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post Mar 29 2007, 08:45 AM

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Go under the first field on top menu "Customs"
Then select "Customs Duties Order 1996" or "AHTN Duties Order 2004"

Customs Duties Order 1996 is for importing goods from non-ASEAN countries.
AHTN is for ASEAN countries only.

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btw, I'm guessing video game CDs could fall under Heading 9504/30

Wrong. It is 9504 10 000. Video games. Import duty 10%, Sales tax 10%.

Disc:
Blank Disc 8523 90 100 - 0% + 0%
Disc (software) 8524 31 000 - 0% + 0%
Disc (movie) 8524 32 000 - 0% + 10%
Disc (sound/music) 8524 32 000 - 20% + 10%

The duty formats should read as Import duty + Sales tax.

If you have doubts, call up custom department Bahagian Penjenisan 03-31693749 (Klang division). Ask for Tn. Mustafa. Met him few times, he's a pretty nice guy.

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post Mar 29 2007, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 29 2007, 09:27 AM)
thanks bbjslee thumbup.gif
so by right if we are buying video games from PA, then we shouldn't get any tax right? because it fall under software category? 8524 31 000?
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Video games for computer or console?

Console is dutiable.
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post Mar 29 2007, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 29 2007, 09:48 AM)
console games dutiable ar? oh crap... doh.gif
anyway thanks for the info again, at least we know how much maximum we have to pay if our items are withheld by the customs.

So...
Movies = 10%
Console games = 10%
PC games = 0%
Music/audio CD = 30% shocking.gif
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Well duty and sales tax are not calculated the simple way.
Let me try to illustrate. Let say your cargo CIF value is RM1000 and has import duty 10%, sales tax 10%.

So your import duty is 10% x RM1000 = RM100
Your sales tax is 10% x (RM1000 + RM100) = RM110

So total payable duty & tax = RM210.

So you see, it is not 20% x CIF value. This may seem like no big deal if your cargo value is small. But try to imagine those cargo worth few 100k or more.
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post Mar 29 2007, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Mar 29 2007, 12:05 PM)
Guys, ok let say I wan to buy a Tripod from US.
so the price is for example:
tripod- $50.
Freight-$10.

So what? This item will straight away be posted to me? Or it will be stuck at Custom's first? Will they Tax me? Since it falls under the Digital Camera category.
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Going through freight forwarding agent or courier?
If courier, any problem at custom, they'll inform you.
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post Mar 29 2007, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 29 2007, 06:53 PM)
Disc (movie) 8524 32 000 - 0% + 10%

betul or not, why some forumers paid like 45% as they claimed?
Do they add the shipping cost to calculate the tax? rugi lah like that if they calculate based on the shipping .
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Can you point me to the forumer? I would like to know the detail as well.

Actually the custom is like a big black box. Same item, Officer A can say this code, Officer B can say that code. So pandai pandai lah, see how you explain to them.

As for your question, YES, shipping cost is calculated. Hence CIF value. Cost + Insurance + Freight. So if you purchase your item at USD20, Insurance USD2, shipping cost USD10, total USD32 is dutiable, not USD20.
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post Mar 30 2007, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 30 2007, 07:25 PM)
i refer you to this website

http://dvdkita.proboards51.com/index.cgi?b...read=1133599202

they been talking about it.

thanks for the info. really appreciate.
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Found 2 interesting post.

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Amaun Duti = LEPAS (none)
Bayaran Pengendalian Agen / Dokumentasi = RM30.00 (omg!!)
Cukai Perkhidmatan = RM1.50 (ok..fair)
Bayaran EDI (what is this?!?) = RM18.00 (omg!!)
OGA (what is this?!?) = RM10.00 (omg!!)
Total i need to pay = RM59.50


I'll try to explain what the above means:
- Amaun duti = duty amount lor... which in this case is none.
- Bayaran pengendalian Agen/Dokumentasi = Agency fee, you ask ppl to handle the custom for you, need to pay them mah.
- Cukai Perkhidmatan = Service Tax 5% x RM30 = RM1.50
- Bayaran EDI = Customs declaration is sent through online, RM18 per declaration is pretty standard, some agent might up the price a little.
- OGA = Other Government Agencies. Which in this DVD case is Keselamatan Dalam Negeri, they'll see the title and probably the cover to decide whether this item is allowed in Malaysia. Porno / Ajaran sesat is a definite NO-NO.

