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post Aug 18 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 17 2017, 11:35 PM)
Tanjung rambutan wifi down la bro.
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Avoiding head wind. He will come back after the technical talk sunk. He come back only selectively reply a few with marketing talk and vague answer. Ignore the evidences/proves that he can't response altogether.
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post Aug 18 2017, 07:08 AM

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Maybe dataplan for wifi finished liao.

Give him chance to imagine new tech lor..
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post Aug 18 2017, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 18 2017, 12:00 AM)
Avoiding head wind. He will come back after the technical talk sunk. He come back only selectively reply a few with marketing talk and vague answer. Ignore the evidences/proves that he can't response altogether.
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U forgot his final blow..
He won the debate previously. And those salesman and non qualified engineer have no further comment after he explained his shxt
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post Aug 18 2017, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 18 2017, 07:32 AM)
U forgot his final blow..
He won the debate previously.   And those salesman and non qualified engineer have no further comment after he explained his shxt
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There is no such thing as a debate in his eyes. In his boastful opinion, the moment he is present, the debate is already owned by him, plain simple craptology. All these years of him in this forum, anyone that doesn't stand with him are automatically labelled as unethical, lying, no technical knowledge, marketing people, etc. Proper fact check is never in his mind, only his insanely questionable buddies and sources are real.

This description from dares years ago is more than appropriate :
QUOTE(dares @ Oct 25 2013, 08:03 PM)
When Jaycraptor posts, this happens.

user posted image
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post Aug 18 2017, 08:43 AM

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what happen to this car? never see otr...
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post Aug 18 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 18 2017, 08:42 AM)
There is no such thing as a debate in his eyes. In his boastful opinion, the moment he is present, the debate is already owned by him, plain simple craptology. All these years of him in this forum, anyone that doesn't stand with him are automatically labelled as unethical, lying, no technical knowledge, marketing people, etc. Proper fact check is never in his mind, only his insanely questionable buddies and sources are real.

This description from dares years ago is more than appropriate :
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wow 2013....I also don't remember it has been so many years dy biggrin.gif

His reply even more epic

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Nov 1 2013, 12:30 PM)
Wow, didn't know I am that powerful. You'll be crushed and stinky smelly then with the tons of garbage. If you didn't know, garbage can be recycled into reuse material or serve as carbon biomass fuel. It's all about technology.
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Way to twist an insult into a......compliment I guess? laugh.gif

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post Aug 18 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 18 2017, 11:26 AM)
wow 2013....I also don't remember it has been so many years dy  biggrin.gif

His reply even more epic
Way to twist an insult into a......compliment I guess?  laugh.gif
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The best part is, later suddenly out of no where, got new "insider info" to divert or indirectly laugh at you because you have no "insider info"..... flex.gif

But usually, the quality/value of the "insider info" is pretty much shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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post Aug 18 2017, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 18 2017, 01:45 PM)
The best part is, later suddenly out of no where, got new "insider info" to divert or indirectly laugh at you because you have no "insider info"..... flex.gif

But usually, the quality/value of the "insider info" is pretty much  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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What? U trying to says u smarter than toyota engineers?
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post Aug 18 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 18 2017, 01:49 PM)
What? U trying to says u smarter than toyota engineers?
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Not necessarily so, but definitely smarter than "loyola technician" he buta buta believe/simply quote/anyhow made up character to boost his "credibility" whistling.gif whistling.gif

But he is really damn master, let me quote him :
QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 29 2013, 10:08 PM)
....cowards don't dare to face the facts head on. Instead, they'll rely on lies and cheats....
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Pretty telling scolding ownself tongue.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry60691268
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post Aug 18 2017, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 18 2017, 02:11 PM)
Not necessarily so, but definitely smarter than "loyola technician" he buta buta believe/simply quote/anyhow made up character to boost his "credibility"  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

But he is really damn master, let me quote him :
Pretty telling scolding ownself  tongue.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry60691268
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder

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post Aug 18 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 17 2017, 12:59 AM)
Failed? It has been in the market for 4 years, if it failed it would it be the flagship engine option for the newly launched mk8 Fiesta?

