika smile.gif

i found those DIY stuff too, but i dun really like to leave the edges "bulu2" like that, that's why i prefer to sew them smile.gif still haven't tried the hammock yet...

vio, is your suggie okay now? must be a horrible experience for him cuz someone pulled his tail like that... that's mean...

iggy is making good progress so far, he is starting to really2 recognize me biggrin.gif altho he still likes to bite... playfully i know, but can be painful too... but i just take it and keep saying NO to him smile.gif when he climbs on to my shoulder, he'll cross over my neck, and bite my neck... aiyohh...

took some pixs of him sleeping, lots of style one, later will post smile.gif

ohh, yeahh, i'm thinking of getting a companion for iggy, but..... i'm worried about having to take care of 2 gliders... how ahh???

ohh, unless i get a suggie like Miko laugh.gif i think she wanted to play hide and seek lah Reanne smile.gif

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haha .. that's only to test . later sew.. better test before i sew. not too good at sewing things .. hahaha. it's been a long long long time i sew sumthing ..not like KP .. pro ...

currently sew two" fleece strips to make a single rope then use three to make err . what do u call those thing .. dunno the name la .. intended to make ropes for inside the cage .. this one is time consuming.

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Added on April 2, 2007, 10:10 amjust noticed sumthing . chika like to gnaw at the tempurung hideout la ..and she also like to gigit2 the exoterra leaves . la .. hungry arr ?

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chiwek n oshine missing in my room last night.... n this morning i noticed they already inside the cage sweat.gif thank god.... sweat.gif


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huwarggg elaine...
chiwek n oshine missing in my room last night.... n this morning i noticed they already inside the cage sweat.gif thank god.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 2 2007, 10:00 AM)
haha .. that's only to test . later sew.. better test before i sew. not too good at sewing things .. hahaha. it's been a long long long time i sew sumthing ..not like KP .. pro ...

currently sew two" fleece strips to make a single rope then use three to make err . what do u call those thing .. dunno the name la .. intended to make ropes for inside the cage .. this one is time consuming.


Added on April 2, 2007, 10:10 amjust noticed sumthing . chika like to gnaw at the tempurung hideout la ..and she also like to gigit2 the exoterra leaves . la .. hungry arr ?
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Wahh, chika got lotsa stuff to play biggrin.gif

Normal lah, they like to nibble2 stuff sometimes... Remember the destroyed leaves Iggy punya kerje?? Hahaha...

Today, getting the stuffs I ordered for Iggy biggrin.gif

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Added on April 2, 2007, 10:30 amOoooo, Reanne smile.gif

So far the Woody Pet you recommend is working fine for me, but cannot tahan lar my husband complaint...

Do you have any other stuff as good as Woody Pet that you can recommend?? smile.gif

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The woody smell is too strong eh?

You can always try another brand called Careline Wood Pellets or the silica based cat litter. I haven't tried either but they've gotten good comments from Hun.
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The woody smell is too strong eh?

You can always try another brand called Careline Wood Pellets or the silica based cat litter. I haven't tried either but they've gotten good comments from Hun.
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Careline wood pellets? I hope it's in Ikano...

The silica based cat litter, I've used it once for this stray that I rescued, doesn't really work for me...

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Usually when my glider barks, I dont switch on the lights ; just kinda ifnd my way to the cage latch and let her out lol biggrin.gif
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My god...have been busy for the past 3 days....my Gollum like buat don't know me.....today have to bring him to office to pujuk him...

ColdFusionpower: great stuff you got that.....where can you find those materials..I also want to DIY stuff liao.....i actually get those strings (those that you use for postal package type) and wood chopsticks & ice cream sticks to make hanging ladder and swings...but don't know my Gollum actually play with it or not...that i don't know....ahhaha.......he has been very very unfriendly lately......

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QUOTE(alieamin @ Apr 2 2007, 10:21 AM)
huwarggg elaine...
chiwek n oshine missing in my room last night.... n this morning i noticed they already inside the cage sweat.gif thank god.... sweat.gif
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hehehe.. u know la..Chiwek very romantic wan. brows.gif brows.gif .. inside the same cage everynight boring ma laugh.gif so bring wife go jalan2 lo doh.gif

QUOTE(cheaka @ Apr 2 2007, 01:09 PM)
My god...have been busy for the past 3 days....my Gollum like buat don't know me.....today have to bring him to office to pujuk him...

ColdFusionpower: great stuff you got that.....where can you find those materials..I also want to DIY stuff liao.....i actually get those strings (those that you use for postal package type) and wood chopsticks & ice cream sticks to make hanging ladder and swings...but don't know my Gollum actually play with it or not...that i don't know....ahhaha.......he has been very very unfriendly lately......

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oh...ya..SG very kuat merajuk wan. So u have to be careful that they dun merajuk to the max..later can runaway like mine cry.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Apr 2 2007, 01:30 PM)
oh...ya..SG very kuat merajuk wan. So u have to be careful that they dun merajuk to the max..later can runaway like mine  cry.gif
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hamster9...aiyoh...don't lah say like that...sometimes they are just curious to explore loh...but my Gollum is weird....very very very takut to explore...the further he did last time was just go around my couch...ahaha...

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QUOTE(cheaka @ Apr 2 2007, 03:43 PM)
IGGY now have more things to play with.... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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I dun know, who is more attached to who now... Him to me... Or me to him... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 2 2007, 10:40 AM)
Dunnolah, ok jer with me...

Careline wood pellets? I hope it's in Ikano...

The silica based cat litter, I've used it once for this stray that I rescued, doesn't really work for me...

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Yes, you can find Careline Wood pellet cat litter... is RM16+ for the 5L pack... looks just like Woody Pet but less smell... hehehe... I don't like Woody Pet smell at all... so I'm using the Careline brand lah.

Silica cat litter.... better not for sugar gliders since it is small and gliders may be curious enough to chew them. Stick to wood better. The silica cat litter is better for Rats.
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Yes, you can find Careline Wood pellet cat litter... is RM16+ for the 5L pack... looks just like Woody Pet but less smell... hehehe... I don't like Woody Pet smell at all... so I'm using the Careline brand lah.
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Careline wood pellet can be found at PS Ikano?

Ohh, see the pix of stuff I post? Is that the delikate bedding you use for *ehem*?

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QUOTE(cheaka @ Apr 2 2007, 02:09 PM)
ColdFusionpower: great stuff you got that.....where can you find those materials..I also want to DIY stuff liao.....i actually get those strings (those that you use for postal package type) and wood chopsticks & ice cream sticks to make hanging ladder and swings...but don't know my Gollum actually play with it or not...that i don't know....ahhaha.......he has been very very unfriendly lately......
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post ur design la .. or pm me . actually the material i used a bit weeker weaved that KP uses. will go to kamdar or globe after i'm back from singapore .. or i can shop for some fleece over there .. hahaha tongue.gif

ur swing also ok but i think i have an idea to make ur gollum more comfortable. wrap the thing via fleece. search for the thick and soft one .. don't buy those rm4.80 kain kapas .. if wanna use that, u better sew at every side or it will opened and thousands of small benang. dangerous !

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today at 11sumthing, chika bark and request food . i guess la .. give her some mix and she eat half of teaspoon. then sumthing happend. she usually lick the mix from my finger then go inside the pouch .. then only her head go out the pouch , lick , go inside back till she's full .

today still the same but with added feature. when she don't want to eat anymore, she's actually go out from the pouch , smell the dining table, look at me then whooiishhh .. jump to my shoulder... smell my hair , go to my arm then jump back to the dining table and into the pouch .. hohoho it's her first ! yay ! rclxm9.gif super happy right now ! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 2 2007, 04:21 PM)
Careline wood pellet can be found at PS Ikano?

Ohh, see the pix of stuff I post? Is that the delikate bedding you use for *ehem*?

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Yups, that's the bedding. I'm looking for the 4kg pack... coz I use about 3kg+ a week... hahaha... yah, it's crazy... monthly bedding cost for me is like RM60 to Rm80.... food for my rodents is like RM100 a month... thank goodness Kiah only like RM15 hahahh....
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bedding those normal chipsi ok la kan ?
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Yah, you can find at PS at cat section heheheh....

Yups, that's the bedding. I'm looking for the 4kg pack... coz I use about 3kg+ a week... hahaha... yah, it's crazy... monthly bedding cost for me is like RM60 to Rm80.... food for my rodents is like RM100 a month... thank goodness Kiah only like RM15 hahahh....
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Ohh, thanks! Will get it when I finish off this woody pet, or else membazir plak...

I bought the delikate from that guy endanger, he has the 4kg one, his customer price is RM19.70... Dunnolah if you can get cheaper elsewhere smile.gif

Haha, Kiah dun need litter bed that's why lah tongue.gif And I bet you're done with buying play stuff for Kiah. I'm still halfway filling in Iggy's, that's why still spending so much... Speaking of which I forgot about the mix... Been busy over the weekend, so sorry sad.gif

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bedding those normal chipsi ok la kan ?
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Ohh, thanks! Will get it when I finish off this woody pet, or else membazir plak...

I bought the delikate from that guy endanger, he has the 4kg one, his customer price is RM19.70... Dunnolah if you can get cheaper elsewhere smile.gif

Haha, Kiah dun need litter bed that's why lah tongue.gif And I bet you're done with buying play stuff for Kiah. I'm still halfway filling in Iggy's, that's why still spending so much... Speaking of which I forgot about the mix... Been busy over the weekend, so sorry sad.gif

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I checked with him, no more 4kg now.... hahah....

Kiah no cage, so no bedding.... but I do have a strong urge to get her a cage hahaha.... coz now rite, everytime I leave my room, I need to close the door so it's kinda stuffy pulak.

Kiah uses all my stuff as her toys... my Ikea shelf as her climbing jungle... so no need any toys hehehe.

You bought the parrot toy? Does Iggy use it? Kiah ignores hers...
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Kiah no cage, so no bedding.... but I do have a strong urge to get her a cage hahaha.... coz now rite, everytime I leave my room, I need to close the door so it's kinda stuffy pulak.

Kiah uses all my stuff as her toys... my Ikea shelf as her climbing jungle... so no need any toys hehehe.

You bought the parrot toy? Does Iggy use it? Kiah ignores hers...
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Dunnolah, I just got that ladder this afternoon, will put it in his cage when I get back smile.gif But I think he'll eventually have to play or jump on it cuz it will be in his cage. Right now there's no vines or wood perch near the main cage door and he likes to come closer to me when I approach, so that's where I'm gonna put it smile.gif I guess Kiah has so many other choices than the ladder toy, that's why she doesn't want to use it smile.gif

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hi pong pong ! why posing like that ? huhuhu
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hi pong pong ! why posing like that  ? huhuhu
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Put it in the cage last night, he sniff2, try to nibble, them jump & hang around it smile.gif

At first he was kindda scared cuz that thing kept on swinging when he's on it, but he keeps on going for more smile.gif

Wanted to take pix, but too dark and blurry ley... Mebbe during the day. Haven't set up the cage with the rest of the vines also, have to wait for the weekends, too tired to do it after work...

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good to hear that ...

just wondering .. did u all glider-proof your room ? my room was loaded with books,boxes,wires,tools. today, i saw chika was jumping here and there in her cage. kesian la pulak . want to let her out but afraid some boxes fall hit her or she bites electrical cords ..
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 3 2007, 01:03 PM)
good to hear that ...

just wondering .. did u all glider-proof your room ? my room was loaded with books,boxes,wires,tools. today, i saw chika was jumping here and there in her cage. kesian la pulak . want to let her out but afraid some boxes fall hit her or she bites electrical cords ..
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Hmm, it's better to have glider proof room, cuz you might never know...

Another thing that is important too is a dust free room, cuz they'll run around sniffing and all.

I let Iggy out in my office room everytime I bring him to office cuz my office room small and nothing harmful. At my apt. I'll let him out in the guest room only so far, cuz nothing much in there except for a bed, table and fan.

Everynite I sleep also Iggy in the cage, jump round and round... Kesian also, but cannot lepas without supervision lar... Thats why I try to keep the cage entertaining and try bring him out as often as I can smile.gif

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the living room is almost glider proof .still need to work on putting wire mesh to the windows. but my room .. there's everything in here ...

so never let ur glider out without supervision . kesian la .. the cage is small ..
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Yeah, not without supervision lah cuz our gliders still new, and haven't fully bond yet.

Your cage is the same size as my cage and see how big is Iggy compared to Chika? The size is just fine... Have you seen the ones at the petshop? Not PS lah, PW? Lagi damn small, lagi kesian...

Do you carry her around in the bonding pouch? That is kira outing already smile.gif Then you can let her crawl all over you, explore you first...

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so pity with my sg.first time meet me i dah carry him around.take him from my fren at s.alam.Go to my college at Ipoh by bus.then take him to my apartment at penang by sccoter.


i want to ask something.is it ok to catch him even he run away,but he not crabbing at all. happy.gif
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i want to ask something.is it ok to catch him even he run away,but he not crabbing at all.  happy.gif
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Depends. Some gliders dun mind, some gliders mind. My glider will bite if I want to catch him when he's out exploring, he doesn't like it. I'll have to call him and let him come to me.

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Yeah, not without supervision lah cuz our gliders still new, and haven't fully bond yet.

Do you carry her around in the bonding pouch? That is kira outing already smile.gif Then you can let her crawl all over you, explore you first...

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yeah .. everyday from the moment i woke up, give her food then into the bonding pouch .. except when i wanna work on my bike. too loud. outing ? she's sleeping what ... how she know .. hmm.gif

crawl ? unfortunetly it only happend yesterday morning and that is only for 10-20seconds the most . then she jump back into the pouch. chika been iqnoring me since i accidently bring her to a cat adoption centre . she crabbing like there's no tomoro .. kesian .. cat smells all over me .. sweat.gif



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i juz meet pesol 2days.i dun think he will come if i call him hehe.erm for the first time i try hold him,he was bite my hand,but i think he bite to taste either my hand have food or not.bcoz its not pain at all.pesol also juz crabbing when someone kacau him in pouch.why arr??

pesol juz 3 old months.anyone can suggest me the diet for him.i try give him baby food(heinz product)Apple + orange flavour but i think he not like it rclxub.gif i give him apple he not interested,juz eat when theres no other food.but when i try give him boiled egg.he very2 love it. biggrin.gif he also try bite my fingers hardly bcoz he think my finger is egg doh.gif so painful than before this blush.gif

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first two days u already pegang him ar ? mine won't come near be for the first 4days ! crab and run away whenver she see me.

crabbing is normal .. since they he is still try to know his new environment. after a while , ok laa .
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hehe may b he is a gud boy since he only crabbing when he in pouch.erm he also not run when see me.he will come near but when i try catch him he will try to escape but never crabbing biggrin.gif so happy hehe
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CFP, carry her around in the bonding pouch whenever you can, even at home. She sleeps, but she'll know cuz she can feel your body warmth and your heartbeat. Iggy likes to sleep with me smile.gif Even watching TV also I put him on my tummy or leg.

She's just scared of the cat smell lar, she sense other creature around, so scared lah...

Khaneys, crabbing is normal, but it means that they are scared or unhappy about something. Mostly they are scared. He crabs when ppl kacau because he is scared and the pouch is suppose to be his safe place. I don't let ppl kacau my glider in his pouch, only I can kacau him... Hehehe... Anyway he is used to me already, last time he crabs when I peek at him in the pouch and will bite if I try to put my hands in it. Now he's okay with me, I can put my hand in the pouch whenever I want to smile.gif

Bonding/taming a glider takes time, won't happen overnight, 2-3 days, sometimes weeks... It all depends on you.

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anyone can tell what i should feed him.for now im only give him apple,babyfood n hard boiled egg.
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Question: You never do research before getting a glider? Or read the main page of this thread?

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ouch ... but have to agree with KP ...


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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 3 2007, 04:10 PM)
ouch ...  but have to agree with KP ...
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No harm intended, but that is the most basic-basic thing to know right?

Went to PW on Sunday, saw the gliders they have, sooo kesian, cage so small, and they are sooo big. I ask them what do they feed them? Fruits and cat food. I was like, "huhh, cat food is not their food and it is not good for them you know." The ppl there buat2 tak dengar aje, grrrrr mad.gif

Just looking out for our glider babies wink.gif

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have read la.but want to make sure and conform.want to give meal worm but cant provide now since i dunno where i can get it.my fren ask me to give him cat food for protein.but i have read that certain cat foods are not suitable for sg.sori my mistake
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owh .. which PW ? so jahat lar vmad.gif ... if i have money , i change the living room to chika's room but no money doh.gif ...

u know la pet shop .. selling / breeding animals just for pure money .. they never care about the animals ... take pictures and put it on blogs or sumthing .. err. they can saman me arr ? hmm.gif

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want to give meal worm but cant provide now since i dunno where i can get it.my fren ask me to give him cat food for protein.but i have read that certain cat foods are not suitable for sg.sori my mistake
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most pet shop or fish shop sell mealworm. rm1 can last a week . my hamster also eat them . i feed them once every two days .

hmm . some cat food hv onions or sumthing glider can't eat. so better not. where are u located ?

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 3 2007, 04:22 PM)
No harm intended, but that is the most basic-basic thing to know right?

Went to PW on Sunday, saw the gliders they have, sooo kesian, cage so small, and they are sooo big. I ask them what do they feed them? Fruits and cat food. I was like, "huhh, cat food is not their food and it is not good for them you know." The ppl there buat2 tak dengar aje, grrrrr mad.gif

Just looking out for our glider babies wink.gif

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which PW ? weeks ago, TagReptiles captured a pic of suggies at PW and posted @ The Star. I was there when he curik2 snap pic tongue.gif well, the condition was really2 bad la..since they gliders fur turned yellow-ish (prolly from pee?) and yea, they gave only kibbles. ah well, hopefully the Management will take notes/educate themselves!


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have read la.but want to make sure and conform.want to give meal worm but cant provide now since i dunno where i can get it.my fren ask me to give him cat food for protein.but i have read that certain cat foods are not suitable for sg.sori my mistake
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mealies u can get at any aqua shops la. RM1 for a spoonful? then feed them rolled oatmeal.you'll get fat mealworms in days.

sorry ya, i sibuk2 here tongue.gif passing by hahaha..I'm poisoned by Connie's/Smelly's darling gliders! Waiting to kidnap Kiah from Hun/ Heidi's babies tongue.gif
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awwwww .. sugar gliders just take my heart away ... laugh.gif so cute !

here's chika picture at her new swing
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You guys ah....make me so jealous that you all have baby ones.....not like my ah pek Gollum....his balding part is also getting worst...getting old already i think...and also lazy to move.... super relax cool sugar glider that you ever met man.... doh.gif doh.gif
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his coolnes what makes gollum special maa ..
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alie-mehmet whose baby? so small and cute wub.gif

CFP-my mealies(mealworms) RM1 can last me a month woo tongue.gif

Khaneys-mealworms can find at almost any pet shop/fish shop. Any type of fruits should be okay except---grapes, raisins, avacado and corns, these are definite No-No for suggies although they will eat it. It's just not good for their health. Other fruits also, you need to check their poops once in a while after giving them certain types of fruits cuz they can cause their poops to be liquid-ish and smelly. I personally find ciku and jambu air, can cause that to my suggie, it's not bad, but have to reduce or alternate it lah. Papaya and watermelon makes their poop orange and red, haha... Ohh, cat food/kibbles is a No-No too...

faerie-this is PW OU, I know the one Tagreptile post last time was the one in MV and they moved the suggies to GE... The one in OU, not as bad as the one Tagreptile saw, but the cage they keep them in is so damn small. They have 2 small cage with 2 suggies in each of em. Atleast I see some fruit cuts in their dish bowl... Feel like wanting to get them only... But no money ley...

