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greyshadow
post Mar 28 2007, 04:37 PM, updated 7y ago

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Many of us has purchase things online, many from Amazon, eBay, playasia, yesasia and etc...

As a regular online buyer, you should know sometimes your goods will be held by the custom, and require you to pay tax in order for them to release the items.

If such case happened, do you know how much you'll need to pay? or do you need to pay at all?

So guys, here's a useful site that you can refer to in case your items are withheld by the custom. You should find out in advance first how much you need to pay, and avoid being slaughtered by the corrupt custom officers.

So here's the link:
http://www.customs.gov.my/kastam/

How to search:
Go under the first field on top menu "Customs"
Then select "Customs Duties Order 1996" or "AHTN Duties Order 2004"
Select "Schedule 1" from the submenu
Do a search on right hand column

Bear in mind that not all of the search will end up with a positive result


Here's some of the things I found out from there:
- cameras of all kind like non-digital/digital cameras/video camera are totally tax free (heading 8525), same with camera accessories like lenses or flash (heading 9001)
- Video games console are taxable with 10% import tax (heading 9504)
- Video projectors are tax free (heading 8528)
- Blank CD/DVD are tax free (heading 8523)
- Figurines are taxable with 5% import tax (heading 9502 and 9503)

btw, I still can't find what's the actual tax for movie/games disc.
Appreciate if anyone can find the info and put it here. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Mar 28 2007, 04:41 PM
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post Mar 28 2007, 04:45 PM

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i also can't find it there. their search engine dont even work perfectly.
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post Mar 28 2007, 04:50 PM

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You know lar... gomen punya website cannot 100% harap one tongue.gif

btw, I'm guessing video game CDs could fall under Heading 9504/30
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Other games, operated by coins, banknotes (paper currency), discs or other similar articles; other than bowling alley equipment:
under subheading 10A (25%!!! shocking.gif) or 10B (5% thumbup.gif)


Added on March 28, 2007, 5:20 pmOK!! FOUND IT!! For movies DVD!
Should be under heading 8524/31, Discs for laser reading systems
subheading 10, For cinematographic film icon_rolleyes.gif
subheading 90, Other
and 90A, For use in Computer

TAX FREE!!!




but don't be so happy first, those bloody custom officers could use heading 8524/99, which can charge you 30% tax!!!! doh.gif

I think it depends on how good are you to argue with them your DVD movies should fall under heading 8524/31 and not under 8524/99 wink.gif


This post has been edited by greyshadow: Mar 28 2007, 05:20 PM
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post Mar 29 2007, 04:11 AM

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this is crap! they did not change the law since retro era. all the terms were made for cassete player or cds.

DVD can be play using computer also mah!

well i will try to expose it to the media if they try to be smart.


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post Mar 29 2007, 08:45 AM

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Go under the first field on top menu "Customs"
Then select "Customs Duties Order 1996" or "AHTN Duties Order 2004"

Customs Duties Order 1996 is for importing goods from non-ASEAN countries.
AHTN is for ASEAN countries only.

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btw, I'm guessing video game CDs could fall under Heading 9504/30

Wrong. It is 9504 10 000. Video games. Import duty 10%, Sales tax 10%.

Disc:
Blank Disc 8523 90 100 - 0% + 0%
Disc (software) 8524 31 000 - 0% + 0%
Disc (movie) 8524 32 000 - 0% + 10%
Disc (sound/music) 8524 32 000 - 20% + 10%

The duty formats should read as Import duty + Sales tax.

If you have doubts, call up custom department Bahagian Penjenisan 03-31693749 (Klang division). Ask for Tn. Mustafa. Met him few times, he's a pretty nice guy.

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post Mar 29 2007, 09:27 AM

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thanks bbjslee thumbup.gif
so by right if we are buying video games from PA, then we shouldn't get any tax right? because it fall under software category? 8524 31 000?
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 29 2007, 09:27 AM)
thanks bbjslee thumbup.gif
so by right if we are buying video games from PA, then we shouldn't get any tax right? because it fall under software category? 8524 31 000?
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Video games for computer or console?

