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eddyann
post May 26 2008, 08:17 PM

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kinda piss off right now. ordered a second unit of GPS for personal use. last month received it sent via USPS Priority Mail without no problem. now kena tahan by customs. they need an invoice and AP permit. WTF?


Into Foreign Customs, May 22, 2008, 4:23 pm, MALAYSIA
Out of Foreign Customs, May 21, 2008, 12:13 pm, MALAYSIA
Arrived Abroad, May 21, 2008, 11:14 am, MALAYSIA
International Dispatch, May 17, 2008, 11:08 am, NJI
Acceptance, May 13, 2008, 9:30 am, RICHARDSON, TX 75081

weird thing is it should be Into Foreign Customs the Out Foreign Customs right? last time i checked it was cleared the another day it's still in proces by custom. i check for GPS unit cannot find any in the tarif code


UPDATED:

smile.gif Finally after went to custom office, i made some respect argument with the officer. Yes he said need to get AP but the AP is like RM 250? since it falls under telecommunication. Need to go sirim get the approval. after some long conversation with the officer, he just let me go and only "10% tax" . and the tax is off record. Without much choice left, i just paid him 10% tax to him to avoid those 'SIRIM' approval... icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by eddyann: May 27 2008, 05:02 PM
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post May 28 2008, 09:27 AM

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in such cases...i dunno wat to say...

does handphone accessories such as handsfree get taxed??

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post May 29 2008, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ May 28 2008, 09:27 AM)
in such cases...i dunno wat to say...

does handphone accessories such as handsfree get taxed??
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Some yes, some not.

Such as hp pouch, plastic covers... etc. Mainly are taxable.
Electronic parts, some are some not. Some may even require import license.


Added on May 29, 2008, 2:28 am
QUOTE(eddyann @ May 26 2008, 08:17 PM)
kinda piss off right now. ordered a second unit of GPS for personal use. last month received it sent via USPS Priority Mail without no problem. now kena tahan by customs. they need an invoice and AP permit. WTF?


Into Foreign Customs, May 22, 2008, 4:23 pm, MALAYSIA
Out of Foreign Customs, May 21, 2008, 12:13 pm, MALAYSIA
Arrived Abroad, May 21, 2008, 11:14 am, MALAYSIA
International Dispatch, May 17, 2008, 11:08 am, NJI
Acceptance, May 13, 2008, 9:30 am, RICHARDSON, TX 75081

weird thing is it should be Into Foreign Customs the Out Foreign Customs right? last time i checked it was cleared the another day it's still in proces by custom. i check for GPS unit cannot find any in the tarif code
UPDATED:

smile.gif  Finally after went to custom office, i made some respect argument with the officer. Yes he said need to get AP but the AP is like RM 250? since it falls under telecommunication. Need to go sirim get the approval. after some long conversation with the officer, he just let me go and only "10% tax" . and the tax is off record. Without much choice left, i just paid him 10% tax to him to avoid those 'SIRIM' approval... icon_rolleyes.gif
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What tariff code did he use on your GPS device?
I suspect you've been conned by the officer.

I've checked and find out you are quite lucky or the officer is just plain greedy tongue.gif
http://www.customs.gov.my/html/186%20Compendium.htm
GPS devices should have Sirim permit with 10% sales tax.

This post has been edited by bbjslee: May 29 2008, 02:37 AM
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post May 29 2008, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ May 29 2008, 02:24 AM)
Some yes, some not.

Such as hp pouch, plastic covers... etc. Mainly are taxable.
Electronic parts, some are some not. Some may even require import license.


Added on May 29, 2008, 2:28 am

What tariff code did he use on your GPS device?
I suspect you've been conned by the officer.

I've checked and find out you are quite lucky or the officer is just plain greedy tongue.gif
http://www.customs.gov.my/html/186%20Compendium.htm
GPS devices should have Sirim permit with 10% sales tax.
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yes i think abit lucky or otherwise it's a pain in the a55 since it need for sirim approval. some more the item is in JB and i think sirim need to go to Shah Alam right?? i'm still in the dark what kind of item that need an approval permit? so troublesome those AP. why not we just pay 10% tax...end of story
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post May 30 2008, 08:57 PM

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Ok, went to retrieved my items today at POS LAJU BAGAN DALAM, BUTTERWORTH.
There is where you collect your item that got detained by customs on the north region (I live at Sg. Petani, Kedah.)

The items retrieved are cosmetic product from Korea.
For cosmetic you need a notification letter from Ministry of Health to release them.

But for personal use no need the letter but the quantity of the product ordered cannot be more than 1 month usage.
How much is one month usage? Well that is to be determined by the pharmacy person whistling.gif

Mine was more than 1 month usage in quantity but since the pharmacy lady was so nice and in a good mood, she let me go with a warning that next time don't order to much at one time thumbup.gif

The good news was my order was around RM700 in total but no tax was charge.