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his coolnes what makes gollum special maa ..
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Yeh..he is so special that he tak layan anyone...hahaha....last time when he first move to my place....he was not use to it and very eager to find food...now he knows every night i am going to hand feed him...he just sit and wait for the food to come near him......i have to find a way where when he needs to makan..he should come to me to find food...not sit and wait.....any suggestion how to train ....
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Cheaka, wait la, you also getting baby glider soon maa tongue.gif

Iggy's bald spot also growing, I like to kiss it tho tongue.gif Smell musky2, like perfume pun ada...

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i have to find a way where when he needs to makan..he should come to me to find food...not sit and wait.....any suggestion how to train ....
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i hand feed chika only when in the morning. at night sumtimes la . selang selang. so at night, she will go to the swing to eat.

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eh .. a'ahh .. got it yet or not ?
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not yet...2 more weeks.....said the baby too young....
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that's mean urs and chika new sister is the same batch laaa ..
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Hey faerie! When u getting ur own glider? haha.. my babies no more babies lo.. big cheeky adults..lol.. and horny too.. >_<
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im in penang.im very new in penang bcoz im praktikal here.i know there are akuarium shop in georgetown but i live at bayan lepas.go work at 7 a.m and comeback at 6p.m its hard for me to get it.need wait until weekendla.so now pesol only want eat that boiled egg.i give him baby food but seems he not interested at all.i give him apple also not interested.very2 risaulaa
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khaneys : apple don't want ? some glider are picky .. my chika don't like mango and loves mealworm .. try other fruits mention at the first page ..
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Aiee, CFP also getting Chika sister? But I thot that guy said got one female only, and Cheaka also getting female... blink.gif

Khaneys, try give him other fruits. Yes, diff glider diff style one, diff fruits also that they like. Mine also don't really like apples, but he eats it cuz I paksa him tongue.gif His fav is pears. But the most important food that most glider owners here gives and agrees that their gliders love it, is Hun's mix smile.gif It contains all the goodness and yumminess a glider can ever ask for... Summore so many flava to choose from smile.gif Hahaha, sounds like a TVC promo tongue.gif But yeah, they're good! Next time come down KL must get it from Hun lor smile.gif Btw, your suggie, joey or adult?

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yaya i try.tq he juz lick abit baby food.butt very2 little.now sleeping may be.ok la i want to transfer money to the ex pesol owner.hehe bayar pon xabes lg beli sugar glider nih.chaoz~~


Added on April 3, 2007, 7:00 pmmy sg joey i think.3month old.bite pon xsakit.but if he think my fingers are boiled egg he will bite hardly then sakit lorr.huhu but not bleedingla

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that guy have 3 females .. one for non-lyn , one for cheaka and one for me .

kesian chika lonely .. when i'm on my bike .. to place to put ..and my bike sound is extra-loud .. chika don't like my bike and construction site sounds .

hahaha promo .. now hun must give u discount on mix ..since u promote her mix ..


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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 3 2007, 07:01 PM)
that guy have 3 females .. one for non-lyn , one for cheaka and one for me .
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Wow....all from the same family...can't wait.....
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QUOTE(khaneys @ Apr 3 2007, 06:56 PM)
my sg joey i think.3month old.bite pon xsakit.but if he think my fingers are boiled egg he will bite hardly then sakit lorr.huhu but not bleedingla
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Hmm, my suggie doesn't want to eat egg, no matter what...

If joey good la, a bit easier to handle, like you said, bite also don't feel anything...

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dunno wor .. that's what he said to me.

btw KP , r u going to the ferret talk ? jom lar
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Cheaka, that guy said got 1 female only kan??

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If not I would've asked for one...

I'm trying to convince my hubby to go... He don wan cuz he knows that if go pet safari, I'll be spending tongue.gif

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Any idea where i can help improve my Gollum calcium and stuff.....i am a bit worried as he hardly move around and also don't know if he takes calcium and it be absorb or not since he hardly exerise....how to make him work out.....

i am thinking to get the wheels but not sure whether he will actually play on it....i had already gotten him a bigger cage which is double the size of my old one (for the coming baby SG)....with some hanging swing, and hanging toys...
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dunno la kp .. will call him later ..

picture of the cage .. can ? i wanna buy the terrarium but dunno how to hang stuff since it's walls are made of nylon.
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Cheaka, that guy said got 1 female only kan??

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If not I would've asked for one...

I'm trying to convince my hubby to go... He don wan cuz he knows that if go pet safari, I'll be spending tongue.gif

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I also not too sure...maybe he already reserved the first 2 female for them...

I would like to go for the ferrets talk too...actually it was my first option before getting SG as a pet....but cannot find... will see if i can get away from work for this....

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come laa . and don't bring your sg ..
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QUOTE(cheaka @ Apr 3 2007, 07:17 PM)
I also not too sure...maybe he already reserved the first 2 female for them...

I would like to go for the ferrets talk too...actually it was my first option before getting SG as a pet....but cannot find... will see if i can get away from work for this....
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I also wanna ask lah if he has anymore female or later2...

I love ferrets, they're super adorable and flexible laugh.gif But tricky lah to have these weird2 pets cuz my family a bit against it esp my dad... Iggy pun he doesn't know yet, haha... Nasib baik my hubby ok, but bising if I don't take care of my pets only... According to him, now I over take care plak with Iggy, so he a bit jelous sometimes tongue.gif

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Added on April 3, 2007, 7:28 pmI'm still debating on flexarium or explorarium... Hahaha...

Need to get it soo already cuz traveling end of this month mebbe...

With flexarium can hang at the pvc poles lah I guess, but not too heavy stuffs la...

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 3 2007, 07:23 PM)
Nasib baik my hubby ok, but bising if I don't take care of my pets only... According to him, now I over take care plak with Iggy, so he a bit jelous sometimes tongue.gif

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you are not the only one....my hubby now complains because of Gollum around then only we have so many varieties of fruits in the house....Gollum don't like the fruits then only we get to eat.....but he was the one that ask me to get a female baby...ahhah... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha, also same...

Since ada Iggy, baru ada fruits tongue.gif

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Found this link from the National Geographic Kids.....takes a bit of time to download but this is the first time i see a video of sugar glider glide so far....

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/b.../bctid611224457
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first time i see pesol sleeps hehe.ihold him.he not crabbing.then put him in pouch.want to usap2 his head he start to make sound doh.gif aiya y only crabbing when in pouch. rclxub.gif
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Haha, just to update that Iggy likes the ladder swing smile.gif

Put it in the cage last night, he sniff2, try to nibble, them jump & hang around it smile.gif

At first he was kindda scared cuz that thing kept on swinging when he's on it, but he keeps on going for more smile.gif

Wanted to take pix, but too dark and blurry ley... Mebbe during the day. Haven't set up the cage with the rest of the vines also, have to wait for the weekends, too tired to do it after work...

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i juz meet pesol 2days.i dun think he will come if i call him hehe.erm for the first time i try hold him,he was bite my hand,but i think he bite to taste either my hand have food or not.bcoz its not pain at all.pesol also juz  crabbing when someone kacau him in pouch.why arr??

pesol juz 3 old months.anyone can suggest me the diet for him.i try give him baby food(heinz product)Apple + orange flavour but i think he not like it rclxub.gif  i give him apple he not interested,juz eat when theres no other food.but when i try give him boiled egg.he very2 love it. biggrin.gif he also try bite my fingers hardly bcoz he think my finger is egg doh.gif  so painful than before this blush.gif
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If you hold him and he bites you, not because of food lah but because he tak suka. Crabbing also means he is scared or irritated. Please give him fruits.... you bagi so much egg, cannot lah. Too much protein can make it cirit birit later.

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No harm intended, but that is the most basic-basic thing to know right?

Went to PW on Sunday, saw the gliders they have, sooo kesian, cage so small, and they are sooo big. I ask them what do they feed them? Fruits and cat food. I was like, "huhh, cat food is not their food and it is not good for them you know." The ppl there buat2 tak dengar aje, grrrrr mad.gif

Just looking out for our glider babies wink.gif

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Sigh... very normal lah. Almost every petshop I have been to always give only apple and low quality dogfood or catfood... kesian the gliders. Anyway, the gliders that were from MV are not displayed at GEM.... I went there, cannot see any also... but the whole place kinda messy and the poor dogs there all stinky stinky.

QUOTE(khaneys @ Apr 3 2007, 05:05 PM)
have read la.but want to make sure and conform.want to give meal worm but cant provide now since i dunno where i can get it.my fren ask me to give him cat food for protein.but i have read that certain cat foods are not suitable for sg.sori my mistake
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No catfood ah... later get lumpy jaw coz too hard. If you nak bagi, soa it in some water but only give as a treat and only when the food is soft.

QUOTE(khaneys @ Apr 3 2007, 06:46 PM)
im in penang.im very new in penang bcoz im praktikal here.i know there are akuarium shop in georgetown but i live at bayan lepas.go work  at 7 a.m and comeback at 6p.m its hard for me to get it.need wait until weekendla.so now pesol only want eat that boiled egg.i give him baby food but seems he not interested at all.i give him apple also not interested.very2 risaulaa
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Give more fruits lah. Honey Dew, watermelon, papaya, jambu air, kiwi, sengkuang, rambutan.... so many to choose. Just go to those hawker stalls that sell fruits and buy. Don't give pineapple yah... not all can tolerate pineapple.

QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 3 2007, 06:56 PM)
Aiee, CFP also getting Chika sister? But I thot that guy said got one female only, and Cheaka also getting female... blink.gif

Khaneys, try give him other fruits. Yes, diff glider diff style one, diff fruits also that they like. Mine also don't really like apples, but he eats it cuz I paksa him tongue.gif His fav is pears. But the most important food that most glider owners here gives and agrees that their gliders love it, is Hun's mix smile.gif It contains all the goodness and yumminess a glider can ever ask for... Summore so many flava to choose from smile.gif Hahaha, sounds like a TVC promo tongue.gif But yeah, they're good! Next time come down KL must get it from Hun lor smile.gif Btw, your suggie, joey or adult?

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Wah sweat.gif promotion but not by me pulak hahahah... but it's good to know that all gliders love it. tongue.gif

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Any idea where i can help improve my Gollum calcium and stuff.....i am a bit worried as he hardly move around and also don't know if he takes calcium and it be absorb or not since he hardly exerise....how to make him work out.....

i am thinking to get the wheels but not sure whether he will actually play on it....i had already gotten him a bigger cage which is double the size of my old one (for the coming baby SG)....with some hanging swing, and hanging toys...
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tq for the info hunhun

yeah pesol like carrot also biggrin.gif

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hello..any idea why my SG like bite my skin??? my SG quite tame... got any skill to tranfer to me??? thanks
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@KP, He belong to my fren... same batch with Chibi. nod.gif

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hello..any idea why my SG like bite my skin??? my SG quite tame... got any skill to tranfer to me??? thanks
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When you hold it then it bites or it simply come to you to bite you?
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ur dog and kiah is best friend maa . my cat ? hohoho everyone afraid. chika don't like me smells like cats .. hahaha she will crab till i mandi ..

hun, ur room messy or not ? i'm afraid to let chika out. too much stuff. especially electrical cords/ data / signal cabels
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When you hold it then it bites or it simply come to you to bite you?
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 3 2007, 11:05 PM)
ur dog and kiah is best friend maa . my cat ? hohoho everyone afraid. chika don't like me smells like cats .. hahaha she will crab till i mandi ..

hun, ur room messy or not ? i'm afraid to let chika out. too much stuff. especially electrical cords/ data / signal cabels
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when i simply near to SG ... i think he might though my finger is food?? is it???  blush.gif  blush.gif
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Simply go near? Could be irritated hahaha.... or play. Sometimes my glider bites me to play.
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messy ar ? hahaha .. same la pulak .. my room is the most electrical consuming and advanced. haha my pc are on 24/7 ... how if i put the wires inside a pvc hose like those mesin basuh hose ..

how about holes under my bed ? owh .. my bed is actually a sofa. can open it into a normal sofa then to a bed. there is quite big space where i put my stuff in there. have to cover those also right ? it might be dangerous. especially the springs
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 3 2007, 11:47 PM)

Simply go near? Could be irritated hahaha.... or play. Sometimes my glider bites me to play.
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bite for play..emmm..sometime i try to let SG (ricky) jus bite me .. but it seem getting more pain one bite after... so is it you just let your SG bite you ??


ya .. wana ask you if just let SG play around the room.. is it ok.. are they will go back to cage by themselfves???
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err . think never let ricky to nib .. then he get used to it , it become a habit. everytime see u, he wanna bite u .

with supervision should be ok lar .. i bought a small tent for chika. let her out, put her cage inside the tent. better this way . my room way to dangerous
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@ alie, how u make mehmet sleep in ur palms...

mine one just goes ratatataa bang bang and up to the cupboard she goes when I turn on the lights, and then retreats to her "bed" on my cupboard sweat.gif
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Hun - Haha, yeah, happy that Iggy likes the toy, he even jumps to it and hang on it to get mealworms from me smile.gif

CFP & Cheaka - Err, about your future baby glider, I just saw his post that he has reaserved male for both of you and the female for someone else... You can check back in his sales thread...

Carson - "ratatataa bang bang"??? What's that?? Hahaha laugh.gif

Btw, I really think Iggy's getting fat... Hahaha tongue.gif He need's more execercise...

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oh my.....i guess better check with him on that....as he said female reserved for me in my PM.......arhghghg.... :hmm

my update...sms him..no reply...guess i won't be able to get what i want...have to start searching again.... sad.gif

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QUOTE(carsonoel @ Apr 4 2007, 04:16 AM)
@ alie, how u make mehmet sleep in ur palms...

mine one just goes ratatataa bang bang and up to the cupboard she goes when I turn on the lights, and then retreats to her "bed" on my cupboard sweat.gif
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wat is ratata bang? tongue.gif

easy marr....just grasp(*genggam*do i spell corectly? ) ur suggie between ur 2 hands.(if joey 1 hand enough laugh.gif ) that is what Hamster9 teach me... n its working anyway. nod.gif

btw KP, which seller? im thinking to grab another joey laaa hmm.gif

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hoho, Peachu will today be officially grounded in her cage for messing up my room with mealworms and my $ stash all over my room.

GROUNDED I SAY, see what Im typing PEachu! BWAHAHAHAHAH!

ok la, Im not that bad, but have to ground a bit sweat.gif 2nd night edy she mess up my room with mealworms everywhere...


Added on April 4, 2007, 12:06 pmwakaka, ratatata bang bang is sound fx Peachu makeswhen going up to the cupboard ; banging everything and tick tocking as she climbs, quite noisy biggrin.gif

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Every night Kiah bangs all my things off my cupboards and shelves.... wah, no cage so I use my drawer as her punishment hahaah.... nah, I don't punish her at all heheheh....

Kiah is awake now, eating a piece of apple happily, I just got back home from college and my room looks like a tornado went through LOL....

Oh a funny thing, Kiah likes to play with RM1 notes.... sometimes my money will get carried by Kiah till dunno where but luckily RM1 only and not my RM10 ahahaha
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kiah have saving account at Kiah's National Bank tongue.gif . haha she kipnap ur rm1 note then stash is sumwhere .. so she can buy more stuff for herself .. hahaha

Update : chika is the smart one lah . i donno how, but she manage to open the cage door. i woke up at noon and see the cage door is open ! i just had an heart attack. later found her near my plastic plant . fuhh

give her the pouch, she don't want to go in. pujuk her for half and hour then i slowly take her ans she jump to my neck then into the cage. hohoho .. just now, i give her some mix. she only eat a little, poop on the dining table then wondering around again. jump to my leg, then don't want to go inside the pouch again. haiyah .. so just bare the sharp nails of hers then while she searching for sumthing in my hair, quickly go upstairs to put her inside her cage ..move my head near the cage, then she jump inside.

it seem that chika been very very clever and curious lately .. hmm.gif


Added on April 4, 2007, 2:51 pmKP, Cheaka :

Already called him and he said that he has 4 females but didn't put it on the forum. so it's like this

CFP : 1 female
Cheaka: 1 female
Raindrop : 1 female

and another one dunno who

COD date would be between 18th or 20th April.

so don't worry ! be happy !

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Ratata bang bang!!

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Aiyoh Kiah wanna open savings account ler later tongue.gif

Oklah, CFP and Cheaka can be happy ler, I still looking for my baby female, huuuu...

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CFP where did you get your fleece material to make the swing and hammock? I was thinking of making it for my critters but I really have no idea where to buy material....where did you get yours? How much was it?

On another note, I am now known as the mad girl who talks to her lunch box in the office! Humph my colluegues knows that I bring my critters to work and they were contemplating eating them as a delicacy! shocking.gif

Sigh my babies are no longer safe in the office. How like that?

But I believe that them critters are really foolhardy. Yesterday they tried to claw the cat's eyes out! Put the cat near the cage and they got so excited they wanted to bite its ear! This is a squirrel killing, lizard hunting, cockroach playing, rabbit eating cat! flex.gif


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Sugre, I don't only talk to my suggie in the office I sing to my suggie after I kacau him and want him to go back to sleep tongue.gif My officemates will look at me one kind, hahaha...

Ohh, and yeah I have ppl in my office wanting to BBQ my suggie too sad.gif

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CFP where did you get your fleece material to make the swing and hammock? I was thinking of making it for my critters but I really have no idea where to buy material....where did you get yours? How much was it?
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Nagoyo carreefour subang jaya. the fleece i used is low quality one. have to sew every edge/end. rm4.80 per meter. buy this for test only. try it first then go to the more soft,designs material.

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Sugre, I don't only talk to my suggie in the office I sing to my suggie after I kacau him and want him to go back to sleep tongue.gif My officemates will look at me one kind, hahaha...
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I think he spoil already lah tongue.gif

Cannot imagine if someone else take care of him, how...

He don't want with ppl still sweat.gif

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ofcoz la .. spoil glider .. sampai kene sing .. but ... i wish chika was like that ... she still don't like meee
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Sabar lar... Chika baru how long with you... Iggy mula2 kan lagi worst, cuz he's already an adult, not tame summore... I'm thankful that within less than 2 months he has progressed so much smile.gif Feels like I've had him forever tongue.gif

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It is like that lah.....especially we are the new to having a SG....we will do anything for them...ehehhe....i pun spoiled my Gollum until now he just sit and wait for me to bring the food to him...ahhahhaha
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KP: Wah damn power to sing to suggie in office! thumbup.gif I think my colleagues will really call me a looony bin then.... already I am the crazy girl who chops up fruits at her desk and carry the grey fluffy things around.