On another case/post by a pretty pissed off fella:
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And again there r the kastam s-holes that simply hantam 42% tax (30 DVD tax and 10% sales tax) on the DVDs AND SHIPPING (That really pisses me off). On top of the 42%, you'd have to pay borang fees,pos malaysia agent fee, OGA whatever the ***% etc which amounts to $40-$50 extra. You think u can escape that by picking it up yourself at KLIA? the cost of going and coming back is already $40 and not to mentioned that you'd have to deal with imbeciles that would get your blood boiling... They send u to KDN here and there cos they can and cos they like to see you do sumthing stupid like that. They enjoy that, apart frm not doing anything and jerking off to their grandmas old photos. all i can say, Its a gamble.. MALAYSIA BOLEH. Lets look forward to more years in hell... peace out.

I guess this is the post you mean right?
To be honest, customs are bully. They'll try to tax you the highest they can. Either you are their good friend which everything can be discussed or under table lah. The point is, if you feel it is not right, ask for Penjenisan department. They have the authority on goods classification and tariff code.

As an agent myself, I always face the same problem. Same shipment, same item today the officer say no duty, the next day the other officer say got duty. When tell him bout prior shipment, he says the other officer overlooked.

If you have shipments stucked in Port Kelang... look for me. I might be able to help you. "MIGHT" only ya... not confirm. wink.gif



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post Apr 1 2007, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 1 2007, 12:11 PM)
How about shirts, trousers, jeans and footwears ? Are they going to tax these things as well ?
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Yes they are.

I have a customer who imports about 100 T-shirt FOC for their PC fair promotion. I still had to declare them as RM2 each and pay the duty.

Reason:
1. There is no 100% guarantee on my site (as an agent) that the 100pcs of T-shirt will not be sold instead of given free to consumer.
2. RM2 is a more reasonable minimum value for a T-shirt. RM1 is way too low.
3. Our custom system do not allow us to enter 0 value for items to be imported which means we still had to declare a minimum value for goods which are FOC.
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post Apr 2 2007, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 1 2007, 12:24 PM)
If my items are held up by the customs, how can i retrieve it from them?
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 1 2007, 07:31 PM)
i bought an amplifier and it will should arrive by next week. Most probably it will be held by the customs. May i know is there any public transport to the customs?
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To the above 2 questions. Which custom?
If you're using courier or mailing service, call them up.

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post Apr 2 2007, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 2 2007, 12:46 AM)
the vendor sent via DHL, and i'm expecting the customs to detain it as it cost over RM1k. So where should i go to? I thought all detained parcels goes to the Kastam near KLIA there? If so how can i reach there via public transport?
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Cargo village. Public transport... taxi lor.


QUOTE(Aileron @ Apr 2 2007, 01:57 AM)
how about wristwatches from overseas?

actually how they found out the CIF value or the original value of the thing to tax?
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Wristwatches are non dutiable and no sales tax.
Malaysia's custom are in certain way quite stupid in doing things. But they are very smart or too smart to get the money out from importers. They have a list of things their average market price in Malaysia and overseas. Yes, they do their homeworks. So let say if you're importing Ray-ban spectacle frame made in China as RM10 per piece, they'll know. Coz, market price is over hundreds!! The base line is for importers to declare a reasonable minimum value for the goods they're importing.

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post Apr 3 2007, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 2 2007, 08:55 PM)
No public buses? huh.gif
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Hi,

just checked with my colleague in cargo village, you can now take the Bus to LCCT from Sentral for RM9. The bus will pass by cargo village and you can ask the bus driver to make a stop somewhere around there.