So I guess, cosmetic in the quantity of 1 month usage for personal use = NO TAX icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 31 2008, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(Shizuru @ May 30 2008, 08:57 PM)
Ok, went to retrieved my items today at POS LAJU BAGAN DALAM, BUTTERWORTH.
There is where you collect your item that got detained by customs on the north region (I live at Sg. Petani, Kedah.)

The items retrieved are cosmetic product from Korea.
For cosmetic you need a notification letter from Ministry of Health to release them.

But for personal use no need the letter but the quantity of the product ordered cannot be more than 1 month usage.
How much is one month usage? Well that is to be determined by the pharmacy person whistling.gif

Mine was more than 1 month usage in quantity but since the pharmacy lady was so nice and in a good mood, she let me go with a warning that next time don't order to much at one time thumbup.gif

The good news was my order was around RM700 in total but no tax was charge.

So I guess, cosmetic in the quantity of 1 month usage for personal use = NO TAX icon_rolleyes.gif
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Most cosmetic items memang no tax smile.gif
Go to http://tariff.customs.gov.my/ type "3304" in the search column.
But yes require import license from Health Ministry.

This post has been edited by bbjslee: May 31 2008, 02:24 AM
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post May 31 2008, 12:11 PM

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Last time i bought RAM frm ebay USA, no tax was imposed coz it's computer part. But i want to know, if i bought corsair dominator ram, which comes together with RAM fan/cooler, is there any possibility that i have to pay tax??

Thanks in advance..
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post May 31 2008, 01:07 PM

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Got question isit tax applicable for purchase item or all import item (which I dont buy it)

A friend send me handphone as a gift but now holded @ Custom KLIA, what should I do now ?,

advise needed sad.gif

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post May 31 2008, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(GuyzNexDoor @ May 31 2008, 12:11 PM)
Last time i bought RAM frm ebay USA, no tax was imposed coz it's computer part. But i want to know, if i bought corsair dominator ram, which comes together with RAM fan/cooler, is there any possibility that i have to pay tax??

Thanks in advance..
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It depends on your luck.
Fan is taxable.
If unlucky your shipment got hold up at custom due to taxation, most likely it is due to the fan. Hence you'll have to convince them this is actually RAM or RAM is the main function.


QUOTE(enCORe @ May 31 2008, 01:07 PM)
Got question isit tax applicable for purchase item or all import item (which I dont buy it)

A friend send me handphone as a gift but now holded @ Custom KLIA, what should I do now ?,

advise needed sad.gif
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1st question: Correct answer is certain import items (i.e. computer parts non dutiable)
2nd question: Find out why it got held up 1st, due to SIRIM permit or duty.
Read up other pages in this thread, import of handphone has been discussed a lot of times.

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post May 31 2008, 05:07 PM

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seem like m'sia custom not updated and the services are lousy

the most important is suck people blood~!!! tax quit high

Remember for thos who import the handphone... Approval permit cost u RM 200 !! fxck!!


Added on May 31, 2008, 5:10 pm
QUOTE(eddyann @ May 26 2008, 08:17 PM)
kinda piss off right now. ordered a second unit of GPS for personal use. last month received it sent via USPS Priority Mail without no problem. now kena tahan by customs. they need an invoice and AP permit. WTF?


Into Foreign Customs, May 22, 2008, 4:23 pm, MALAYSIA
Out of Foreign Customs, May 21, 2008, 12:13 pm, MALAYSIA
Arrived Abroad, May 21, 2008, 11:14 am, MALAYSIA
International Dispatch, May 17, 2008, 11:08 am, NJI
Acceptance, May 13, 2008, 9:30 am, RICHARDSON, TX 75081

weird thing is it should be Into Foreign Customs the Out Foreign Customs right? last time i checked it was cleared the another day it's still in proces by custom. i check for GPS unit cannot find any in the tarif code
UPDATED:

smile.gif  Finally after went to custom office, i made some respect argument with the officer. Yes he said need to get AP but the AP is like RM 250? since it falls under telecommunication. Need to go sirim get the approval. after some long conversation with the officer, he just let me go and only "10% tax" . and the tax is off record. Without much choice left, i just paid him 10% tax to him to avoid those 'SIRIM' approval... icon_rolleyes.gif
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the tax u mean u noe i noe lar...
idiot officer ~!!