CFP: Thank you! I will go check up on the shop for the material! They also sell good quality fleece there?

Don't worry guys... I actually took super long to get my SGs used to me. Now I am still not even sure if they are bonded to me. They don't crab at me at all, well not unless something scared them. And I can carry them and don't get bitten, I have scars all over my body because they use me as a climbing post.

The sad part is that I am super allergic to their claws/pee/scent marking/scratches etc. I will develop raised red welts on my skin after they climb on me. There will be so many welts that it looks like I have some really big hybrid rashes. Plus my hands and body will even shake from the itchiness. cry.gif
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This morning when I came into my room, Pickles was sitting on one of my ham's tank and made a collected jump, smacking onto my beardie's tank.

It was funny cuz he had been roaming round my room for so long, and he still doesn't know my beardie's tank is glass so he can't go through it.
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Yeah, well, not too loud lah, but ppl can still hear it tongue.gif

Today, made Iggy jump to me from my colleague, like 3 times cuz they want to see him jump. He's such a good boy, he knows his momma tongue.gif

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Hahah... dunno got high or not heheh... but my friends were amazed at how tame and well mannered she was. We were having a small gathering at MidValley's Secret Recipe.... Kiah wouldn't sit still for the pics so I let her hold the parsley so she can sit still for awhile. Then she had a drink of ice lemon tea from my cup... damn naughty hahaha...
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hurm pesol very angry if i kacau when he want sleep.juz look he in pouch he will stat crabbing rrrrrtttt rtttt~ doh.gif
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if u sleeping , someone kacau also u marah kan .. so same as pesol lar .. and he's still new with you ..

mine also like that. till now, sometimes if i kacau chika, she will crab also. if she crab, i stop , usap2 her head, then she's back to sleep.

give him time to adjust ... chewah .. macam pro pulak tongue.gif


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..tried to give her supermealworm but after i show her the supermealworm, she jump from the dining table and run into her pouch . haha . i know she enjoy eating mealworms but i think these supermealworm just too supersized for her!

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my pesol escape from his cage this morning. rclxub.gif
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Hun, tell me someone whose not impressed with Kiah?

Everyone is... biggrin.gif

Hehe, but so cute lah she hold the parsley tongue.gif

Wahh, Chika, hyper at 2 am tongue.gif She wants to play smile.gif

Why la you give superworm? So damn biglah, Chika also scared... "What the heck???" (Runs back into the pouch...) tongue.gif

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Anyway...finally i get to get on line...so busy lately...with 2 more SG.

I actually adopted from TarePanda....1 male and 1 female...( frodo and eowyn)....they are quiet tame but a bit aggressive as in active.....

I was surprised how Gollum is so cool with having 2 more new friends in his new big cage...but anyway..i will be picking up a much bigger cage over the weekend as i need to use my truck to transport it.....

On their first night... i stayed up really late just to make sure they are okay...and a few crabing here and there but up till 4am...they were okay...althought they didn't play together but they all stay away from each other but i pampered them one by one by feeding them crickets and worm....i think Frodo and Eowyn never eaten cricket before and they really take their time eating it...

Then about 6am...my husband woke up and heard one of them barking....hmm....not too sure what was it about as i was tired and couldn't wake up at all until 9am...hahha...but their timing is so different from Gollum..Gollum sleeps very early around 8am where by they both still awake..

On Second night....it was an interesting sight for me....Gollum as usual up early around 11.pm..whereby the other 2 were sleeping...then I fed a bit to Gollum and he went into the other pouch where the other 2 were sleeping....i was worried at first but they didn't make any sound at all and all 3 of them were sleeping togehter.... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif .....

Anyway..the female hiss alot...any idea...althought i have not seen any fighting yet...and Gollum seems to be okay with the other male...they were smelling each other when i was feeding them worms....

Frodo and Eowyn is about 1 and a half years old if i am not mistaken as they are still small and Frodo head is still not balding yet..just a bit only..not obvious..so sometimes i mistaken Frodo is the female....

Will try take picture over this weekend and show you guys.....I just can't get enough of them.....need to get more supplies...


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QUOTE(cheaka @ Apr 6 2007, 12:27 PM)
On their first night... i stayed up really late just to make sure they are okay...and a few crabing here and there but up till 4am...they were okay...althought they didn't play together but they all stay away from each other but i pampered them one by one by feeding them crickets and worm....i think Frodo and Eowyn never eaten cricket before and they really take their time eating it...

Then about 6am...my husband woke up and heard one of them barking....hmm....not too sure what was it about as i was tired and couldn't wake up at all until 9am...hahha...but their timing is so different from Gollum..Gollum sleeps very early around 8am where by they both still awake..

On Second night....it was an interesting sight for me....Gollum as usual up early around 11.pm..whereby the other 2 were sleeping...then I fed a bit to Gollum and he went into the other pouch where the other 2 were sleeping....i was worried at first but they didn't make any sound at all and all 3 of them were sleeping togehter.... icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif .....

Anyway..the female hiss alot...any idea...althought i have not seen any fighting yet...and Gollum seems to be okay with the other male...they were smelling each other when i was feeding them worms....

I just can't get enough of them.....need to get more supplies...


Sounds like a good progress smile.gif

I think their times almost like Iggy, at 8 still awake...

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Hissing, we'll I learnt that there are 2 types of hissing, one is if a suggie has urinary problem, meaning difficulty to pee, another one is their way of communicating to each other, like calling them to come close or something smile.gif

Hahaha, can't get enuff of them? What you plan to get?

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This is yet another sound depending on where they are and what they are doing. So I will try to explain the best I can.

* It sounds much like a snake that is hissing that is in labor.. very short and deliberate hisses.. This can be a sound of constipation, watch them while they make this sound, there are very distinct differences between this and other hissing sounds. If the tail is straight up in the air and they seem to be hunched over, chances are they are having a hard time going to the bathroom and this problem needs to be corrected.

* This sounds very much like the one above but in slightly longer intervals, and has some slight differences in the pitches. this could be a sound of annoyance, basically they don't like something,

* This one has very long stretches.. I have heard this when one wants the other near to them.. they are long and drawn out.. You can actually hear the hissing going both on the inhale as well as the normal exhale.. Interpreted, this means "come here RIGHT NOW"

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kiah damn cute lar ....

ooo didn't know hissing have a few meanings. thanks KP !
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Wah... Cheaka got 2 more hahaha.... so nice. I want another LOL... but I'm gonna wait heheheh.... Kiah needs a friend soon. Not a mate but a friend.

Ah, so tired.... I just got back. Just met May Wong around 1pm... then I went 1U to buy some stuff... erm, PW at 1U is really messy... nothing much to see and quite a number of their birds are sickly. Some dogs had skin problems.... so sad. Some hamsters were wounded and some were overweight... aiyoh, I pity them so much.
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I just bought this really nice coconut for Kiah... and she loves it. Here are some photos.

The coconut got some carvings as design. Also it's cheap, RM4.90 only hahahah... Go to 1U at the DIY Homefix place to find.

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err. hun . the edge tak tajam ker ? seem like it was sharp ..
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No... photo look tajam... it is curved. Rounded lah.... so not tajam.
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owh ... nice ...

hun .. i have a question .. chika like to bite the tempurung house and exoterra leaves. does it means she is a chewer ?

thinking of getting the 30"x30"x70" terrarium .
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 6 2007, 10:39 PM)
owh ... nice ...

hun .. i have a question .. chika like to bite the tempurung house and exoterra leaves. does it means she is a chewer ?

thinking of getting the 30"x30"x70" terrarium .
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Hmmm... she itchy for something hahhaha.... but Kiah is a chewer but never bite the coconut or the exoterra leaves in my room.

Terrarium is different hehehe, you mean the flexarium rite? You can experiement. You got the pouch from KP rite? Does Chika bite the mesh? If she does not chew the pouch or mesh, then can buy the flexarium lah.
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Terrarium is different hehehe, you mean the flexarium rite? You can experiement. You got the pouch from KP rite? Does Chika bite the mesh? If she does not chew the pouch or mesh, then can buy the flexarium lah.
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eh .. my bad .. flexarium . no . she doesnt bite the mesh coz most of the time she's sleeping . did put her when she is awake but she only try to open the zipper .

so .. should be ok right ...
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Then I guess ok.... you make sure the zipper of the flexarium, you ikat with wire or something so that it is not easy to open.

Or how about you DIY? Hahaha... I saw the same type of mesh, RM9.90 only at 1U just now.... you just build the frame with wood, then you mesh up loh with the nylon mesh.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 7 2007, 12:13 AM)
Or how about you DIY? Hahaha... I saw the same type of mesh, RM9.90 only at 1U just now.... you just build the frame with wood, then you mesh up loh with the nylon mesh.
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but .. 9.90 for how long ? 1 meter or 1 feet ? the normal pvc mesh i found is rm8 per feet . if the mesh is permeter, 1Utama Here I Come !
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 6 2007, 11:25 PM)
wood ? cannot . most wood at hardware shop are treated wood. i can use PVC piping but the nylon dunno where can find. if the one u see is the same mesh, wow ! u just made my day !

but .. 9.90 for how long ? 1 meter or 1 feet ? the normal pvc mesh i found is rm8 per feet . if the mesh is permeter, 1Utama Here I Come !
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Hahaah... you very cepat PET PAIRING discussions are prohibited ! hehehe..

Ah... true true... PVC pipes then. Yes, the mesh is nylon, almost same quality as the Flexarium, maybe a bit harder so not so easy to chew. You go to the same place I beli the coconut. The DIY homefix. The mesh is really good looking and sell in packet form. I forgot how many meters lah but got 2 packs. Small pack RM9.90 and bigger is RM11 or 16... can't remember but should be cukup for you to build hehehee. The shop got a few types... got the big mesh, medium mesh and small mesh....

Maybe once you finish making it, can post tutorial here so we all can learn hahahah.
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yalor .. i hate those guys . come here , looking for their pet mate . hishh vmad.gif

owh . they sell by packs arr ? here got bit problem la . let say the pack is 20"x40". and i wish to make sumthing bigger than that. i need to make a few extra sections. if can get big roll, easier to built. i don't need to built sections. just one big frame.

where exactly is the shop ? what floor ? which side ? i can go there tomoro before the HomeApet Gath to check it out. if the price is right, sunday, i buy some.

btw, since it's made of PVC piping, it can be open it and store it. easier if u travel alot .. thumbup.gif
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My cage set up is very simple because she doesn't spend much time in it. She gets to roam around in the room most of the time so it's no point decorating a lot. I have a vine that runs across the cage horizontally, then the coconut is hanging from the top of the cage in mid air. The pouch is clipped at the middle left side. That's all.
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yalor .. i hate those guys . come here , looking for their pet mate . hishh vmad.gif

owh . they sell by packs arr ? here got bit problem la . let say the pack is 20"x40". and i wish to make sumthing bigger than that. i need to make a few extra sections. if can get big roll, easier to built. i don't need to built sections. just one big frame.

where exactly is the shop ? what floor ? which side ? i can go there tomoro before the HomeApet Gath to check it out. if the price is right, sunday, i buy some.

btw, since it's made of PVC piping, it can be open it and store it. easier if u travel alot ..  thumbup.gif
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Erm.... LG? I tak ingat... but it is the same floor with HangTen... the shop is near the Speedy Video... same level with the PW lah.
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Aihh... Who's doing pet pairing here? Dun see pun...

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Added on April 7, 2007, 10:46 amWahh, CFP, Flexarium pun nak DIY tongue.gif But good idea also smile.gif If can make it lesser than the Flexarium why not? I'm just wondering the zipping part lah, how to do? If I'm not gonna dissemble it, mebbe okay kut, but I need one that can be dissembled and assembled, for travelling purpose smile.gif

Sighhh...

I have to work a bit today, Iggy's with me smile.gif This morning, let him wonder in the guest room, then he went into one of my storage box, waited for him to come out, tak keluar2... When I opened the box, he was crabbing and doing the boxing action, then he went deeper into the box, dunno why, when I called him to come out and tried to let him come to my hand, he crabbed again... I guess he was scared that he was lost and perhaps the smell in the box is so weird what with some scented candles and all... But finally managed to get him out and into his pouch, he has that takut look tho... So kesian... Had to hold him and talk to him for a while. Normally when he's scared of something, he'll jump to me, dunno, mebbe he got confused sweat.gif

Reanne, Iggy does that peeking all the time smile.gif When he hears someone near his cage, he'll peek laugh.gif

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Aihh... Who's doing pet pairing here? Dun see pun...

Added on April 7, 2007, 10:46 amWahh, CFP, Flexarium pun nak DIY tongue.gif But good idea also smile.gif If can make it lesser than the Flexarium why not? I'm just wondering the zipping part lah, how to do? If I'm not gonna dissemble it, mebbe okay kut, but I need one that can be dissembled and assembled, for travelling purpose smile.gif
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hmm zipper ? sew it to the nylon mesh cannot arr ? let me check the nylon mesh price first .
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Today I bought a cat cage.... damn besar.... and if you got space, should get for sugar glider. All you need is some nylon mesh to cover up the cage coz the bar gap is 1inch. I bought it for my cat hahahh... RM220 is nice and for a 4.5ft cage, quite cheap. So if put Sugar glider, lagi best.
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hihi.. im a new.. and i would like to ask some questions if any of you encounter death of your gliders before?
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Death in gliders can be anything. It can be the wrong food, too young, depression, infections and injuries.
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the truth is i dont have any sg yet.. and currently there is an offer from a fren for a pair which is around 1 year old .. therefore i'm not sure whether to get it anot..i'm afraid they are hard to tame and take longer time to adapt to it's new owner.. any comments?
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1y.o ? cann . but it will take longer time.


Added on April 8, 2007, 5:27 pmerr . want to ask sumthing lar . am i giving her too much food ? see the picture below

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is it possible for me to even bond with them? cause few of my friens say it is SUPER hard =(
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Maybe they didn't put enough effort? Or maybe their gliders are not joeys? It's not that hard la if you put effort in it and get them at the right age. smile.gif
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Kubiz, bonding with gliders takes time and a lot of patience. If you read up a bit, most gliders can be tamed, even the old ones, all it needs is time, patience and your effort smile.gif Although it is could be slightly difficult, it is not impossible smile.gif

CFP, wahhh, Chika dah fat2 also laugh.gif Hahaha tongue.gif Good lar.

Crazymouse, did you get my sms? Aihh Kiah, whacha doin with the hammie??? blink.gif Hahaha...

Ohh, I went to PS on Saturday instead of Sunday, cuz went straight from office, so cudn't join the ferret session. Checked out the flexarium for a while, I think I will have to get one lah, the 22 gallon shud be okay for travelling, but kesian plak, I think 38 gallon is the best smile.gif

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Sounds like a good progress smile.gif

I think their times almost like Iggy, at 8 still awake...

Hahaha, can't get enuff of them? What you plan to get?
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Anyway, picked up the huge cage.....Gollum must be very happy to have a bigger space now as I believe he never had that kind of space to run around....


Added on April 9, 2007, 11:38 amcrazymouse: thanks for the suggie food....Frodo and Eowyn seems to like it very much except Gollum....guess he never tried food like this before as i was told that Gollum was on Apple and Koa Chi diet last time when he was being used for breeding purpose in the pet shop.....will see whether he will try on it again tonight....now he can't get enough of crickets and worms....

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Anyway, I picked up the cage on Sunday and have to wash first at my parent's house before i bring it back to my apartment.....it is 180cm tall.....Gollum, Frodo and Eowyn had trouble getting use with the big cage last night......hehehe.....hissing here and there.....must be calling each other..... doh.gif

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the cage look like DIY one.. use cable tied and pvc mesh. izzit stable ? can u take a picture of the cage door ? wanna built one but dunno how to make the door.

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the cage look like DIY one.. use cable tied and pvc mesh. izzit stable ?
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It is indeed. I was very impressed with Frodo and Eowyn's previous owner with his effort of doing the cage. Using cable tied and pvc mesh. Quite stable. But I would recommend to have it lean at the back on the wall instead of of stand alone. I have my coconut screwed on the pvc mesh..very stable...the sleeping pouch hang on the mesh also no problem...the water bottles and stuff also can be hang on ...

the pvc mesh is quiet strong....

I am now looking to find eucalyptus tree...I was told we can request to order from those plant nursery shop..thinking to put the tree there..hehehe.....

Will take close up picture tonight on the door...quite interesting how he DIY using sticks and stuff...but I am looking to get proper hinges soon once I am free to drop by those DIY shop....

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the pvc mesh is expensive. that's why i cancel my project. i wanna built one that even i can fit into one. but those pvc mesh .. huh .. expensive la. wanna use mesh like hun found at 1U but if mesh, cannot hang water bottle, coconut hideout,etc .. what are the main frame made off ?

u can order the tree ? must be expensive ...
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Really...I didn't know the pvc mesh is expensive...guess I really got a good deal from the previous owner.....the metal frame is from those clothes hanging cabinet type that you can buy from hypermarket with cover.....was a bit rusted on the bottom part....i believe the SG must have pee on it...ahhaha....too acidic...anyway..i had it resprayed with anti rust (those they use for car undercarriage one)...then dry it up and have it all tape up and also with the bedding over it...ehehe... so that they won't go near there...

not too sure how much will it cost...but will ask a friend to check it out for me as he is dealing with plants...ehhehe...

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Wahh, cheaka, big also the cage smile.gif But why does it seem like the sides are falling apart?

You should trim the cables tied to make it neater smile.gif Use a cutter plyer or heavy duty scissors. I use the black pvc mesh with black cable ties, and I cut off the extras, so it is not very visible smile.gif

CFP, wanna do a DIY cage project together???

Cheaka, someone told me that there are eucalytus trees in the Lake Garden... Made me feel like wanna go cut down the tree... laugh.gif

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Wahh, cheaka, big also the cage smile.gif But why does it seem like the sides are falling apart?

You should trim the cables tied to make it neater smile.gif Use a cutter plyer or heavy duty scissors. I use the black pvc mesh with black cable ties, and I cut off the extras, so it is not very visible smile.gif

CFP, wanna do a DIY cage project together???

Cheaka, someone told me that there are eucalytus trees in the Lake Garden... Made me feel like wanna go cut down the tree... laugh.gif

If you manage to order the tree, let me know ya smile.gif

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Yeah..the joining part is a bit crocked when we transport it as my truck trunk space not big enough also to fit the whole thing....but it can be easily adjusted and have it tape properly after that....

I wanted to cut out the cable ties but my husband said it might have sharp edges...so said leave it as it is....

You serious..they have it at lake garden...eheheh...let's go..... sweat.gif

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Yeah..the joining part is a bit crocked when we transport it as my truck trunk space not big enough also to fit the whole thing....but it can be easily adjusted and have it tape properly after that....