Console is dutiable.
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post Mar 29 2007, 09:48 AM

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console games dutiable ar? oh crap... doh.gif
anyway thanks for the info again, at least we know how much maximum we have to pay if our items are withheld by the customs.

So...
Movies = 10%
Console games = 10%
PC games = 0%
Music/audio CD = 30% shocking.gif
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post Mar 29 2007, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 29 2007, 09:48 AM)
console games dutiable ar? oh crap... doh.gif
anyway thanks for the info again, at least we know how much maximum we have to pay if our items are withheld by the customs.

So...
Movies = 10%
Console games = 10%
PC games = 0%
Music/audio CD = 30% shocking.gif
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Well duty and sales tax are not calculated the simple way.
Let me try to illustrate. Let say your cargo CIF value is RM1000 and has import duty 10%, sales tax 10%.

So your import duty is 10% x RM1000 = RM100
Your sales tax is 10% x (RM1000 + RM100) = RM110

So total payable duty & tax = RM210.

So you see, it is not 20% x CIF value. This may seem like no big deal if your cargo value is small. But try to imagine those cargo worth few 100k or more.
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post Mar 29 2007, 12:05 PM

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Guys, ok let say I wan to buy a Tripod from US.
so the price is for example:
tripod- $50.
Freight-$10.

So what? This item will straight away be posted to me? Or it will be stuck at Custom's first? Will they Tax me? Since it falls under the Digital Camera category.
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Mar 29 2007, 12:05 PM)
Guys, ok let say I wan to buy a Tripod from US.
so the price is for example:
tripod- $50.
Freight-$10.

So what? This item will straight away be posted to me? Or it will be stuck at Custom's first? Will they Tax me? Since it falls under the Digital Camera category.
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Going through freight forwarding agent or courier?
If courier, any problem at custom, they'll inform you.
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post Mar 29 2007, 01:45 PM

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tripod should be free from both sales tax and import tax kua...
since it fall under the camera accessories which are tax free
So I don't think the custom will withheld your tripod lor

correct me if I'm wrong wink.gif

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post Mar 29 2007, 06:53 PM

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Disc (movie) 8524 32 000 - 0% + 10%

betul or not, why some forumers paid like 45% as they claimed?


Do they add the shipping cost to calculate the tax? rugi lah like that if they calculate based on the shipping .

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post Mar 29 2007, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 29 2007, 06:53 PM)
Disc (movie) 8524 32 000 - 0% + 10%

betul or not, why some forumers paid like 45% as they claimed?
Do they add the shipping cost to calculate the tax? rugi lah like that if they calculate based on the shipping .
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Can you point me to the forumer? I would like to know the detail as well.

Actually the custom is like a big black box. Same item, Officer A can say this code, Officer B can say that code. So pandai pandai lah, see how you explain to them.

As for your question, YES, shipping cost is calculated. Hence CIF value. Cost + Insurance + Freight. So if you purchase your item at USD20, Insurance USD2, shipping cost USD10, total USD32 is dutiable, not USD20.
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I tried to find the handphone...but can't find a thing... do you know the tax like for this? the phone will comes with Bluetooth...
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post Mar 30 2007, 11:17 AM

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CIF value is the real value.

Item price + shipping + insurance = CIF

CIF x ( import tax + sales tax ) + declaration form (RM18) + your time + transportation fees + risk of item lost/damaged (happened to me once in custom). smile.gif

Those parcel under RM200 value your parcel usually would not held by custom if they suspecting on your item value or the item they still can hold it especially recently revamped customer checking flow they are really screen ALL parcels.

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*Zhen Ming, any frequency more than 433 MHz or those frequencies not within civilian use would be hold for SIRIM certification, JBE certification or sometimes might confiscated your item and charge you in court if you intend to get to use military frequency.