This post has been edited by zt_lee: May 31 2008, 05:10 PM
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:40 PM

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hi
my friend send me his used phone as gift, it was state clerl a gift for friends, Igot letter from pos PMK, from the letter mention Iv to get ;

x- invois pembekal atau lain2 keterangan mengenai nilai (I dont have it because im not buy it)
x- permohonan untuk kebenaran mengimport yg diluluskan (borang AP)

I was just WTF because Ive to pay the item I didnt bought, I dont have the invoice and Im not a reseller... this is BS

what happen if I didnt claim the item ? will they return back to sender to item just stuck there ?
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QUOTE(enCORe @ Jun 1 2008, 11:40 PM)
hi
my friend send me his used phone as gift, it was state clerl a gift for friends,  Igot letter from pos PMK, from the letter mention Iv to get ;

x- invois pembekal atau lain2 keterangan mengenai nilai (I dont have it because im not buy it)
x- permohonan untuk kebenaran mengimport yg diluluskan (borang AP)

I was just WTF because Ive to pay the item I didnt bought, I dont have the invoice and Im not a reseller... this is BS

what happen if I didnt claim the item ? will they return back to sender to item just stuck there ?
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If you don't claim they will send it back to the sender.
but I don't know how long that process will take shakehead.gif

and yeah, I think you need to pay for the sirim permit.
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:59 PM

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Im not afford to pay for the sirim, I guess Ive to let the item back tu United States if they can return

waaaaa.... cry.gif

got any idea ? sad.gif

QUOTE(Shizuru @ Jun 1 2008, 11:52 PM)
If you don't claim they will send it back to the sender.
but I don't know how long that process will take shakehead.gif

and yeah, I think you need to pay for the sirim permit.
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:06 AM

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Best thing is to confirmed with the kastam officer what will happend to the HP if you don't claim.
than if they send it back, just ask your friend to bring it with him/her when he get back from from the states.

QUOTE(enCORe @ Jun 1 2008, 11:59 PM)
Im not afford to pay for the sirim, I guess Ive to let the item back tu United States if they can return

waaaaa....  cry.gif

got any idea ?  sad.gif
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I'm confused here. i want to buy a rm400 watch from us. i read someone said

watch is a taxable item(20%) but when i checked here

http://tariff.customs.gov.my/Default.aspx under heading watch there's no tax

at all? which one is true.
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post Jun 2 2008, 08:30 AM

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now i dont worry much about tax. the import permit (aka Sirim) is the tough one. now i dont bother to try import those handphone/iphone anymore. too risky. last time i was lucky, the officer let me go by just paying the tax. if not need to go thru sirim certification and it will cost alot of time and money for it.
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does that import permit also apply for watches then? i thought sirim only for electrical items?
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post Jun 2 2008, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(jie20022002 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:24 AM)
does that import permit also apply for watches then? i thought sirim only for electrical items?
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watches no need AP i think. i think AP needed for telecommunication product oh yes and LED bulb also. mine kena AP last time order LED bulb (so stupid i think this AP thingy doh.gif doh.gif )
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QUOTE(jie20022002 @ Jun 2 2008, 06:36 AM)
I'm confused here. i want to buy a rm400 watch from us. i read someone said

watch is a taxable item(20%) but when i checked here

http://tariff.customs.gov.my/Default.aspx under heading watch there's no tax

at all? which one is true.
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He's bullshiting. Watches no import duty and taxes.


Added on June 2, 2008, 11:37 am
QUOTE(eddyann @ Jun 2 2008, 09:58 AM)
watches no need AP i think. i think AP needed for telecommunication product oh yes and LED bulb also. mine kena AP last time order LED bulb  (so stupid i think this AP thingy  doh.gif  doh.gif )
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SIRIM is usually applicable for products where:-
1. Requires electricity from the main socket. (Hence most appliances operating from dry cells do not require SIRIM)
2. Telecommunication Devices (radio/satelite)

So why SIRIM?

So that your appliances won't short circuit, burn your whole house / whole kampung.
So that your handphone won't interefere with other telecomunication devices.
So that you won't hear what the police are chatting on their walkie talkie.

etc. etc....

It is tedious... YES
It is costly.... Depending on the quantity you're importing. Because 1 permit can use for all item of the same model, and depend on how you apply it, could be used for several consignments (must be same model la).
So if Nokia imports 2000 units of N95, RM250 (sorry not very sure bout the cost) / 2000 = RM0.125 per handset.


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post Jun 2 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ Jun 2 2008, 10:36 AM)
He's bullshiting. Watches no import duty and taxes.


Added on June 2, 2008, 11:37 am

SIRIM is usually applicable for products where:-
1. Requires electricity from the main socket. (Hence most appliances operating from dry cells do not require SIRIM)
2. Telecommunication Devices (radio/satelite)

So why SIRIM?

So that your appliances won't short circuit, burn your whole house / whole kampung.
So that your handphone won't interefere with other telecomunication devices.
So that you won't hear what the police are chatting on their walkie talkie.

etc. etc....

It is tedious... YES
It is costly.... Depending on the quantity you're importing. Because 1 permit can use for all item of the same model, and depend on how you apply it, could be used for several consignments (must be same model la).
So if Nokia imports 2000 units of N95, RM250 (sorry not very sure bout the cost) / 2000 = RM0.125 per handset.
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so can use back the previous AP to import new item but with same brand and model? so is this thing correct?

1. Approved by SIRIM = > Can issue AP. what about if AP only with nothing to do with Sirim certification like my automotive LED bulb last time?

This post has been edited by eddyann: Jun 2 2008, 11:48 AM

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