I wanted to cut out the cable ties but my husband said it might have sharp edges...so said leave it as it is....

You serious..they have it at lake garden...eheheh...let's go..... sweat.gif

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If the cutter you use is sharp enough, won't leave sharp edges. Rather than leaving it sticking out like that, can poke people tongue.gif

Yeah, let's go lake garden smile.gif My friend even said that the tree is easily recognizable cuz the sap emerging from it makes the tree look beautiful, almost like painted watercolor over it biggrin.gif

Can put 2 suggies together in the bonding pouch huhh? They ok?

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If the cutter you use is sharp enough, won't leave sharp edges. Rather than leaving it sticking out like that, can poke people tongue.gif

Yeah, let's go lake garden smile.gif My friend even said that the tree is easily recognizable cuz the sap emerging from it makes the tree look beautiful, almost like painted watercolor over it biggrin.gif

Can put 2 suggies together in the bonding pouch huhh? They ok?

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Well... Kiah went inside my hammie's tank to look for pellets to nibble, damn bad habit.... then my hammie pulak see Kiah like see friend liao, share his food with her.... during that pic, my hammie actually took food from Kiah's mouth.... goodness, I got a very weird glider.... she tries to bite my gecko's nose, tried to grab my snake and now she shares food with my hamster.... sweat.gif

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Kubiz, bonding with gliders takes time and a lot of patience. If you read up a bit, most gliders can be tamed, even the old ones, all it needs is time, patience and your effort smile.gif Although it is could be slightly difficult, it is not impossible smile.gif

CFP, wahhh, Chika dah fat2 also laugh.gif Hahaha tongue.gif Good lar.

Crazymouse, did you get my sms? Aihh Kiah, whacha doin with the hammie??? blink.gif Hahaha...

Ohh, I went to PS on Saturday instead of Sunday, cuz went straight from office, so cudn't join the ferret session. Checked out the flexarium for a while, I think I will have to get one lah, the 22 gallon shud be okay for travelling, but kesian plak, I think 38 gallon is the best smile.gif

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KP: Thanks for the info.....still trying to figure out what it means but glad they are not fighting ...Gollum seems to be very gentle....even when i am feeding them....

Anyway, picked up the huge cage.....Gollum must be very happy to have a bigger space now as I believe he never had that kind of space to run around....


Added on April 9, 2007, 11:38 amcrazymouse: thanks for the suggie food....Frodo and Eowyn seems to like it very much except Gollum....guess he never tried food like this before as i was told that Gollum was on Apple and Koa Chi diet last time when he was being used for breeding purpose in the pet shop.....will see whether he will try on it again tonight....now he can't get enough of crickets and worms....

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Anyway, I picked up the cage on Sunday and have to wash first at my parent's house before i bring it back to my apartment.....it is 180cm tall.....Gollum, Frodo and Eowyn had trouble getting use with the big cage last night......hehehe.....hissing here and there.....must be calling each other..... doh.gif
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Oh my new critters! So cute! Always so nice to see new faces.

Cheaka,

Where are you getting the eucalptus tree? Thinking of getting a natural plant for my critters. They look pretty bored in their cage. And I can't let them run on me all the time because I am hardly home and also because I am higly allergic to their scratches/piss. But I love carrying them about with me after I get back from work wub.gif

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Cheaka,

Where are you getting the eucalptus tree? Thinking of getting a natural plant for my critters. .
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Cheaka, wahh all crammed into one pouch blink.gif Good lar rclxms.gif Hehehe smile.gif Take pix, cammed suggie tongue.gif

Crazymouse, yeah, I sms'd you on Saturday, no wonder la no reply smile.gif

Alie, introducing 2 suggies got technique, I find the info link and let you know smile.gif Not hard lah, shud be ok. If male & female, a bit more easier smile.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 9 2007, 08:10 PM)
Cheaka, wahh all crammed into one pouch blink.gif Good lar rclxms.gif Hehehe smile.gif Take pix, cammed suggie tongue.gif

Crazymouse, yeah, I sms'd you on Saturday, no wonder la no reply smile.gif

Alie, introducing 2 suggies got technique, I find the info link and let you know smile.gif Not hard lah, shud be ok. If male & female, a bit more easier smile.gif

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it's like those bas mini a.k.a. bas ikan sadin ..if all three can sleep in the same sleeping pouch, bonding pouch also no problem ...arrghh jelousnyer !! hahaha

and cheaka.. do update me with the cage door pictures yaa . i need some ideas. and yes the mesh is expensive. it's about rm8 per feet. it rather expensive and i would say that u get super best price for your new cage. rclxm9.gif

hun, how does kiah go into the hamster cage? don't have a lid ? hmm.gif

p/s: my chika exploring the living room and i think she just found a nice place to sleep. right above the curtain. i wanna get her back into the pouch pun susah. haih .. call her name, she just stare back at me, iqnoring it and back to sleep. sweat.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 9 2007, 10:00 PM)
Ohhh... maybe that day line cacat. I really didn't get any sms from you  tongue.gif

Kiah is now playing hide and seek with my dog sweat.gif I wonder will she play wrestling again with my hammie or not? Hahaha....
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Hun, I'll sms you later, basically it's about the mix smile.gif Need one asap tongue.gif

CFP, RM8 per feet, so expensive meh? Where you asked? I'll try and ask around, if got reasonable one, wanna do a DIY cage project together? smile.gif

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ColdFusionPower: Here's how the door look like upclose....looks a bit complicated...but it seems okay to me....maybe you will have a better idea on how to make it more neater....




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Cheaka, wahh all crammed into one pouch blink.gif Good lar rclxms.gif Hehehe smile.gif Take pix, cammed suggie tongue.gif
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Frodo and Eowyn is still very shy....they will only come out to makan or else wil be hiding in the coconut .....here's a picture i managed to snap last night.....

Eowyn(female) seems to be very active and hungry all the time..compared to Frodo and Gollum....is it common for female to be more active and hungry than the male???


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Female + Hungry = Pregnant??

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This morning...Gollum and Frodo were sleeping in the coconut together where Eowyn(female) sleeping alone in the t-shirt.... doh.gif
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Hehe, not scaring you, just what if... tongue.gif

I wash Iggy's pouch every one or two weeks, or when it seems to be yellowish... Funny it doesn't smell, but just turns yellowish...

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Hehe, not scaring you, just what if... tongue.gif
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One thing i noticed....Gollum still as cool as he is....Frodo is slowly behaving like Gollum...and Eowyn is always the one wake up first and makan first....She also makes a lot of noise like hissing and barking....she barks a lot at night by herself...like she sees something.... unsure.gif



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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 10 2007, 12:03 PM)
CFP, RM8 per feet, so expensive meh? Where you asked? I'll try and ask around, if got reasonable one, wanna do a DIY cage project together? smile.gif
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KP, what material u wanna use for the frame ? i vote for pvc tubing 15mm. they are quite strong and can easily be dismantel. the corner attachment i have to modified because there's no 3 way corner connector. i have a heater gun. so it can melt some of the plastic. it gonna be flex.gif STRONGGGG !

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ColdFusionPower: Here's how the door look like upclose....looks a bit complicated...but it seems okay to me....maybe you will have a better idea on how to make it more neater....
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u r lucky lar . got 3 glider summore ..after this i wanna buy another one also lah .. so how arr ? two girls and 1 boy ? hahaha .. disaster waiting to happend

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sure sure ... i will try to find cheaper one. nylon mesh is better but not strong enough to hold hanging stuff .

KP, what material u wanna use for the frame ? i vote for pvc tubing 15mm. they are quite strong and can easily be dismantel. the corner attachment i have to modified because there's no 3 way corner connector. i have a heater gun. so it can melt some of the plastic. it gonna be  flex.gif STRONGGGG !
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Nylon mesh can make it a portable one. But how to sew only lar...

Yeah, PVC tubing is good, no wood, cuz they'll absorb pee and the suggies can chew on it. If you can make the 3 way corner than good lar, mmg takde jual tu except for the T one.

Hmm, if use the PVC mesh, is there anyway to make it portable? Like can assemble and dissemble, plus easy storage?

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Hi guys, I'm Jason . I been reading the post from V2 , damn tired and it really takes me alot time to read it.. I din even spent this much time on my studies.. I'm really interested in rearing SG, But i think not that fast.. Currently , have only 1 Bearded Dragon .. But 1 thing to tunjuk from u guys , did u all SG owner travel alot ? Coz I quite often, which is not really often to travel. I always need to carry my 2 feet tank all the way to my home town, but of coz by car la.. if not, doh.gif doh.gif headache..

But now , straight away get another 3 feet tank to place at my home town.. its damn much convenient rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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Nylon mesh can make it a portable one. But how to sew only lar...

Yeah, PVC tubing is good, no wood, cuz they'll absorb pee and the suggies can chew on it. If you can make the 3 way corner than good lar, mmg takde jual tu except for the T one.

Hmm, if use the PVC mesh, is there anyway to make it portable? Like can assemble and dissemble, plus easy storage?

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if using PVC mesh, its still can be portable but will take more space if use nylon mesh.

i'm still thinking about sewing the nylon to the zipper. i have an idea but dunno it will work or not. the frame still gonna be the same but the tubing will be cut in half so the end of each nylon mesh is put inside the pvc tubing. but this will lead to a new problem.

this will work beautifully but at each corner near the connector ? will have an empty space. use cable tied for the corners ? i will try to make a small scale of the cage this week. stay tune !! thumbup.gif


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Hi guys, I'm Jason .did u all SG owner travel alot ? Coz I quite often, which is not really often to travel.
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Hi guys, I'm Jason . I been reading the post from V2 , damn tired and it really takes me alot time to read it.. I din even spent this much time on my studies.. I'm really interested in rearing SG, But i think not that fast.. Currently , have only 1 Bearded Dragon .. But 1 thing to tunjuk from u guys , did u all SG owner travel alot ? Coz I quite often, which is not really often to travel. I always need to carry my 2 feet tank all the way to my home town, but of coz by car la.. if not,  doh.gif  doh.gif headache.. 

But now ,  straight away get another 3 feet tank to place at my home town.. its damn much convenient  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

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if using PVC mesh, its still can be portable but will take more space if use nylon mesh.

i'm still thinking about sewing the nylon to the zipper. i have an idea but dunno it will work or not. the frame still gonna be the same but the tubing will be cut in half so the end of each nylon mesh is put inside the pvc tubing. but this will lead to a new problem.

this will work beautifully but at each corner near the connector ? will have an empty space. use cable tied for the corners ? i will try to make a small scale of the cage this week. stay tune !!  thumbup.gif
Hi jason ..  err i do sometimes travel and sugar are easy to bring anywhere since they are small and some ppl call them Pocket Pet. i always bring my sugar glider everytime i go out or doing chores around the house.
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waaaaah lao sooooo freakingish long din log in here dee wieh become V3 dee wah lao eh!!...anwyways how are u guys punya gliders doing???..my gliders are doing fine gonna up load new photos of them dee


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You load it as attachment in LYN.... or you load it into a photo album/host like photobucket or image shack and link the page.
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new picture of chika .. it seem that chika beens soo active these days .. and the weird thing is .. she wakes up like 2-3am and still up at 11am ! .. okay . maybe a few short nap .. but out of her normal sleep time .

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No la , I'm jst travel from kl - Melaka only.. So do they really need to live in cage?? Coz if they really need that , then i might jst think twice b4 getting them , if not , try not to go back to home town .. Or worst come to worst , bring the cage along (get a not-so-big cage) sweat.gif sweat.gif ..

1 thing to know , how much u guys paid for the initial cost? ( including cage , the coconut house, pouch, ... etc) .. I got my BD on Dec last year, it cost me around Rm 400 ... Pocket straight away bocor cry.gif cry.gif I jst worried the initial cost, the maintence should be alright.. Oh ya , 1 more thing, regarding the calsium and vitamin stuff, can it share with my BD's 1 ( JXL-Micro calsium , Vit) ? The SG can share the worms and cricket with my BD.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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i only put them in the cage at night. morning, roam around or in the pouch. SG cage must be 3ft tall at least, 2 feet wide. buy those Flexrarium lar . easy to open and bring when travelling.

my cost would be RM150 when i first started. now must cost more laa . hahaha ..

i don't know about the vitamin,calcium stuff. maybe other members can help you .
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CFP, I've done a rough sketch of the PVC frame, need to scan then I'll post it up thumbup.gif I found a way to escape using heat gun and making the 3 way connector tongue.gif

Hi jason, welcome smile.gif

Having a suggie and traveling is no biggie, well, by land ofcourse smile.gif You can take them almost anywhere using a pouch because they sleep most of the day. You will only need a cage or enclosure once you reach your destination, and there are many portable types available. Even a normal cage can be unassembled and folded when travelling, just that it's a little bulky smile.gif However, the Flexarium is the best enclosure for travelling and as a temporary set up while you are on the go. Once unassemble it is pretty handy to carry around and ppl won't even know that it is a cage smile.gif

As usual lah, initial cost when getting a new pet, can burn a hole in your pocket, but that's why research is important. If you can get all the info, and find all the stuffs needed for a suggie at a reasonable price, you and your suggie can definitely be happy smile.gif Basically it can range from RM350 above (including suggie).

As for the vitamin & calcium part, I'm not so sure, better let Hun handle that tongue.gif

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CFP, I've done a rough sketch of the PVC frame, need to scan then I'll post it up thumbup.gif I found a way to escape using heat gun and making the 3 way connector tongue.gif
really ? YAY ! rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif rclxms.gif
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Okay, here's the sketch...

Hope you can see what I mean. We substitute the 3 way connecter with an elbow and a T connector. One side of the frame will not be aligned with the other. But this way, if you rise the PVC wire mesh a bit, follow the front level, you can put a tray underneath your frame icon_idea.gif

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Nanti I try skecth with the mesh on... A bit difficult, takut look messy and confusing tongue.gif

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oh .. like that ... great idea KP ! nice work !

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juz wondering guys... can suggie be kept in aircond room...?
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i think so .. i keep my a/c between 25-26c
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is 22 too cold for them...?
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err. dunno .. let other ppl answer that one ..
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QUOTE(jason_killer @ Apr 10 2007, 11:45 PM)
No la , I'm jst travel from kl - Melaka only.. So do they really need to live in cage?? Coz if they really need that , then i might jst think twice b4 getting them , if not , try not to go back to home town .. Or worst come to worst , bring the cage along (get a not-so-big cage)  sweat.gif  sweat.gif ..

1 thing to know , how much u guys paid for the initial cost? ( including cage , the coconut house, pouch, ... etc) .. I got my BD on Dec last year, it cost me around Rm 400 ... Pocket straight away bocor  cry.gif  cry.gif I jst worried the initial cost, the maintence should be alright.. Oh ya , 1 more thing, regarding the calsium and vitamin stuff, can it share with my BD's 1 ( JXL-Micro calsium , Vit) ? The SG can share the worms and cricket with my BD..  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Use travelling cages loh. Many websites have said that if you travel short term like a few days only, you can use a hamster cage as a travelling cage for them. Personally, I like the Flexarium better... you can get that at Pet Safari or Pets Wonderland petstores, RM100 can get the smallest one. Easy to assemble whenever you wanna use.

Well... the cost.... hahaha..... I list down then you calculate lah.

Glider (1 pair Rm600, each would be RM300 onwards) - Always get joeys, easier to train and bond
Permanent tall bird cage - RM100
Cage accessories - leave aside around RM60 for it
Food bill monthly only Rm20 roughly.
Branches you can always get it for free but must check if the tree is safe since some trees are poisonous
Pouch, RM20 to Rm30 depending on how many you get

After that, monthly only RM20 only.... not bad also hahaah...

SG can eat mealworms and crickets. As for Vitamin and Calcium, it has to be pure calcium that has no phosphorus and high in vit D3. Vitamin, cannot use too much since it can cause smelly urine.

Most SG here get their vitamin and calcium from my glider food heheh... so they no need to worry about calcium and vitamin supplements.


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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 11 2007, 11:47 AM)
Okay, here's the sketch...

Hope you can see what I mean. We substitute the 3 way connecter with an elbow and a T connector. One side of the frame will not be aligned with the other. But this way, if you rise the PVC wire mesh a bit, follow the front level, you can put a tray underneath your frame icon_idea.gif

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Nanti I try skecth with the mesh on... A bit difficult, takut look messy and confusing tongue.gif

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juz wondering guys... can suggie be kept in aircond room...?
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yeah. KP idea was great. saves a lot of time fabricate the 3 corner one.will get some materials today ..

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Most SG here get their vitamin and calcium from my glider food heheh... so they no need to worry about calcium and vitamin supplements.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 11 2007, 12:06 PM)
Use travelling cages loh. Many websites have said that if you travel short term like a few days only, you can use a hamster cage as a travelling cage for them. Personally, I like the Flexarium better... you can get that at Pet Safari or Pets Wonderland petstores, RM100 can get the smallest one. Easy to assemble whenever you wanna use.

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Aii, don't lar use hamster cage even when travelling, kesian them... Yeah, Flexarium 22 gallon also can lar if travel short term...

Hun, the DIY cage/frame cannot sell lar, not worth the effort to do it... However, glider owners are welcome to use the idea and DIY themselves. Even better, they can decide on how big they want it to be smile.gif If you wanna make a bigger one, to make it sturdier, just add more PVC tubing, like across each side. This can easily be added with the T connector smile.gif

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 11 2007, 12:14 PM)
yeah. KP idea was great. saves a lot of time fabricate the 3 corner one.will get some materials today ..
it's look like someone try to get another new customer ...  brows.gif . but don't forget about mine ar today ! my glider need ur nutrious,delicious glider food !  thumbup.gif
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LOL.... not getting new customer mah heheh... just say a good glider mix has all the nutritional needs in it hehehehe...

Yah, yours is ready. I might be abit late coz waiting for hamster9 to come to my place heheheh.... sooooo.... you wait a bit lah LOL.... should be there before 2pm lah coz I will take a taxi from KJ station.

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Aii, don't lar use hamster cage even when travelling, kesian them... Yeah, Flexarium 22 gallon also can lar if travel short term...

Hun, the DIY cage/frame cannot sell lar, not worth the effort to do it... However, glider owners are welcome to use the idea and DIY themselves. Even better, they can decide on how big they want it to be smile.gif If you wanna make a bigger one, to make it sturdier, just add more PVC tubing, like across each side. This can easily be added with the T connector smile.gif

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Dunno lah, I was reading some SG websites on travelling last time and it mention hamster cages.... maybe for those SG who are really bonded.

If I have time, I don't mind DIY.... just don't have time now hahahah....

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Oh wow I can't wait to see how that looks. Maybe once you guys have some experience in building a small cage, a much bigger one can be built. I would like my SGs to have lots of playroom. Ganbate! thumbup.gif
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a bit late ar ? no worries .. i can browse around the PS for my new robos stuff . YAY !
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Hahaha... ok... I will also need to go PLC later heheheh.... but it would be later in the day. So enjoy shopping first, when I sampai I'll give you a call.
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@sugre :

lot of playroom, just let it out la .. like kiah . hun's room is kiah's cage. hun's stuff is kiah's toys . hun is kiah's mama .