And if you have the cargo village pass (which means you work in there), you can enjoy the rate of RM4 ONLY. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 4 2007, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 3 2007, 05:38 PM)
thumbup.gif thanks for the details! Really appreciate it.

By the way may i ask: if my DHL parcel really stuck at the kastams, should i go settle myself or ask DHL to settle for me? How do DHL charge? I'm currently in Malacca and the bus fare (express) is RM18 to and fro.
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Not sure bout DHL shipments. Probably other forumers here who have experience with them can share their experience.


QUOTE(hackwire @ Apr 4 2007, 03:51 PM)
My  parcel just got clearance for DVD without tax . Cost less than RM 500.

If my next order is RM 5000 , i wonder what the tax will be? Will it be 10% as claimed or more this time?

If it got stuck is there a way to kow tim ?
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1. Depends on you lucky or not
2. If custom officer suspect you're going to sell the DVDs here, not for personal use, they'll definitely tax u.
3. How to kow time ah.... chit chat with the officer... try and explain... then give hints hints... like that lor. hahaha rolleyes.gif Talk soft soft and respect them, they "eat soft don't eat hard".
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post Apr 5 2007, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(@m4t @ Apr 4 2007, 10:19 PM)
offtopic a bit, how's usually they ship tshirts lets say, from Bangkok to Malaysia ? total cost, taxes, etc ?
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Depends on your quantity, 1 ctn or 2, probably better by courier.
slightly more... appoint an agent use truck. Definitely cheaper than by sea / air.

Since you're asking for shipments from Thailand, so your's is under AHTN tariff code.
Which is under the heading 6109.
Normal rate is 20% + 10%. But if you manage to get the form D or Certificate of Origin, you can enjoy CEPT rates, which is 0% + 10%.
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post Apr 9 2007, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(@m4t @ Apr 9 2007, 02:36 PM)
How about if i hand carry about two bags full of t shirts. Do i have any problems to pass airport or others..
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Depends on luck lor. But if caught, u can be charged under "smuggling" shakehead.gif
Then u have to think of way to get yourself out of the trouble lor.

Another way is... take out all the t shirts frm their plastics... cut their price tags... make them look as if you had worn them. "Used" personal effects/household items are not duitable rclxms.gif
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post Apr 10 2007, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(@m4t @ Apr 9 2007, 05:15 PM)
hermm...really can be caught ?, so how's the safe way to avoid get caught ? declare the items ?

if take out all plastic, still the same what, the design is similar. they still can ask a lot rite..
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For all your questions, the answer is: CORRECT, YOU'RE RIGHT!! rclxms.gif
So if you're trying to do legitimate business, do the correct way lor.
Or you can ask those agents in Northern Malaysia to lend you a hand. Sometimes they got lots of "lubang" cool2.gif


QUOTE(jenny03 @ Apr 9 2007, 09:37 PM)
I want to buy shoe from online website,wht is the taxs I hv to paY?
If my items are held up by the customs, how can i retrieve it from them? I'm from kedah, where to retrieve my item?
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Which online website? I assume is from outside Malaysia. I think buying a pair or 2 won't have duty. You can check with other forumers, such as the one who bought DVDs. It'll only be dutiable if the value is exceeding certain limits.
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post Apr 13 2007, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Apr 10 2007, 05:52 PM)
wanna ask, does sales tax applies to all stuff that are brought into Malaysia?

I ordered an amplifier from overseas, and i notice the tax rate is 15%. Do i need to prepare for sales tax as well? If so, how much will it be?
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NO. Not all imported goods are subjected to sales tax.
Amplifier's tariff code is: 8518 40 000, 15% import duty and 10% sales tax.

QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Apr 10 2007, 06:32 PM)
Is Russian Gas Mask is prohibited item in Malaysia? biggrin.gif
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That I'm not sure, probably custom might ask you to declare under military items laugh.gif
Depending on the materials, if it is made of textiles it could be 20% import duty and 10% sales tax. Good luck rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 16 2007, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Apr 13 2007, 11:12 PM)
Can u help me how to declare  custom,sorry this is my first time biggrin.gif need pay one ah? biggrin.gif

Mine made from Latex,Rubber,Plastic,Steel and got a cloth bag biggrin.gif

Need to pay tax? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 16 2007, 02:53 PM)
Do you think electrical appliances (table fan) is taxable when I bring back from overseas ?
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Put some dust on it, take out from packaging, declare as used personal household item. Then no duty & tax. But they might say need Sirim approval whistling.gif

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post Apr 20 2007, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Apr 18 2007, 01:35 AM)
abesla ko.. nanti kastam report kat polis ko import barang ni utk jadi terrorist..  laugh.gif jk dude.. tongue.gif
anyway guys, is it rate stated on their website is total tax(import duty+tax)?
edit: the parcel description is: "video converter (VGA)" but in bulk(10 boxes). how much will be charge?
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"Their website" = whose website?

VGA converter... so it receive television signal or transmit to TV? Dutiable...

QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Apr 19 2007, 10:44 PM)
member aku kat rusia dah declare custom ,pakai Kastam Deklarations CN22 forms dia letak "gift" biggrin.gif value mahal2 tapi aku suh dia letak USD5 jer biggrin.gif

its should be no problem if my fren at Russia already declared the items rite? biggrin.gif

OT:

Avatar:ALi MOhammed,terrorist yg masuk FBI and US army pangkat Sergeant but on the same time dia ajar ahli2 Al-Qaeda tektik perang dan sebagainya,dia dikatakan perancang 9/11 gak biggrin.gif
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CN22... Russia's C2 form for export?
Good luck on your shipments coz Port Kelang Custom currently has lots of operations going on. Read newspaper recently you'll see lots of cases involving custom. But your gas mask mah... small small case only lah. If got hold up, usually is custom wanna "cari makan".
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post Apr 23 2007, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Apr 20 2007, 12:43 AM)
diorang akan bukak parcel ko tu utk check price declared logik ke tak dgn item di dalam..
sorry, i mean kastam's website..

to be precise, the vgabox is used to convert component cable input to monitor..
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Kastam's website only show import duty 1st, then on the right hand panel, you need to select the "sales tax" to check whether sales tax is applicable to the item you're importing.

As for your VGA box, there's a high chance custom may slap a pretty high duty on it. Well, you can always hope.


QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Apr 20 2007, 07:41 PM)
Tapi kalau aku tak declare lagi teruk eh? biggrin.gif

Sebab dulu parcel2 aku sume aku suh seller letak form tu biggrin.gif
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How's your shipment doing? Got hold up in custom or not? Very curious bout this shipment laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Sep 7 2007, 06:09 PM)
I got a problem with kastams too. I just bought a shipment of 5 japanese magazines from Amazon.jp and they ship via FedEx. Supposed to arrive on wednesday, but till now no sign, so I call FedEX they said the package kena tahan sad.gif.

FedEx told me that they will have to wait for KDN to fax them a letter next week or smth only then can see how to go about.

So anyone has any ideas on how to make it faster? Can I go claim the package from them like what MAkNok did? The package status in FedEx tracking is in Sepang, awaiting clearance.
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KDN is Kementerian Keselamatan Dalam Negeri.

They'll need to go through your magazine, in case they are porno or anything prohibited to enter Malaysia. It has nothing to do with Custom.
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QUOTE(kurogane @ Sep 10 2007, 05:37 PM)
It's definitely no porn, but there's a rather high amount of skin shown though...

Well, it's Monday now, I hope FedEx has good news for me.
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I ordered Victoria Secret summer collection catalog before, it got through and reach my doorstep. laugh.gif
So you think Victoria Secret got high amount of skin or not? heheehe

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