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ Mar 29 2007, 07:38 PM)
Can you point me to the forumer? I would like to know the detail as well.

Actually the custom is like a big black box. Same item, Officer A can say this code, Officer B can say that code. So pandai pandai lah, see how you explain to them.

As for your question, YES, shipping cost is calculated. Hence CIF value. Cost + Insurance + Freight. So if you purchase your item at USD20, Insurance USD2, shipping cost USD10, total USD32 is dutiable, not USD20.
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i refer you to this website

http://dvdkita.proboards51.com/index.cgi?b...read=1133599202

they been talking about it.

thanks for the info. really appreciate.
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 30 2007, 07:25 PM)
i refer you to this website

http://dvdkita.proboards51.com/index.cgi?b...read=1133599202

they been talking about it.

thanks for the info. really appreciate.
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Found 2 interesting post.

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Amaun Duti = LEPAS (none)
Bayaran Pengendalian Agen / Dokumentasi = RM30.00 (omg!!)
Cukai Perkhidmatan = RM1.50 (ok..fair)
Bayaran EDI (what is this?!?) = RM18.00 (omg!!)
OGA (what is this?!?) = RM10.00 (omg!!)
Total i need to pay = RM59.50


I'll try to explain what the above means:
- Amaun duti = duty amount lor... which in this case is none.
- Bayaran pengendalian Agen/Dokumentasi = Agency fee, you ask ppl to handle the custom for you, need to pay them mah.
- Cukai Perkhidmatan = Service Tax 5% x RM30 = RM1.50
- Bayaran EDI = Customs declaration is sent through online, RM18 per declaration is pretty standard, some agent might up the price a little.
- OGA = Other Government Agencies. Which in this DVD case is Keselamatan Dalam Negeri, they'll see the title and probably the cover to decide whether this item is allowed in Malaysia. Porno / Ajaran sesat is a definite NO-NO.

On another case/post by a pretty pissed off fella:
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And again there r the kastam s-holes that simply hantam 42% tax (30 DVD tax and 10% sales tax) on the DVDs AND SHIPPING (That really pisses me off). On top of the 42%, you'd have to pay borang fees,pos malaysia agent fee, OGA whatever the ***% etc which amounts to $40-$50 extra. You think u can escape that by picking it up yourself at KLIA? the cost of going and coming back is already $40 and not to mentioned that you'd have to deal with imbeciles that would get your blood boiling... They send u to KDN here and there cos they can and cos they like to see you do sumthing stupid like that. They enjoy that, apart frm not doing anything and jerking off to their grandmas old photos. all i can say, Its a gamble.. MALAYSIA BOLEH. Lets look forward to more years in hell... peace out.

I guess this is the post you mean right?
To be honest, customs are bully. They'll try to tax you the highest they can. Either you are their good friend which everything can be discussed or under table lah. The point is, if you feel it is not right, ask for Penjenisan department. They have the authority on goods classification and tariff code.

As an agent myself, I always face the same problem. Same shipment, same item today the officer say no duty, the next day the other officer say got duty. When tell him bout prior shipment, he says the other officer overlooked.

If you have shipments stucked in Port Kelang... look for me. I might be able to help you. "MIGHT" only ya... not confirm. wink.gif



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How about shirts, trousers, jeans and footwears ? Are they going to tax these things as well ?
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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 1 2007, 12:11 PM)
How about shirts, trousers, jeans and footwears ? Are they going to tax these things as well ?
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Yes they are.

I have a customer who imports about 100 T-shirt FOC for their PC fair promotion. I still had to declare them as RM2 each and pay the duty.

Reason:
1. There is no 100% guarantee on my site (as an agent) that the 100pcs of T-shirt will not be sold instead of given free to consumer.
2. RM2 is a more reasonable minimum value for a T-shirt. RM1 is way too low.
3. Our custom system do not allow us to enter 0 value for items to be imported which means we still had to declare a minimum value for goods which are FOC.

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