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Hahaah... everything is Kiah's... even my hamster LOL....
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Haha, I very itchy to do the DIY cage, but I already have one... Mebbe I do one, take pixs step by step for ppl to follow smile.gif Hahaha...

Yeah, Kiah so lucky got big playroom tongue.gif

Ehh, CFP you got another glider already ahh? Noticed on your siggie says chika and aiko???

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Eh... yah wor.... chika and Aiko.... new one?
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As usual lah, initial cost when getting a new pet, can burn a hole in your pocket, but that's why research is important. If you can get all the info, and find all the stuffs needed for a suggie at a reasonable price, you and your suggie can definitely be happy smile.gif Basically it can range from RM350 above (including suggie).

As for the vitamin & calcium part, I'm not so sure, better let Hun handle that tongue.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 11 2007, 12:06 PM)
Use travelling cages loh. Many websites have said that if you travel short term like a few days only, you can use a hamster cage as a travelling cage for them. Personally, I like the Flexarium better... you can get that at Pet Safari or Pets Wonderland petstores, RM100 can get the smallest one. Easy to assemble whenever you wanna use.


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it's look like someone try to get another new customer ...  brows.gif . but don't forget about mine ar today ! my glider need ur nutrious,delicious glider food !  thumbup.gif
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Ya, i know that .. She really good in that , always try to promote her's mix to the NEWBIE whistling.gif . Maybe there's 1 day , her mix will be available to get at Carefour or Giant ... hahaha smile.gif smile.gif
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jason_killer : I did travel with my Gollum in the pouch when we are in the car...then when check in hotel..I just let Gollum out roam around the hotel room......leave my smelly t shirt near the pouch and some food and water..... icon_idea.gif .... or you can buy those laundry basket.....foldable ones...i got mine from ACE hardware for RM 5 i think.....easy to carry around also....


Added on April 11, 2007, 3:15 pmKP: nice drawing.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif the frame looks a bit like the cage i got...not too sure how much carrefour or giant selling that cabinet...might be cheaper to get there than getting the material yourself..... unless you are looking to have a smaller ones....

ColdFusionPower: will try to get picture with the door open....will need your advice if you have a more neater way of doing it...as i really don't like the current design..haha....a lot of section to buka to open the door.... hmm.gif hmm.gif


Here's some i found on the net of the frame you can look for....ikea one a bit expensive but wooden loh...should be more stable...as compared to the PVC tubes frame from the storage wardrobe cabinet....


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i like the plastic covered one .. if can find one and price is ok, better buy those . anyone know the price here ?


Added on April 11, 2007, 5:12 pmi do have some ideas on the door but need to see ur cage first la . then baru the idea comes more faster ..

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CFP, those plastic covered cupboard are around RM50 above each, but the frames are not PVC tubes, they are steel and sooner or later they'll get rusty... As for the IKEA shelf, wood not recommended as they will absorb pee that will make cleaning difficult plus the suggies will chew on the wood which might be harmful to them.

I found a site where she has done her DIY cage using PVC tube frame, almost similar to the frame I sketched.

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I have seen they have in pvc tubes before....abit fragile if it is being use for clothes hanging....but should be suitable as a cage.....will see if i spot any for sale around my area....

then again...maybe that's why they now use steel pipes because the pvc tubes not strong??? hmm.gif

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whoahh ! very nice la ..what's her URL ?
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whoahh ! very nice la ..what's her URL ?
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eh .. nice la .. much simple and less Tees and Elbows, pipes . save money !!! but what the heck is a J-Clip ? never seen it before . we use cable tied only lar like this ..


she should use a better hosting la. so many ppl view and exceed transfer limit already ..now i cannot see a couple pictures. refresh , suddenly site unavailable pulak .. hishh ..
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Oh yeah, her website loading very difficult and I couldn't trackback when I wanted to get the address, tho I've copied some pix in my folder...

I think the J clip can find at the hardware store, mebbe gotta get the pix or cari sendiri lor... Or else the zip ties should be able to hold it as good as the J clip smile.gif

If you wanna make it sturdier, even using PVC tubes, as I've mentioned before, add two more side bars to the frame only.


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so lets do it ! KP u first ! hahaha i no money lar .. wanna buy two robos hamster tonight .. tongue.gif

did u get all the picture ? can send it to me ?

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Hi, I would like to buy a stainless steel cage. any recommend? their wee-wee is destroying the cage and the plastic base is very smelly. How much does it usually cost? If u guys can tell me where to get one wit good price I'll be gratefull !!!
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Hi, I would like to buy a stainless steel cage. any recommend? their wee-wee is destroying the cage and the plastic base is very smelly. How much does it usually cost? If u guys can tell me where to get one wit good price I'll be gratefull !!!
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hahaha .. promote !

btw, chika like to go out more often now. sleeping, put her in sleeping pouch, she wanna go out and climb to my back and stay there. afraid she will jump la .. have to move around and after 5-10 minutes, she go back to the pouch. if not satisfied sitting there yet, she will crab ... normal arr ?

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Kiah poo'ed on me!!
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i got few questions...

a. which is better, keep them single or in pair?

b. if kept single and later wanna get companion;
i. will the introduction be so difficult?
ii. which intro is better male to female or female to male?
iii. should the intro been done between same age/size or different age/size also can?

c. we can easily indentify the toilet spot of crawling animals like hamster, gerbils, rat and even rabbit (it hops not crawls... biggrin.gif ), so how can we do that on suggie (coz it climbs also), do they pee & poo all around the cage?

d. do they chew like nobody business like hamsters & gerbils?

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i got few questions...

a. which is better, keep them single or in pair?

b. if kept single and later wanna get companion;
    i. will the introduction be so difficult?
  ii. which intro is better male to female or female to male?
  iii. should the intro been done between same age/size or different age/size also can?

c. we can easily indentify the toilet spot of crawling animals like hamster, gerbils, rat and even rabbit (it hops not crawls... biggrin.gif ), so how can we do that on suggie (coz it climbs also), do they pee & poo all around the cage?

d. do they chew like nobody business like hamsters & gerbils?

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Keeping as a pair is better if you cannot give full commitment. But the best is getting them 1 by 1 first than getting a pair at once. Get 1 first, when the 1st one already bonded with you(normally a few months to bond) then only get another and bond with the newer one just like you did with the 1st.... then after the new one also bonded, then only intro them together for the best results.

You can easily intro a male to a female.... but females do like older males I think... anyway, always must take precaution when intro 2 gliders of different ages.

No, gliders naturally do where they like. I dunno about cages coz mine roams my room, she does it where she likes. You cannot train a glider to pee and poo at 1 spot coz in nature, they just do it anywhere they like.

They do chew, but not as bad as gerbils and hamsters.

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 12 2007, 11:54 AM)
No, gliders naturally do where they like. I dunno about cages coz mine roams my room, she does it where she likes.
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Females do not stink... LOL.... the pee she will normally do it on my table or newspaper on the floor.... but poo she does it everywhere, so every day I must hunt for poo to clean. She is ok. The poo don't stink.... the pee a bit musky but ok lah. Not as bad as hamsters.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 12 2007, 12:15 PM)
Females do not stink... LOL.... the pee she will normally do it on my table or newspaper on the floor.... but poo she does it everywhere, so every day I must hunt for poo to clean. She is ok. The poo don't stink.... the pee a bit musky but ok lah. Not as bad as hamsters.
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Sometimes my Kiah chews my drawer coz she wants to go in to sleep.. but no, she won't chew other stuff.... She will more like wanna chew my ear and my hair and toes than other things LOL.
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Oh yeah them suggies are rascals. I support Hun's explanation in getting them one at a time, but I would suggest keeping them in a pair. They are so sweet together. Sleep together, play together, eat together.

CFP: Crazy ar suggest that I let the SGs roam free around the room when I am not around? They are so naughty! I would not have anything to own when I get to my room. As it is Roscoe wants to taste and eat everything he picks up. Scared he will poison himself one day. Plus I most probably be sick with worry, wondering what they are up to.... so better for them to stay in the cage when I am not there.
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QUOTE(Sugre @ Apr 12 2007, 12:23 PM)
Oh yeah them suggies are rascals. I support Hun's explanation in getting them one at a time, but I would suggest keeping them in a pair. They are so sweet together. Sleep together, play together, eat together.

CFP: Crazy ar suggest that I let the SGs roam free around the room when I am not around? They are so naughty! I would not have anything to own when I get to my room. As it is Roscoe wants to taste and eat everything he picks up. Scared he will poison himself one day. Plus I most probably be sick with worry, wondering what they are up to.... so better for them to stay in the cage when I am not there.
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Yah, the best is a pair... Kiah will be getting a friend soon, not a mate but a friend. She got identity problem LOL....

Well, roaming free is a risky idea but I trained Kiah that way.... my room has no weird stuff. So far the only thing Kiah likes to taste is my dough key chain and my natural lavendar candle hahaah.... but then they are ok to chew and taste.

A cage is the best, mine don't like cage so no choice LOL.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 12 2007, 12:20 PM)
Sometimes my Kiah chews my drawer coz she wants to go in to sleep.. but no, she won't chew other stuff.... She will more like wanna chew my ear and my hair and toes than other things LOL.
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QUOTE(arraille @ Apr 12 2007, 10:30 AM)
i got few questions...

a. which is better, keep them single or in pair?

b. if kept single and later wanna get companion;
    i. will the introduction be so difficult?
  ii. which intro is better male to female or female to male?
  iii. should the intro been done between same age/size or different age/size also can?

c. we can easily indentify the toilet spot of crawling animals like hamster, gerbils, rat and even rabbit (it hops not crawls... biggrin.gif ), so how can we do that on suggie (coz it climbs also), do they pee & poo all around the cage?

d. do they chew like nobody business like hamsters & gerbils?

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Hello there, well, I'd now recommend to keep them in pairs, no matter how much time you have for them also, they need to have their fellow kind friend at some point soon. Even tho I spent as much time as I can with my glider, really a lot you know, but I still feel guilty for leaving him alone the few hours when I go to sleep... So, I'm getting him a companion soon smile.gif However, I would agree with Crazymouse, on getting them one by one to bond with you, unless they are already cage mates since joey...

Introduction between 2 glider needs to be done properly and with full supervision for any signs that they do not get along. Some gliders can accept another glider immediately and some will take time. Male and female introduction is easier, compared to same gender.

It is always advisable to intro same age gliders. There is always a tendency of the older glider not accepting a joey or so forth. Rape cases can also happen if you put an adult male with a female joey.

It is highly unlikely to toilet train suggies. They go whenever they want, but most of the time they know how to avoid doing it in their sleeping places smile.gif

Suggies tend to chew too, but not as much as gerbils I can say. In the wild they chew off tree barks to get the sap. It also depends on the suggie itself. Personally, I found that my suggies is a bit of a chewer... He has chewed off the leaves and vines in his cage... (Hun, Iggy chewed off the exoterra vines shocking.gif )

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thanks guys... basically now i know what to and not to do about keeping suggie... so now need to do some research and thinking before i can decide whether i can keep them or not... so far, still KIV...
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 12 2007, 01:57 PM)
It is highly unlikely to toilet train suggies. They go whenever they want,

He has chewed off the leaves and vines in his cage... (Hun, Iggy chewed off the exoterra vines shocking.gif )
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haha like mine also laa . she bite the entire top holding section ! when i see, the leaves are at the bottom of the cage ! ... huhuhuhu this means no nylon mesh ! even the bonding pouch mesh she like to bite !

KP , how's the diy cage idea ? going well ?
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CrazymOuse: U have BD rights? Is it the BD shit is smelly or the SG is more smelly ? Then , do SG really poo and pee oftenly ? 3 times a day?

Another thing is . how do the shit look like ? Can someone snap a picture on it? Coz wat i heard from u guys saided, it always "doing biz" on we all , so i jst wondering that let said bring them out , then they shit on us , wat u all will do ? Jst left it for "decoration" laugh.gif laugh.gif or always bring extra shirt when hanging out with them?

Sorry to have so much Qs.. I jst want to know more about them and hope you all will share the experience with us .. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 12 2007, 12:28 PM)
Yah, the best is a pair... Kiah will be getting a friend soon, not a mate but a friend. She got identity problem LOL....

Well, roaming free is a risky idea but I trained Kiah that way.... my room has no weird stuff. So far the only thing Kiah likes to taste is my dough key chain and my natural lavendar candle hahaah.... but then they are ok to chew and taste.

A cage is the best, mine don't like cage so no choice LOL.
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@ jason_killer : sg poop look likes cicak one but a bit bigger but no white colour laa ..

@suiteng : ur sg cleans ur ear ? hmm.gif

@ All : everyone said there are a way to introduce newcomers to the current sg .. care to share ? how about if two female and one male in the same cage ? will fight ?

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 12 2007, 03:12 PM)
@ jason_killer : sg poop look likes cicak one but a bit bigger but no white colour laa ..

@suiteng : ur sg cleans ur ear ?  hmm.gif

@ All : everyone said there are a way to introduce newcomers to the current sg .. care to share ? how about if two female and one male in the same cage ? will fight ?
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CFP, the DIY cage idea, okay, mebbe getting some materials this weekend (but depends on budget too), will update you always kay smile.gif

Jason, suggie poops are like lizard's or rat's poop, rarely smells one. However, smell or not, soft or hard, depends on their diet... Mine if eat ciku or jambu air, the poop will become soft... If they poop on you, you can just pick it up and throw it, unless it is soft lah smile.gif

CFP, introducing joeys should be easier especially if they are very-very young. If adults, some can accept one another, some don't. First off is the let them meet each other at a neutral open place, a place where neither both of the suggie has been to. This has to be supervised all the time. If they get aggressive, seperate them immediately. Next is to keep them in seperate cages, but side by side at about a foot apart, let them see and smell each other everyday. Occasionally, swap their sleeping pouches so that they'll get use to each others smell. I'm not really sure how long you'll have to do this, but some say until you can hear them chatting to each other laugh.gif I guess when you take them out again, they can play around together, means they're okay la smile.gif Then before you put them together, make sure you clean the cage, toys and pouches thoroughly so that there don't seem to be a territory. Some even advise to get everything new doh.gif

Ohh, and I don't think keeping a group like 2 male 1 female or 2 female 1 male is a good idea... 2 males might fight for dominance or over the female, and 2 females, well... Err, how the male to handle? Kahwin 2 arr... Hehehe... Well, normally if ppl keep more than a pair, I see them keeping it with another pair too, like 2 male, 2 female...

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Btw, do remember to if considering getting a glider, do get a joey from a hobbyist breeder. They not only take good care of the gliders well, they will make sure that they're old enough to leave their mommy.

Gliders obtained from suppliers are usually freshly popped joeys that are barely 2 months old. They should only leave their moms at 4 months of age.

And do not rush to get a pair from just anyone. Don't buy adults just because they're cheaper, they're also not tame and will not bond to you. Joeys will build a bond with you when you spend time with it, adults rarely ever will.
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Yup, agree with Reanne. Joeys are easier to tame and bond with you compared to adults and getting from a hobbyist breeder is the best smile.gif

However, I will not say that an adult cannot be tamed, it is possible, but it really takes a lot of time and patience. Nothing is impossible, or else, kesian all the adult gliders out there, ppl don't want plak tongue.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 12 2007, 05:05 PM)
CFP, the DIY cage idea, okay, mebbe getting some materials this weekend (but depends on budget too), will update you always kay smile.gif

Well, normally if ppl keep more than a pair, I see them keeping it with another pair too, like 2 male, 2 female...
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2 males and 2 females ? aiyoh .. like that bankrup laaa .. wahkakaka ...eh where's cheaka erk ? cheaka have 3 gliders right ?

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cheaka's kes, i dunno lar, cuz gollum so cool, don really care... if both males are as active, sure start territory...

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CrazymOuse: U have BD rights? Is it the BD shit is smelly or the SG is more smelly ? Then , do SG really poo and pee oftenly ? 3 times a day?

Another thing is . how do the shit look like ? Can someone snap a picture on it? Coz wat i heard from u guys saided, it always "doing biz" on we all , so i jst wondering that let said bring them out , then they shit on us , wat u all will do ? Jst left it for "decoration"  laugh.gif  laugh.gif or always bring extra shirt when hanging out with them?

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Yah... well, BD is worst than SG. Said before mah, SG no smell but their pee and males are musky. They poo and pee often, more than 3 times lah.

Their shit looks like hamster poo lah. If we kena the poo then take tissue to wipe off lah... what is so hard with that?

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Getting a friend for her might be good laugh.gif I guess that she thinks that she's a dog. Really cannot tahan when she tries to clean my ear sweat.gif
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[quote=coldfusionpower,Apr 12 2007, 03:12 PM]
@ jason_killer : sg poop look likes cicak one but a bit bigger but no white colour laa ..

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Jason, suggie poops are like lizard's or rat's poop, rarely smells one. However, smell or not, soft or hard, depends on their diet... Mine if eat ciku or jambu air, the poop will become soft... If they poop on you, you can just pick it up and throw it, unless it is soft lah smile.gif

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Yah... well, BD is worst than SG. Said before mah, SG no smell but their pee and males are musky. They poo and pee often, more than 3 times lah.

Their shit looks like hamster poo lah. If we kena the poo then take tissue to wipe off lah... what is so hard with that?
Hahaha.... yah.... my ear cleaning glider.... she will clean noses and belly buttons too if given a chance.... and my dog's mouth... ewwww....
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Haha. I still envy you Hun. I'll never be able to have all my dream pets just yet. tongue.gif

Grrr. CPF, you're torturing me. Can't afford to get one right now. Heh. That'll be like having to take care of 3 puppies at once.
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Haha, pichu so cute like that wub.gif Just the head pop out smile.gif

Wahh, you all can still think of getting ferret ah, and other animals... I wish I can too, like Hun, so many of them tongue.gif But to many restrictions sad.gif

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Sorry guys..had been so busy with work...and also with the 2 other SG....seriously i just couldn't believe how active the other 2 is.....my night had been spending staying up playing chasing...ahhaha...

Yesteryday morning...Eowyn managed to escape from the cage... hmm.gif ..my husband saw her in the middle of the living room and she was like terkejut to see him..i think she felt guilty a bit and quickly run to him...ahhaha...i guess she knows as he does the feeding of worms in the morning ...i do the night shift....ahhaha.... doh.gif doh.gif

This morning...same thing again...Eowyn managed to escape and my husband found her roaming around ....hahha..again..she saw him and run to him.....

So how Eowyn is the most active one...whereby the 2 males like buat cool and relax only....ahhaha..

Now i have to make sure the cage is properly secure and when i pick up the cage from the previous owner..some of the locking ledge was missing...gotta really do something soon before i lose Eowyn again..

But serious she is so cute lah...love roaming around...but when see us...terkejut and quickly come back.... laugh.gif

CFP: sorry for the late reply..here's the picture of how the door looks when it is open...


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cheaka's kes, i dunno lar, cuz gollum so cool, don really care... if both males are as active, sure start territory...

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yup...i guess i am lucky that all 3 of them are all "kam cheng" by the 2nd night..

this morning i was thinking to bring gollum out only....once i managed to get him to the pouch....he wouldn't want to stay in the bonding pouch like last time....have to force him in...then i managed to convince him in there...eowyn was like going round and round the cage....macam looking for gollum....frodo pun just chill in the sleeping pouch...

i think eowyn is now more attach to gollum already..so no choice..i pity eowyn...once i open up the cage door..she quickly masuk in the bonding pouch.....then i felt bad also to leave frodo alone...so i called frodo out...once he see eowyn and gollum in the bonding pouch....also went in the bonding pouch....now i have 3 of them in the bonding pouch with me in my office..... doh.gif doh.gif

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now i have 3 of them in the bonding pouch with me in my office..... doh.gif  doh.gif
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How ley?? They not to crowded ker??

Take pix lar Jane, so I can see and decide how big your new bonding pouch should be... Hehehe, if you want lar a new bigger one tongue.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 13 2007, 10:59 AM)
What?? All 3 in the bonding pouch??? doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

How ley?? They not to crowded ker??

Take pix lar Jane, so I can see and decide how big your new bonding pouch should be... Hehehe, if you want lar a new bigger one tongue.gif

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Haha...yup...the bonding pouch is quiet okay..the sleeping pouch looks a big cramp...Gollum is usually at the bottom part where by the other 2 will be on top of him...ahha..

If you can make the sleeping pouch same size as the bonding pouch...should be perfect for 3 of them

banyak susah nak take pic as all of them at the bottom part and sleeping..ahhah...will try...

anyway, i saw this ad for sale in Jusco....not sure the frame is made of steel pipes or PVC..you guys can check it out...

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Ohh, the "almari"...

Thanks. But anyway, 70 bucks is expensive lah, not counting the mesh lagi... And with that size, sure koyak pocket tongue.gif

I'm still going for the PVC tube frame. Plus with that we can decide how big we want it to be, plus I wanna do a tray insert, so have to take into consideration the tray size smile.gif Gonna check out the cost and stuff this weekend.

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@cheaka : owh it open like that arr ... not small meh ? how u gonna reach fo sumthing at the bottom ?

all three in bonding pouch ? muat ke ? i gues they must like it.

@kp : i think la kan .. better just buy the flexarium. the pvc mesh is rm3 (this is the cheapest i can find) per feet. and if you want to built big cage, it gonna cost u alot. the pvc pipes, elbows, tees, cable tied.

it just got me thinking. my sg doesnt stay alot in the cage. why should i make one bigger ?

@ all : how to cut their fingernail ar ? recently, chika like to roam around me and the sharp fingernail are killing me !
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Yeah, I will still buy the flexarium cuz I need a portable one smile.gif

I was thinking to do the DIY cage (if the cost is cheap) for people's reference then I jsut sell it off at cost price for whoever that wants lar...

I will list down all the stuff needed, then go to my hardware store that I always go and ask the tauke to calculate the cost first smile.gif

CFP, cut Chika's nail when she is sleeping smile.gif First time memang susah sikit, slowly play around with her feet while she is sleeping, then slowly cut... Now I find it easy to do already smile.gif I cut Iggy's nail while he is sleeping, I think he knows too, sometimes he purposely don't want to open his hands laugh.gif Anyway, here's a link that could help you smile.gif

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the DIY cage one is not cheap . trust me. i can get a very nice built largest flexarium for same cost .btw, the small flexrarium size similar to our current cage is rm80+ right ?

thanks for the link ! and ..... huiyohh . i afraid la .. but her nails are too sharp !

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 13 2007, 05:04 PM)
btw, the small flexrarium size similar to our current cage is rm80+ right ?
Nope, the RM85 is only 2 ft height(22 gallon), smaller than our cage. The RM110-130 which is 38 gallon is the same size. But you have to remember that you cannot just buy the fleaxarium, you need to buy the clear tray too which is about RM20-RM30 depnding on size.

Suggie nails needs to be cut because they don't climb on tree barks so it doesn't get trimmed. Too long nails also will scratch us badly and cause them to get caught in their pouch or cloths...

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My goodness... How to handle 3 gliders? Hahaha.... but Cheaka, you are lucky that they do not fight.

CFP, cut while sleeping.... easy wan. But now I just hold Kiah and cut.... she won't sleep in my palm anymore but she is easy to hold when trimming nails.
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Total Cost = RM158.80
Dimension = (W x L x H) 3ft x 2ft x 5ft

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That's a really nice DIY cage, CFP. smile.gif
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well .. i can do better but .. still ok lar .. anyway, thanks for ur comment.
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Wow, very good cage. Best lah your glider can have such a big and spacious cage.....
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super big~

vry nice too~ thumbs~ can put many toys for your glider
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CFP : that's really a nice cage, don said can fit in alot of toys, 1 big adult size also can fit into it laugh.gif laugh.gif .. Good job~~ rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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haha .. i also can fit inside maa .. so damn big .. and after i finish doing the cage .. suddenly .... one question pop-up ..

"where the heck i gonna put this thing ?"

hahahaha .. no space to put laaa .. have to rearrange the room .. after this .. haih .. penat laaa
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......will need to do a bit of shopping tomorrow liao...bigger cage....baby food....crickets and worm for Gollum Ah Pek......can't wait...can't wait....i hope my Gollum Ah Pek won't bully this baby Eowyn...
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 13 2007, 02:39 PM)
@cheaka : owh it open like that arr ... not small meh ? how u gonna reach fo sumthing at the bottom ?

all three in bonding pouch ? muat ke ? i gues they must like it.

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after spending a week with frodo and eowyn and now i understand why the previous owner make a small door instead...eowyn is just so active and hyper at night....i guess it is easier to monitor......anyway...have 3 door mah...so to reach bottom must open the bottom door loh....

yeah...no choice have to squezze all of them in there....if gollum missing, eowyn will be panic looking for gollum..and poor frodo is like now being left aside.... unsure.gif

she just roam everywhere in our living room whenever she gets a chance to sneak out while we are not watching...whereby gollum and frodo is very obedient to have stay in the cage...... doh.gif doh.gif

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......will need to do a bit of shopping tomorrow liao...bigger cage....baby food....crickets and worm for Gollum Ah Pek......can't wait...can't wait....i hope my Gollum Ah Pek won't bully this baby Eowyn...
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"where the heck i gonna put this thing ?"

hahahaha .. no space to put laaa .. have to rearrange the room .. after this .. haih .. penat laaa
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U nvr thought of it when u're gonna decide to make the cage?? doh.gif doh.gif That's also 1 of the main consent b4 getting SG. Actually , wat's the minimum measurement of the cage for SG?

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@ cheaka : they are getting along. good good.

@ jason_killer : haha .. i didn't ! but can rearrange the room maa. no big deal. minimum ar ? 1.5ft x 1ft x 2.5ft .. some said 2ft x 2ft x 3ft.

if u want, i can sell u mine ..
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hello..
long time no see..
just wanna update about my gliders here...
sad update..
mi cici just left all of us yesterday in front of me..
i dunno y suddenly she look so weak and then die yesterday morning...
sooooooo sad...
now...i'm worry about cimon because he never live alone...
cici left cimon and her two naughty female twin to me and i'm really worry about cimon rite now....


here is the picture of the late cici..
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RIP to Cici

So sorry bout your lost. For now, remember those good old days, Cici will be with you always. Cimon, it will be hard for him to adapt.... maybe you place the 2 daughter's cage near his cage. At least he can still hear and see them and feel slightly comfortable.
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the cage is side by side..but cimon did not come out since yesterday..i worried he will die too because of starving..i think i have to find a replace but for now i don't think i can make it because lack of money..huhu..any advice to make sure cimon will survive?

btw..i'm searching for a 5 months old male baby and i want to change it not buy it..
change it with one of my female..is that okay crazymouse?

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the cage is side by side..but cimon did not come out since yesterday..i worried he will die too because of starving..i think i have to find a replace but for now i don't think i can make it because lack of money..huhu..any advice to make sure cimon will survive?

btw..i'm searching for a 5 months old male baby and i want to change it not buy it..
change it with one of my female..is that okay crazymouse?
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Hmmm... never experiece such a thing before.... I'm not sure if introducing a male would be safe or not since some adult males tend to fight with young males.... Not all lah but some....

Put a piece of fruit in the coconut for him. Or mealworms, anything that is his favourite lah.
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like i said in the previous post, i just made the cage and don't have any space. so what i do is this ..

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mi cici just left all of us yesterday in front of me..
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thanks everyone 4 ur support..
but this morning...smtg bad happened again..
i dunno what is the problem anyway...
the naughtiest and cutest glider i ever had passed away..
this time is mimi. cici's daughter...
i dunno why..yesterday she is so active untill the night and then i went out...
when i came home i saw mimi dun move and just lay on the floor..
i took her and she looks like sooo struggle to breath and trying to survive..
but at last..she gone...

i dunno what's is the problem anyway..but is it maybe because smtg wrong with the apple or because of the fogging last three days :??

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Har......... I'm sorry to hear that. As I know, there's no problem with fogging coz my gliders are ok after they fog the house. Maybe they are hiding inside the pouch? Well, not sure about baby glider though..
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 15 2007, 02:35 AM)
like i said in the previous post, i just made the cage and don't have any space. so what i do is this ..

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and this is the new cage position and a few stuff i made for her .

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may cici rip ... she's so cute ... no matter. i'm sure that cici will always be in ur heart.
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QUOTE(khairizha @ Apr 15 2007, 08:12 AM)
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thanks everyone 4 ur support..
but this morning...smtg bad happened again..
i dunno what is the problem anyway...
the naughtiest and cutest glider i ever had passed away..
this time is mimi. cici's daughter...
i dunno why..yesterday she is so active untill the night and then i went out...
when i came home i saw mimi dun move and just lay on the floor..
i took her and she looks like sooo struggle to breath and trying to survive..
but at last..she gone...

i dunno what's is the problem anyway..but is it maybe because smtg wrong with the apple or because of the fogging last three days :??

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Wah.... now Mimi pulak... RIP to her.... it could be the food.... what have you been feeding them?
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i give them apple..
that's all...last week i gave them gerber applesauce...
should i bring them to the vet??..
and if i should bring it to the vet..please advise me where is the best place.
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here's Chibi...and how she sleeps... wub.gif

a sugar glider who thinks she's a human.... doh.gif and can even tell u she wanna poop and pee too... wub.gif

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Har? Only apple?

If you've been feeding them apple only, they probably died from malnutrition. They need a lot more variety as well as protein and calcium. Apple does not cover everything. You should have done your research before purchasing them. Now it's not too late to correct your mistake with your remaining glider.
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Whoah, those cages looks freaking huge... what about people with small houses or rooms? how do they keep it?
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QUOTE(khairizha @ Apr 15 2007, 01:25 PM)
i give them apple..
that's all...last week i gave them gerber applesauce...
should i bring them to the vet??..
and if i should bring it to the vet..please advise me where is the best place.
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Wah.. why you only feed apples? Apples cannot ever be the staple diet of sugar gliders. Many people who listen to commercial breeders about feeding only apples have lost their gliders from malnutrition. This was the thing that got me into making glider mix in the first place.

Apples lack in calcium, lack in minerals for health, lack in many key vitamins a glider needs. Apple sauce has less nutrition than fresh apples.... so....

Calories 81
Carbohydrate 21 grams
Dietary Fiber 4 grams
Soluble Fiber
Insoluble fiber
Calcium 10 mg
Phosphorus 10 mg
Iron .25 mg
Sodium 0.00 mg
Potassium 159 mg
Vitamin C 8 mg
Vitamin A 73 IU
Folate 4 mcg

10mg of calcium is super low.... A glider needs a diet high in calcium. There is no sodium in apples and every living animal needs a bit of sodium(not table salt). Apple sauce is ok as a treat but too much is bad since it is high in citric acid and vitamin C.

An all round diet should have complete vitamins, fiber, carbohydrate, calcium, essential minerals, protein.... Even if you give mealworms, without a proper diet, a glider can suffer.

A vet won't be able to help much since it is already long term. You can always try getting a calcium injection but then not all vets would be willing to give since there is not much info on gliders for them and an overdose can cause a glider to be sick. Change their diets and pray that they can last. If you do not change their diet, you may not see them live long and gliders can live up to 15 years.

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Sugar gliders in the wild feed on eucalyptus gum, sap, insects, nectar, and honeydew (an excretory product of nectar eating insects). They will also eat bird eggs, lizards, small birds and other small prey items. This diet is pretty difficult to replicate in captivity. So a variety have food have been fed, in an attempt to somewhat mimic their natural intake and to see what makes them thrive in captivity.
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Amount:

Feed about a half cup a day with fresh water on the side(dish or bottle) per glider.

Fruits/Vegetables - feed 2-3 daily

    * Frozen mixed veggies(peas, corn, carrot, green beans)
    * Broccoli, (cooked or raw)
    * Cauliflower, (cooked)
    * Grapes, Any color
    * Apples
    * Oranges
    * Pears
    * Melons(any kind)
    * Persimmons, (a treat since they are expensive, try an oriental grocer for cheaper ones)
    * Pinto beans, (cooked)every once in a while, not daily; very starchy
    * Rice, (cooked)every once in a while, not daily
    * Potato, (cooked or raw)every once in a while, not daily; very starchy
    * Sweet Potato, (cooked or raw)every once in a while, not daily; very starchy
    * Squash,(butternut, gooseneck, acorn) (cooked or raw)
    * Peaches, Apricots, Plums, Nectarines, Cherries: fruit only, not the pits. Pits and woods of these plants are poisonous.

Note: Feed fresh or frozen, but check to make sure the frozen items do not have added salt.

Protein (pick one daily):

    * Chicken, skinless is best, grilled is best but baked, nuked or boiled is fine
    * Steak(any red meat), well done
    * Pork, grilled with no fat(most pork today is pretty lean)
    * Nuts, not more than once a week, very fatty
    * Cheese, not more than once a week, very fatty
    * Egg, scrambled(well done) with the shell ( you can save the shells when you use
      eggs to cook with but nuke them before serving, many eggs in this country
      have Salmonella )

Supplement:

You will need a calcium supplement. Elwin recommends RepCal with No Phosphorus. Sprinkle lightly over cut up food and mix well. This is very important. If you do not feed a calcium supplement, you risk your glider developing Hind Leg Paralysis or metabolic bone disease, in which the glider's body begins breaking down bones to stay alive. This can lead to a painful death if not treated, and can be prevented by supplementing adequate calcium. .
http://www.sugargliders.org/gliderinfo/diets/elwin.htm


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here's Chibi...and how she sleeps...  wub.gif 

a sugar glider who thinks she's a human.... doh.gif  and can even tell u she wanna poop and pee too... wub.gif 

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How she tells you that she wanna poop and pee? blink.gif


Added on April 15, 2007, 5:39 pmQuickly change their diet and get vitamin and calcium supplements to save them before another glider dies.....

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QUOTE(khairizha @ Apr 15 2007, 01:25 PM)
i give them apple..
that's all...last week i gave them gerber applesauce...
should i bring them to the vet??..
and if i should bring it to the vet..please advise me where is the best place.
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This is really disheartening. Who taught that it would be sufficient to feed only apple?

You can get so much resources on the internet and still you are only feeding apple?

It is good that they are Resting In Peace now coz free from your further torture.

Please be responsible to do research before getting that "oh so cuteeEEeee" pet!!!!!

Only Apple and gerber applesauce = DEATH.

There has been so much information being posted on this thread that could save the 2 lives.

Don't you even know that there are forumers here selling the glider mix that can be the staple food?

I am lost for words...If I were you, I'll forget about keeping exotic pets.

Total lost...

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What material you use as the wire mesh? One superb glider paradise you have there. What about the tray? What are you going to use at the bottom?

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Apr 15 2007, 06:31 PM)
Whoah, those cages looks freaking huge... what about people with small houses or rooms? how do they keep it?
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Apr 15 2007, 08:00 PM)
Please be responsible to do research before getting that "oh so cuteeEEeee" pet!!!!!

CFP,
What material you use as the wire mesh? One superb glider paradise you have there. What about the tray? What are you going to use at the bottom?
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i have to agree with ya on this one. please do ur research when u getting one and more after u got one. may both of them RIP.

err mesh ar .. plastic mesh lor. rm3 p/feet. no i don't have a tray . run out of pipes already .. hahaha ..i just use a newspaper under the cage. will make the tray holder next week ..

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you better make a blueprint out of this design man. Damn hebat!!!!

I take my hat off for what u have done man....

if you can make a platform for the tray lagi hebat man...keep it up man....

What plastic mesh you referring to? Oh....those hardware store issit? superb man!!!!
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Chibi sleeps like that? Wahhh... cute.

How she tells you that she wanna poop and pee? blink.gif

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yeah...and she sleeps like that most of the time....

when she's hungry she will lick my finger...then if no response...she'll nib it.... no response somemore...she'll back

when she wanna poo or pee...she will hiss... if she cannot wait for me...she will climb out of the bag and walk few inches away and poo and pee...and walk in back to her bag... wub.gif

before that i was nagging her away... like "Why you poo inside ur sheep or the bag..later u sleep dirty bla bla bla bla..." and she seems to know what I am talking to her. wub.gif Then she from that time onwards din poo inside her bag.

She wants me to wipe her @$$ after she poo or pee wan laugh.gif
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yeah...and she sleeps like that most of the time....

when she's hungry she will lick my finger...then if no response...she'll nib it.... no response somemore...she'll back

when she wanna poo or pee...she will hiss... if she cannot wait for me...she will climb out of the bag and walk few inches away and poo and pee...and walk in back to her bag...  wub.gif 

before that i was nagging her away... like  "Why you poo inside ur sheep or the bag..later u sleep dirty bla bla bla bla..." and she seems to know what I am talking to her.  wub.gif Then she from that time onwards din poo inside her bag.

She wants me to wipe her @$$ after she poo or pee wan  laugh.gif
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wah .. hamster9 , u have a clever glider. pandainyerrrr

@sangterap : the tray platform is easy to make one but i just have no money left ! hahaha .. have to wait first la. then can make the tray platform, then the tray .

yup. the plastic mesh at any hardware store. find the 1/2" by 1/2" mesh. there are three colour. blue, grey and green. if u want to use smaller mesh also can ..

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Die lor... tonite need to go and buy fruits for the gliders punya mix. Already empty sweat.gif
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FYI,
I gave my gliders mealworm, heinze cereal, fruits, applesauce...they just dun eat egg and chicken eventhough i tried to give them
i dun give them apple oni..but i stated there that i gave them apple only because im trying to find the reason why they are dead.....
i got my gliders since last year and they must be die earlier if i ONI GIVE APPLE .
and sumore cici for sure will eat the twins if she cannot get enough nutrients rite?..
my problem now is oni that there are no more gerber babyfood in the market.
i know about the mix and even try to buy it....

sang terap...thanks for the very good advise.
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Buying food for them is a once a month thing for me to make their mix. Every day will feed fruits available at hand tongue.gif I have not feed them mealworms for nearly a month already. Aiks feel so guilty. But the last time Roscoe was bad and he went to help himsef to all the mealies and in the end it all ended on on the floor and then their tummies hmm.gif

CFP: Your DIY cage is awesome! If I have a bigger space I would not mind buying one from you for my critters thumbup.gif

Speaking of critters. They kept me up all night because they were figthing again. But I think its their mating fight. because they have no wounds from any of the fights so far. Probably Rene refusing Roscoe thats why there is so much racket.
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A question to ask you all....why is Eowyn, Female is so active...always like to go round and round the cage and trying to escape during the night whereby the other 2 males lepak inside the coconut..... doh.gif
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QUOTE(khairizha @ Apr 16 2007, 12:25 PM)
FYI,
I gave my gliders mealworm, heinze cereal, fruits, applesauce...they just dun eat egg and chicken eventhough i tried to give them
i dun give them apple oni..but i stated there that i gave them apple only because im trying to find the reason why they are dead.....
i got my gliders since last year and they must be die earlier if i ONI GIVE APPLE .
and sumore cici for sure will eat the twins if she cannot get enough nutrients rite?..
my problem now is oni that there are no more gerber babyfood in the market.
i know about the mix and even try to buy it....

sang terap...thanks for the very good advise.
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You left a very important thing out.... calcium supplement. As stated in the quote from the website, they also said that calcium supplement is a must.

Apples in 1 week won't cause death so you got no need to blame apples about it. If fruits, what kind of fruits have you been feeding? If you do not state, then we would not know like when you stated you give apples and applesauce.... Your gliders could be lacking of something important in their diet.... which is why the sudden death. It doesn't take a diet to kill an animal in a short while, it goes with time.... as time pass, the body would slowly break down... erm... like smoking. If you smoke 1 cig, won't die rite? But if you smoke 3 packs for a few years, your risk will rise and 1 day may drop dead.....

Now, the most important thing is how are the other 2 gliders now? Are they showing such bad signs? If you feed apples, did you take out the seed? Coz the seed is very poisonous.
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did you take out the seed? Coz the seed is very poisonous.
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yeah very dangerous apple seed. May grow apple tree from inside and the entire tree will wrap your sugar glider up....

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ha? really dunno about this. will they eat that seed?
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Grape seed and apple seeds.... any fruit seed is poisonous.... So if we feed grapes and apples, always take out the seed and peel the skin.... apple skin still ok lah but must wash properly but grape skin, I read somewhere that it is not good for them too. So best take precaution.

Seeds from Kiwi, dragon fruit and blueberries are fine.... but other fruits with seeds like starfruit, also must take out.
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sorry crazymouse..
i dont mean to offence but i just really sad about it..
seriously don't know about the seed is very poisonous..
what i'm trying to tell is that in this week i just give apple and is there any possibility that the apple contain smtg wrong..that's all i just want to ask.
because my gliders died without any sign such as weak or sick sign..
they all being active like usual but suddenly dead..
i really respect u as a very knowledge person that's y i asked u..
about the calcium...is mealworm and baby cereal not enough for calcium?..
because i think before this i was advised not to use calcium powder to gliders and
i cannot remember who told me....
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The best is stick with proven recipe. No point use the glider as guinea pig to test out what food can be taken. By the time you finish testing, not the food expire but the Sugar Glider also expired....

Very easy one....just give glider mix....and then give other proven stuff like mealworms....
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QUOTE(khairizha @ Apr 16 2007, 08:12 PM)
sorry crazymouse..
i dont mean to offence but i just really sad about it..
seriously don't know about the seed is very poisonous..
what i'm trying to tell is that in this week i just give apple and is there any possibility that the apple contain smtg wrong..that's all i just want to ask.
because my gliders died without any sign such as weak or sick sign..
they all being active like usual but suddenly dead..
i really respect u as a very knowledge person that's y i asked u..
about the calcium...is mealworm and baby cereal not enough for calcium?..
because i think before this i was advised not to use calcium powder to gliders and
i cannot remember who told  me....
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You can use calcium powder for Reptiles on gliders, but not calcium supplements for humans unless you are certain the one for humans doesn't contain phosphorus, it has Vit D3 and it is not from milk product.

I know you are sad but we can try to help you find out. I thought you only feed apples so that is why I list down what apples contain. Did you gliders ears stand up or lay flat? Coz the ears tell if they are sick or not.

Anyway, mealworms do not provide calcium. In fact, they are high in phosphorus, which is not that good so that is why we must balance the diet out with calcium supplement.
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QUOTE(khairizha @ Apr 16 2007, 12:25 PM)
FYI,
I gave my gliders mealworm, heinze cereal, fruits, applesauce...they just dun eat egg and chicken eventhough i tried to give them
i dun give them apple oni..but i stated there that i gave them apple only because im trying to find the reason why they are dead.....
i got my gliders since last year and they must be die earlier if i ONI GIVE APPLE .
and sumore cici for sure will eat the twins if she cannot get enough nutrients rite?..
my problem now is oni that there are no more gerber babyfood in the market.
i know about the mix and even try to buy it....

sang terap...thanks for the very good advise.
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Mealworms are high in fat and chitin. Heinz cereal? Which flavor and how much do you give? Fruits? Please specify what types of fruits. If they don't like chicken or egg, then give high quality filler-free dog/cat food as a supplement and crickets. Crickets are higher in protein than mealworms and more nutritious.

QUOTE(khairizha)
i give them apple..
that's all...last week i gave them gerber applesauce...
should i bring them to the vet??..
and if i should bring it to the vet..please advise me where is the best place.


When Crazymouse asked what did you feed them, shouldn't you have said all this earlier instead of apple and gerber apple sauce only?

About the calcium supplements, the ones for human consumption contain phosphorus and some are made from powderized bones and/or dairy products. Gliders cannot tolerate too much lactose and the phosphorus from any source will conter-act with the calcium. Like sodium and potassium. Gliders can suffer from a certain condition and die from it if not given enough calcium.

Reptical/Reptivite/reptimineral can all be used, just be careful of the dosage.

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actually i got calcium powder which i use to feed my sandfish..
i dunno that i can use it for gliders also...
u mean reptiles rite?..
hurmm..about the ears i think it is normal like before..
thanks for the info..
i dun blame u at all...
seriously..
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Wahh CFP, dah siap your DIY cage... I couldn't even go to the hardware store this weekend cuz so bz before rushing to PD...

Anyhow, 5ft??? That's freaking huge blink.gif Chika sure syok sakan tongue.gif

Went to PD, brought Iggy along, since I dun have a portable cage yet, let him free in the hotel room, damn syiok him smile.gif But at 2 am he jumped onto my face while I was sleeping, so shocked that I said okay, enough roaming, have to put him in the closet tongue.gif Lucky the closet design got lots of holes... But I woke up almost every hour to check on him...Then at 6 and let him out again smile.gif He was a good boy biggrin.gif

Ohh, and he barked!!! He finally barked smile.gif Kindda weird tho cuz dunno what he wants... Went to him, open the cage, rub2 his head and body and all, but he was still barking... Ask him to come out, he didn't move but kept on barking... Then he quiet himself... blink.gif

On the other hand, seems like so many thins have happened...

Khairizha, may your suggies RIP. Won't say anything more as the rest have said their peace. Hope your other 2 will be taken care of and be fine smile.gif

Crazymouse, gave Iggy some dragonfruit the other day, he loves it, but eat, eat, then shake, shake his head, eat, eat, then shake, shake his head blink.gif Probably the trying to make out the seeds... Ohh, he doesn't seem to be finishing his mix like before lah... He eats about half only of what I normally put...

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Went to PD, brought Iggy along, since I dun have a portable cage yet, let him free in the hotel room, damn syiok him smile.gif But at 2 am he jumped onto my face while I was sleeping, so shocked that I said okay, enough roaming, have to put him in the closet tongue.gif Lucky the closet design got lots of holes... But I woke up almost every hour to check on him...Then at 6 and let him out again smile.gif He was a good boy biggrin.gif

Ohh, and he barked!!! He finally barked smile.gif Kindda weird tho cuz dunno what he wants... Went to him, open the cage, rub2 his head and body and all, but he was still barking... Ask him to come out, he didn't move but kept on barking... Then he quiet himself... blink.gif

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 17 2007, 09:41 AM)
Wahh CFP, dah siap your DIY cage... I couldn't even go to the hardware store this weekend cuz so bz before rushing to PD...

Anyhow, 5ft??? That's freaking huge blink.gif Chika sure syok sakan tongue.gif

Went to PD, brought Iggy along, since I dun have a portable cage yet, let him free in the hotel room, damn syiok him smile.gif But at 2 am he jumped onto my face while I was sleeping, so shocked that I said okay, enough roaming, have to put him in the closet tongue.gif Lucky the closet design got lots of holes... But I woke up almost every hour to check on him...Then at 6 and let him out again smile.gif He was a good boy biggrin.gif

Ohh, and he barked!!! He finally barked smile.gif Kindda weird tho cuz dunno what he wants... Went to him, open the cage, rub2 his head and body and all, but he was still barking... Ask him to come out, he didn't move but kept on barking... Then he quiet himself... blink.gif

On the other hand, seems like so many thins have happened...

Khairizha, may your suggies RIP. Won't say anything more as the rest have said their peace. Hope your other 2 will be taken care of and be fine smile.gif

Crazymouse, gave Iggy some dragonfruit the other day, he loves it, but eat, eat, then shake, shake his head, eat, eat, then shake, shake his head blink.gif Probably the trying to make out the seeds... Ohh, he doesn't seem to be finishing his mix like before lah... He eats about half only of what I normally put...

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Wah... Iggy went on a holiday heheheh....

Now you know how Kiah jumps on face hahahaha.

Well, maybe Iggy doesn't like the taste of pumpkin.... my friend's glider LOVES the pumpkin mix... so weird....
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Jane, he was just holding the cage bar, looking down, and barked... Lasted like a minute or two... Funny, since the other day was the first time he barked like that, I just received the suncoast newsletter for this month and the topic is "why do gliders bark?", hahaha, haven't read it yet tho...

Yeah, Iggy went on holiday... Mebbe end of this month going back hometown plak, so Iggy goes to Kelantan plak tongue.gif Hahaha...

Mebbe lor, the pumpkin... So worried when saw his bowl still got half the mix every morning, last time licin...

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wah .. iggy went vacation. damn syiok ..i also jelous laa ..


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Aww, Chika so cute wub.gif, why you all nyer glider like to sleep weird2 one tongue.gif

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they have their own special personality maa . each personality have own unique sleeping style ..hahaha
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Jane, he was just holding the cage bar, looking down, and barked... Lasted like a minute or two... Funny, since the other day was the first time he barked like that, I just received the suncoast newsletter for this month and the topic is "why do gliders bark?", hahaha, haven't read it yet tho...

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they have their own special personality maa . each personality have own unique sleeping style ..hahaha
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damn cute lah you guys punya glider....mine all sleep in the pouch....can never get to take picture of them as frodo and gollum will always be hiding in the pouch or coconut until it is feeding time...as for eowyn....she will be running everywhere..i suspecting she is a squirrel glider instead of sugar glider lah..the way she behaves...like squirrel more leh.. unsure.gif


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hmm..will check it out too...as sometimes it really sounds like a puppy barking and i stay in an apartment..just worried that my neighbour complain..somemore i have crickets also...at night will have crickets sound too...


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damn cute lah you guys punya glider....mine all sleep in the pouch....can never get to take picture of them as frodo and gollum will always be hiding in the pouch or coconut until it is feeding time...as for eowyn....she will be running everywhere..i suspecting she is a squirrel glider instead of sugar glider lah..the way she behaves...like squirrel more leh.. unsure.gif
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here got neutered glider meh ?
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No vets in Malaysia will neuter glider here for their testicals are too small.... most likely his bald spot is just not fully formed....
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I don't think they have neutered male gliders here. Cannot find a vet to do it yet. Why don't you ask the prev owner?

Anyhow, I think different male glider balds at different stage... Also I think some can be visible, some may not...

Iggy just lost a patch of his fur on his forehead due to the scented liquid that had dried up and I think it came off while he was grooming and such... I hope his fur will grow back tho...

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Maybe loh......because i was thinking how can a more than 1 year old be still so furry...that time still cannot recognise which is female or male....now slowly can see the colour difference.....the bald part still very very mild for frodo...

Gollum is the most obvious...

Still trying to figure out why Eowyn so damn active and such an explorer.....
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err. coz she is still a baby ?


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err. coz she is still a baby ?
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big appetite .. 10worms for all three or each ?
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Mebbe cuz she's happier??

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big appetite ..  10worms for all three or each ?
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that's why i need to order somemore mix fruit slurp from crazymouse so fast....the container lasted me less than 3 weeks.....
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ofcoz laa . just like their owners maa tongue.gif


Added on April 18, 2007, 5:28 pmeh .. wanna ask sumthing la .. chika sleeping schedule are soo weird now ..

normally : wake up at midnight till 7/8am then sleep

now : wake up at 4/5am till noon and sumtimes wake up again at 3/4pm. after eat, sleep again .

she's eating , drinking . no other weird stuff. and this started to happend since moved her to the new cage ..

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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Apr 18 2007, 01:23 PM)
eh .. wanna ask sumthing la .. chika sleeping schedule are soo weird now ..

normally : wake up at midnight till 7/8am then sleep

now : wake up at 4/5am till noon and sumtimes wake up again at 3/4pm. after eat, sleep again .

she's eating , drinking . no other weird stuff. and this started to happend since moved her to the new cage ..
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like my eowyn and frodo....wakes up at 10pm and stayed up till 10am...still don't want to sleep..

only gollum still on 12am - 9am schedule...

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owh .. bigger cage = diffrent sleep time ?

maybe maybe .. she like to jump all over the cage ..never stay put .run here , run there
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owh .. bigger cage = diffrent sleep time ?

maybe maybe .. she like to jump all over the cage ..never stay put .run here , run there
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arghh chiwek n oshine dun like hun's glider mix added with pumpkin cry.gif they only touch a little, not like usual sweat.gif
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Har? Is it? Aiyoh..... why so weird? LOL.... my friend's damn picky glider LOVES the pumpkin.... how much have your glider eaten from the mix?
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my glider don't like mango .. last time the whole container just half of a teaspoon ..

why now all glider are getting weirder ? aah ? did u notice that hun ?


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All pampered too much hahahah.... but for kiah, she would eat lah.... Mango or Pumpkin.... she will eat hahahah....
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hahaha .. in other word.. kiah will eat anything u give her ...
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Maybe she is used to it hahahah.... but then every mix she would taste.... so if she eats, then yah, I'll only sell heheheh....

But I guess there are some picky gliders around.... so no choice. You guys must tell me what your gliders like and dislike so I can do something about it. So far, I find Mixed Fruits is the safest to go hahahah.
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ya .. chika like the mixed fruit .. but don't like the mango,apple,pear .i guess she doesn't like mango or pear

btw, what is the smoothie ? same as the mix ?

do i need any thing else beside fresh fruits and the mix everyday ? vitamin or sumthing ..

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ya .. chika like the mixed fruit .. but don't like the mango,apple,pear .i guess she doesn't like mango or pear 

btw, what is the smoothie ? same as the mix ?

do i need any thing else beside fresh fruits and the mix everyday ? vitamin or sumthing ..
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Mixed fruits got pear inside... so probably she don't like mango hahahah...

Smoothie is pure mixture of blended fruits...

All the mix sudah ada vitamin and calcium, so no need additional supplements.
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Morning everyone smile.gif

Hmm, seems like another picky glider don like pumpkin tongue.gif

Hehe, what to do, mebbe we all did spoil our glider...

Last nite as usual left a bowl of the mix, but also left a bowl of fresh fruit which is papaya. He ate half the fruits and half the mix... Aiyohh, today his poop so smelly lah... Smell of papaya unsure.gif

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Gollum now also picky...last night give Crickets and Worms..both also don't want..only makan the mix fruit slurp....i am worried....is he sick..?? As he never turn down worms one...

As for Frodo and Eowyn....apa pun makan....except kao chi....think they don't know how to eat......

For 3 gliders....now i give 4 teaspoon of mix fruit slurp, eowyn and frodo will have 7-8 worms + 2-3 crickets each, and i leave 3 slices of fruits on another tray. By the next morning...Everything habis....

Then my husband will feed them 2-3 worms to each of them....

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Wahh Cheaka, sounds like a lot of food... Like buffet like that laugh.gif

I'm not too sure lah, but I am more worried if Iggy doesn't eat the mix, compared to the rest...

Right now he doesn't seem to like the new mix flava I got. So I feed him more fruits and mealworms. But fruits still a bit only, mealworm sure habis...

I think if a glider doesn't eat at all, then that is worrying...

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Wahh Cheaka, sounds like a lot of food... Like buffet like that laugh.gif

I'm not too sure lah, but I am more worried if Iggy doesn't eat the mix, compared to the rest...

Right now he doesn't seem to like the new mix flava I got. So I feed him more fruits and mealworms. But fruits still a bit only, mealworm sure habis...

I think if a glider doesn't eat at all, then that is worrying...

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wah... you guys are like worried moms hehehe... anyway, as long a glider eats something a day then it is ok. Sickness you would be able to see from the poop, facial expression and the amount of sleep and activeness of the glider gets....

Last night Kiah only wanted 2 crickets, normally she will want as many possible but she tolak my hand and ate a bit of mix... On and off Kiah either eats half or finishes, it really depends on her appetite.
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Worried moms = good moms tongue.gif Hehehe...

Just want the best for our suggies biggrin.gif

Question, how do you guys keep the crickets? Thinking of trying 'em, but feel susah lah to keep...

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I was also a worrying mom at 1 time... but after so long now, I understand Kiah's routines... so not that worried hahah.... it's good to be worried sometimes coz it makes us do more research.

Crickets need to be kept in a container with a mesh lid. It needs good ventilation.... the mesh also has to be small so the crickets don't get away.
RM1 of crickets is normally like 25 to 30 crickets hahaha.... to keep them alive, in the container it has to have tissue, newspaper and box cardboard scraps.... every 2 to 3 days, leave a piece of leafy vegie or a thin piece of carrot. It has to be big enough to feed all the crickets. You can also place stale dried bread and dry catfood too. Everyday about a few crickets would die naturally.... it would stink so you should check, take and throw the dead ones.... Smelly ones would attract fruit flies and later maggots appear.

Crickets would get their water from the vegie that you feed them.
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If I get the small plastic aquarium, can right?

How do we take it out to feed? If we open the lid, won't they jump out? Hehe, I feed the mealworms using tweezer lah, geli to hold tongue.gif

Yeah, once in a while I still read up about suggies, refresh memory smile.gif

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Yes, those plastic aquariums with lids can also.... I also use them. Do get the RM7 or RM8 size... coz if its too small, the crickets may eat each other up.

Hahaha... they will jump. So you must be alert. I use either my hands or tweezers. Oh yah, becareful not to use your fingers to catch the head... coz crickets do bite hahahah...
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Aiyahh, enuff lah that Iggy bite-bite me, cricket also bite-bite one ahh... Gee, gotta reconsider again lah... Why oh why don't they have the canned cricket?? Would make my life and suggies way, way easier, hahaha...

Wanna try superworms, but they look too ugly and scary lah tongue.gif

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Eeee... Kiah don't like Superworms... and I don't mind mealworms but superworms are ugly to me.

You can dry your own crickets mah.... You got a toaster oven? You can bake the crickets till chrispy. Then seal it in an air tight container and keep in the freezer...
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Yeah, superworms are ugly things, hahaha.

Aiyoh, my husband will kill me if I bake the crickets in our toaster oven which I normally toast his roti bakar doh.gif

Hahaha...

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Ahhhh live crickets jumping around the inside the toaster getting toasted. Now thats a bad thought. Must kill them nicely first... I also wanted to feed crickets to my critters but I find it kinda icky. Not because I have to hold them but because I have to feed them and weed their carcasses and withstand their smell.....
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Hahaha... of course must kill the crickets first.... erm... crushing their heads would do.... or freezing them 1st before baking.... I got the baking idea from a show I watched before.... chocolate chip cricket cookies... sounds yummy hahaha.

Also, gliders eating crickets may make a small mess... leaving limbs and wings and guts behind haahha...
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superworm ? my hamster love it but chika ? hahaha first time she sees it, straight away jump to me and goes back inside the pouch .. haha damn funny !


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Superworm my hamster and gerbil also makan.... but Kiah.... she was like "What the???" hahaha... chew a bit then she buang.... anyway, she prefers crickets to mealworms. I got no problem coz everyweek I buy RM4 crickets coz feed leopard geckos, tarantulas, scorpions and my gerbils.... gerbils love crickets.
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Gerbils also eat crickets?? I gave mealworm they eat half only...

Hun you got so many to feed, can lar keep crickets stock everyweek. Mine even the mealworms, RM1 can last me a whole month blink.gif

Okay, pix time... This was taken quite a while ago, now cannot even share my cage new set up and proof of all the exoterra leaves that Iggy has destroyed (yeah, habis all my lovely leaves mad.gif ) cuz my camera got stuck and have to send for service one whole month cry.gif

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if diarrhoea is the common sickness for rabbits... and to avoid that we are adviced to limit the watery food intake such as fruits & vege... so, what is the common one for suggie and how to prevent...?

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Have you tried any odour eliminator product?

Look for those natural ones that can be sprayed around the cages and not harm the animal...

I know PureAyre is the best, but we don't have it here sad.gif

Heard of the Delikate small animal odour and stain eliminator is also 100% natural and is available here, but haven't tried yet...

Hmmm, since we're in this odour thingy topic, anyone here has used an odour eliminator for pets that you find works the best???

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Added on April 19, 2007, 2:46 pmCommon sickness for suggies that I know is HLP (Hind Leg Paralysis) and UTI (Urinary Tract Infection).

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Gerbils also eat crickets?? I gave mealworm they eat half only...

Hun you got so many to feed, can lar keep crickets stock everyweek. Mine even the mealworms, RM1 can last me a whole month blink.gif

Okay, pix time... This was taken quite a while ago, now cannot even share my cage new set up and proof of all the exoterra leaves that Iggy has destroyed (yeah, habis all my lovely leaves mad.gif ) cuz my camera got stuck and have to send for service one whole month cry.gif

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if diarrhoea is the common sickness for rabbits... what's for suggie...?
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Sugar gliders are hardy.... but then young joeys are prone to diarrhea caused by high protein food and honey. But glider hide sicknesses easily.... the only way to know if it is sick is studying it's daily routine... if something goes wrong like not eating often or sleeping longer than usual and is less active, then it could be sick.

I treat diarrhea with a Bengy Vitamin Supplement, so far it works everytime for me.


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Have you tried any odour eliminator product?

Look for those natural ones that can be sprayed around the cages and not harm the animal...

I know PureAyre is the best, but we don't have it here sad.gif

Heard of the Delikate small animal odour and stain eliminator is also 100% natural and is available here, but haven't tried yet...

Hmmm, since we're in this odour thingy topic, anyone here has used an odour eliminator for pets that you find works the best???

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Added on April 19, 2007, 2:46 pmCommon sickness for suggies that I know is HLP (Hind Leg Paralysis) and UTI (Urinary Tract Infection).

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I tried before Fido odour eliminator.... wasted my money.... no effect at all....

oh yah, HLP and UTI is also common.... HLP is due to the lack of calcium intake i think.... ahhh.... can't remember already.... must read again to refresh.


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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 19 2007, 02:44 PM)
Common sickness for suggies that I know is HLP (Hind Leg Paralysis) and UTI (Urinary Tract Infection).
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Yah,... so that is why i suggest you bake them hahahaah....
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Sugar gliders are hardy.... but then young joeys are prone to diarrhea caused by high protein food and honey. But glider hide sicknesses easily.... the only way to know if it is sick is studying it's daily routine... if something goes wrong like not eating often or sleeping longer than usual and is less active, then it could be sick.
I treat diarrhea with a Bengy Vitamin Supplement, so far it works everytime for me.

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I tried before Fido odour eliminator.... wasted my money.... no effect at all....
oh yah, HLP and UTI is also common.... HLP is due to the lack of calcium intake i think.... ahhh.... can't remember already.... must read again to refresh.
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1st page got some details on a few common sicknesses.
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Yeah, HLP is due to lack of calcium. Suggies bones are really fragile, lack of calcium can cause HLP. The sad thing is we can never notice it until they start limping which is a sign of an advance HLP stage which can already lead to death.

UTI is due to lack of some supplements.

Aiyoh, Hun, I don't think I can bake the crickets lah... You wanna sell me baked crispy crickets??? brows.gif

I think I'm gonna try the delikate one. Then see if it really works... Susah lah to get good product here, haishh...

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Har? Is it? Aiyoh..... why so weird? LOL.... my friend's damn picky glider LOVES the pumpkin.... how much have your glider eaten from the mix?
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Ohhh... I guess takes some time to get used to it hahahaha....

Hmmm... I got a toaster oven which I am scared to use coz once my garlic caught fire inside.... so imagine... instead of toasted crickets it will become charred crickets LOL.
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iggy is so cute .. err is that the bald spot ?

all leaves abis ? i think chika also will be like that one .. even when i was typing, she is biting the leaves ..
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Yeah, that's the bald spot. But this pix was taken a few weeks ago, now really2 bald already...

I dunno lah, everyday I see a few leaves at the bottom of the cage. Sometimes he'll even pick 'em up and chew, chew again... I just hope he doesn't swallow any of the bits... Habis the leaves rosak already. We want to make his place look nice and natural, he go destroy it... If only can get a real tree, kan better...

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 19 2007, 04:15 PM)
Yeah, that's the bald spot. But this pix was taken a few weeks ago, now really2 bald already...

I dunno lah, everyday I see a few leaves at the bottom of the cage. Sometimes he'll even pick 'em up and chew, chew again... I just hope he doesn't swallow any of the bits... Habis the leaves rosak already. We want to make his place look nice and natural, he go destroy it... If only can get a real tree, kan better...

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Haha, would love to, but wouldn't want to make my Iggy as test suggie tongue.gif

Not all live trees can used, especially if any sort of chemical is used...

So far the ones I can remember that is safe are eucalytus tree and apple tree.

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Rambutan tree is poisonous to gliders.... and I think ciku trees too.... not sure about guava...
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 19 2007, 04:32 PM)
Haha, would love to, but wouldn't want to make my Iggy as test suggie tongue.gif

Not all live trees can used, especially if any sort of chemical is used...

So far the ones I can remember that is safe are eucalytus tree and apple tree.

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 19 2007, 04:15 PM)
Yeah, that's the bald spot. But this pix was taken a few weeks ago, now really2 bald already...

I dunno lah, everyday I see a few leaves at the bottom of the cage. Sometimes he'll even pick 'em up and chew, chew again... I just hope he doesn't swallow any of the bits... Habis the leaves rosak already. We want to make his place look nice and natural, he go destroy it... If only can get a real tree, kan better...

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Oh my..how old is your Iggy...because Frodo is only a bit bald only....i am suspecting Frodo and Eowyn maybe younger than Iggy..... hmm.gif

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I presume that when I took him, he was 6 months because the bald spot was not visible. And it started showing like after 2-3 weeks later, where they say gliders mature at 7 months onwards.

Now Iggy would be around 8 - 8 and half months old.

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Apr 19 2007, 05:06 PM)
I presume that when I took him, he was 6 months because the bald spot was not visible. And it started showing like after 2-3 weeks later, where they say gliders mature at 7 months onwards.

Now Iggy would be around 8 - 8 and half months old.

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Err, that I dunno, cuz the prev owner did say they're around 1 yr plus... If they have been keeping them for a yr or so, don't you think that they are 1 yr plus??

Could be that Frodo doesn't musk a lot, that's why he doesn't really develop his bald spot. Bald spots happened when they musk a lot. The liquid emitting from the forehead dries up and can shed the fur around that area.

Remember gliders can live up to many-many years, do you really expect a year or two is considered old for a glider?? I would think 6 years onwards would qualify as old...

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1 year is not old.... I would say 7 years is old hahaha.... the bald spot, I think every male will develop it at its own pace... like what KP said, see how often they musk....

but are you sure Frodo is a male? Can see his 2 little things or not?
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1 year is not old.... I would say 7 years is old hahaha.... the bald spot, I think every male will develop it at its own pace... like what KP said, see how often they musk....

but are you sure Frodo is a male? Can see his 2 little things or not?
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he is definitely a male lah..got that little dangling thing..hahah...
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oh...then frodo must be some spoiled pamperd SG....but i noticed after seeing him mixing with gollum.his bald spot is starting loh..

he is definitely a male lah..got that little dangling thing..hahah...
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but i noticed after seeing him mixing with gollum.his bald spot is starting loh..
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Wahhh... Kiah went out of my room and got lost in the house.... suddenly I heard her barking very loud and long, go search for her. Once see me stopped barking and she looks calm now.... my goodness, so naugthy hahaha....
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the hay that they use for rabbit...any1 tried it on glider ?
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does anyone glider even bark when they are asleep ? mine just did tonight. heard she barked .. then see in the pouch la . ehh .. sleeping whatt ...having dream ?
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Wahhh... Kiah went out of my room and got lost in the house.... suddenly I heard her barking very loud and long, go search for her. Once see me stopped barking and she looks calm now.... my goodness, so naugthy hahaha....
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Hahaha... then I bet you are one of the very few where your male gliders do not fight... really rare. tongue.gif
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does anyone glider even bark when they are asleep ? mine just did tonight. heard she barked .. then see in the pouch la . ehh .. sleeping whatt ...having dream ?
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Mine makes cute soft snuffling half barking sounds when they sleep. Its so cute!

And the both of them are double trouble. Likes to roam around the room and pushes things over. They especially love sitting in my big sombrero - which I have yet to use seeing how it is a critter hideout when they roam the room.

They are both very smelly too.... but I somehow find the smell comforting - not the smell of the cage (which is horrible) but their critter smell. Hahaha when I smell it I immediately think of soft cuddly grey furred babies. Omg I am incurably addicted to SGs!

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Tell us how you roast the crickets. Won't they jump about and dirty the inside of the toaster?
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CFP, yeah, mebbe they're dreaming... Iggy always, suddenly lift up his arms lah, legs lah, stayed in the position for a while, woke up, blink, blink, then sleep again...

Had a huge argument this morning, my husband mentioned to give up Iggy, I cried like mad... cry.gif I can't imagine not having Iggy anymore, I couldn't even bear the thought... He was being so mean... Then he said Iggy can stay if I change the bedding I'm using - The Woody Pet... Sighhh, I'm sooo mad! vmad.gif

Tomorrow jugak gonna look for a different one.

Hun, the Careline you mentioned at PS, izit the same area with all the other bedding? Didn't see it last time when I went to look for the gerbils bedding...

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HAhah... you guys really want me to try roasting crickets? Hmmm... I can try.... ahahaha...

Careline Litter dekat cat section hehehehe.... The pack is like green and black.

Aiyah, normal lah for people to ask for help around here hehehh....
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They won't jump and explode inside meh?
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Dunno will explode or not hahaha.... I'm wiling to try since I don't use the toaster oven anymore hehehehe...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 20 2007, 02:35 PM)
Dunno will explode or not hahaha.... I'm wiling to try since I don't use the toaster oven anymore hehehehe...
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"Hun's Crispy Crunchy Toasted Crickets"

How much per packet?

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Ya ya..if got i want also......lazy lah to catch all the time from the bucket where i keep them....they get smarter each time i try to catch them...first time..they are like blur blur...once they know each time i put my hand in..the cricket will quickly lari in between the newspaper to hide....
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I experience that too. They'll be like, 'Oh no! She's coming again! Quick, hide!'
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I experience that too. They'll be like, 'Oh no! She's coming again! Quick, hide!'
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This morning Kiah went into my cricket bucket (no cover) and she ate all the left over crickets.... I think got 6 to 10.... LOL... no wonder this morning when I gave her the mix she tak mau lah....

Wah... crunchy toasted crics! See how lah LOL.... see berjaya or not.
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O.o, your kiah hah, seems like unstoppable nowadays =P
Where also can roam one
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What to do? Kiah already experience too much freedom, too many people and too much fun hahaha.... she doesn't even know she is a glider since she will lick people like a puppy.... pampered pet liao.
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I can still remember her trying to clean my ear. Bleh
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Yea, and i'm deeply poisoned by her somemore... doh.gif

Anyway, whave fun with your kiah and good luck on the fried crickets, dont fry until l become cricket bakar.
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Or cricket berapi tongue.gif
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Yea, and i'm deeply poisoned by her somemore... doh.gif

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Eh, that one I scared loh.... coz one time I go and bake garlic in that stupid oven, then the garlic terbakar!!!! Fire!!!! I almost take fire extinguisher to put it out but somehow instinct kicked in and I splash a cup of water into the oven.... but it was sooo scary.... imagine nice fire start in such a small oven.... can give heart attack  sweat.gif
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Yah... the damn oven survived... but my garlic died.... LOL.

From that day onwards, I never use the oven already ahhah. Collecting dust like antique.
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did you overheat your garlic ma? how on earth in the 1st place u put garlic de? kinda special to oven heat garlic for me... hehe
but if thats the case crickets might be easier to get flamed leh. really cricket bakar only u know.
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So far that oven makes damn good garlic bread, crispy bacon and sausage hahah... but I decided to make roast garlic... mana tahu stupid garlic can terbakar inside.

So yah, I'm gonna take a guess that the crickets will be crackle and pop and flames will jump about. That time i must get ready fire extinguisher liao LOL.

The things I would do for you guys punya gliders hahahah.
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this is going to sound stupid asking, but my glider's addicted to them, and its kinda heartbreaking to not give her when she's all over the sealed ziplock bag trying to get some of the seeds... how??? T_T
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hey guys ever heard of alfalfa or ever gave it to ur gliders? recently i saw a shop selling it and was wondering whether it's good for my gliders. according to it , it's high in calcium and provides extra fiber essential to small animal digestive system.

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Pictures of darling Kiah hahahah....

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So cute. tongue.gif

SGs don't usually take alfalfa. Not a good idea to feed. Why does the alfalfa in that bag look so yellow???

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this is going to sound stupid asking, but my glider's addicted to them, and its kinda heartbreaking to not give her when she's all over the sealed ziplock bag trying to get some of the seeds... how??? T_T
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hey guys ever heard of alfalfa or ever gave it to ur gliders? recently i saw a shop selling it and was wondering whether it's good for my gliders. according to it , it's high in calcium and provides extra fiber essential to small animal digestive system.

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Gliders do not eat hay. Only rabbits, guinea pigs and chinchillas eat hay. Gerbils, hamsters, rats and mice would nibble and chew more than eat it. Gliders are fruit and sap eaters, not grass eaters. So hay can cause some intestinal and digestion problems...

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So cute. tongue.gif

SGs don't usually take alfalfa. Not a good idea to feed. Why does the alfalfa in that bag look so yellow???
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Hahah... damn yellow rite? Looks like the Russel straw bedding.
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wah .. nice pictures and caption ! so cute !
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Kiah had fun just now.... sometimes hard to take picture of her enjoying massage coz 1 hand camera and 1 hand with her.... my camera also big camera hahaha...
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i see . but ur picture are very clear lar .. mine now only can give blurry pictures .. geram la ..

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Added on April 22, 2007, 1:28 amupdate : Chika is actually a Chiko ? i just finally can hold and it sit quietly ..issit ? or not ?

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wub.gif you're too cute to be true ... can't take my cameras off you....

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Actually, I made roasted crickets before. It actually smelled damn nice, like roasted nuts. My hams loved them, but I didn't keep them in a proper container, so they 'lau foong'. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Apr 22 2007, 12:44 PM)
wub.gif you're too cute to be true ... can't take my cameras off you....

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Aiyohhhhh... soooo cuttteeeeeeee


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Actually, I made roasted crickets before. It actually smelled damn nice, like roasted nuts. My hams loved them, but I didn't keep them in a proper container, so they 'lau foong'. sweat.gif
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Har? Really?
How did you roast? blink.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 22 2007, 04:34 PM)
Aiyohhhhh... soooo cuttteeeeeeee
Har? Really?
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So cute lah... how can reject such a cutie? Too cute to reject hahahaha.
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doh.gif Poisoned by huns kiah...... doh.gif
Tonight go your house to steal your kiah brows.gif
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Have fun with your kiah la.
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Yah, you will get poisoned by my Kiah.... her darling face cannot resist wan hahahah.
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ April 22, 2007, 1:28 am)
update : Chika is actually a Chiko ? i just finally can hold and it sit quietly ..issit ? or not ?

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It's weird how no one noticed Chiko's balding yesterday. Or perhaps it was cos the sky was getting dark.

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hey.. afta my gf saw this thread, she seems to be very intrested in getting a sugar glider. can anyone tell me whr to get it? and how much does it cost? thx alot..
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See pictures of course cute... but can you and your gf commit? Coz a glider is not easy like hamster or rabbit... it is like taking care of a child or children. A lot of commitment and dedication.

Go Garage Sales to find them for sale.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 22 2007, 11:45 PM)
See pictures of course cute... but can you and your gf commit? Coz a glider is not easy like hamster or rabbit... it is like taking care of a child or children. A lot of commitment and dedication.

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Be sure that your gf knows that gliders tend to poo and pee on their owners. tongue.gif
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Haaha... true... we are their living toilets... last night Kiah peed on my neck.... today she poo poo on my arm.... so.... one must not feel geli when a glider pees and poos on her.... coz if feel disgusted, then a glider is not a good pet choice.

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