OZ and Thai rejected the 1.0l ecoboost? what weed you smoking unker? Where do you think Malaysian Fiestas are assembled at?
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So how many fiesta 1.0 ecoboost on the street so far? Did you check Thailand and Australia inventory before you replied based on own assumption? Where is fiesta 1.0T now? No more? The flagship of fiesta is the ST. Reason being? Fiesta 1.0T failed practical maintenance and low end torque feeling underpowered. The fiesta chassis is not light and the 1.0 engine at low end without turbo assist perform so awful that people would rather get the NA 1.5L.
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post Aug 18 2017, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 17 2017, 01:56 PM)
Dude, you no study science class ah? Metal or metallic object can conduct heat. For the blade to move it is controlled by actuator so the blade is in the path of the exhaust. exhaust is hot the blade is metallic heat gets conducted to the blade and to the actuator. You try holding a metal road at 1 end then 1 end u put it over a heat source...overtime the end you holding will be hot also. Thats why people say VGT is not suitable for petrol due to higher heat that would affect reliability.

Please explain how the actuator push the blade to open and close if there's no connection between the blade and the actuator. Wastegate actuator you see before?
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My knowledge on science is way better than you. I scored A always, my favorite subject in the past. So many turbo diesel using VGT, so where's the overheat issue that you claimed? They are still in 1 piece, good as new even after breaching 600,000km in the company trucks i'm driving back then. Modern day VGT, they always have protective layer that isolate heat away from sensitive part.


Instead, your crap modded car on obsolete turbo probably at junkyard or non-roadworthy before reaching that mileage and driven that roughly. Your crap car turbo with crap piping manifold prone to overheat. No wonder those crap modified turbo always have boost meter to watch out not to over boost and crack the intake manifold. In and out also prone to overheat. No wonder you think VGT will overheat if your knowledge only limited to crap obsolete tech. Will you say the wastegate prone to overheat too because it's in exhaust manifold. EGR also you want to say overheat?

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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 18 2017, 08:43 AM)
what happen to this car? never see otr...
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Already hopeless thanks to unqualified marketing and management people. End up like veloster and koup, nobody buys. Later on, there will be no more news on this car existence.
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post Aug 18 2017, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Aug 17 2017, 08:20 AM)
Unker, when did Ford ever tried using a 1.0L engine on the Mondeo? I don't have in-depth knowledge of cars or Ford but even I know that it is ridiculous for Ford to put a 1.0L engine on the Mondeo, turbo or not.
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You're not Ford fan probably, never follow up with their progress back then? They did fit the 1.0T in Mondeo as part of environmental friendly campaign and to brag how great they were in putting 1.0T able to pull the heavy Mondeo. The plan failed and didn't go into production.
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 18 2017, 09:27 PM)
So how many fiesta 1.0 ecoboost on the street so far? Did you check Thailand and Australia inventory before you replied based on own assumption? Where is fiesta 1.0T now? No more? The flagship of fiesta is the ST. Reason being? Fiesta 1.0T failed practical maintenance and low end torque feeling underpowered. The fiesta chassis is not light and the 1.0 engine at low end without turbo assist perform so awful that people would rather get the NA 1.5L.
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1.0T hardly sells in Malaysia because it has cross the RM100k border which is practically death sentence for a cold brand B-segment. But you didn't know that did you?

Did YOU check how well the 1.0 Ecoboost is doing elsewhere? of course you didn't, because you don't know anything about Ford.

How I know you don't know anything about Ford?

Only a sohai will compare a Fiesta ST to a 1.0 ecoboost and call it a flagship trim. That's like comparing a FK8 to a FC2, if you even know what are those.

And since you mentioned ST, how many ST do you see in Malaysia?
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 18 2017, 09:42 PM)
My knowledge on science is way better than you. I scored A always, my favorite subject in the past. So many turbo diesel using VGT, so where's the overheat issue that you claimed? They are still in 1 piece, good as new even after breaching 600,000km in the company trucks i'm driving back then. Modern day VGT, they always have protective layer that isolate heat away from sensitive part. 
Instead, your crap modded car on obsolete turbo probably at junkyard or non-roadworthy before reaching that mileage and driven that roughly. Your crap car turbo with crap piping manifold prone to overheat. No wonder those crap modified turbo always have boost meter to watch out not to over boost and crack the intake manifold. In and out also prone to overheat. No wonder you think VGT will overheat if your knowledge only limited to crap obsolete tech. Will you say the wastegate prone to overheat too because it's in exhaust manifold. EGR also you want to say overheat?
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Here's your chance to show your A knowledge.

Support you to share the exact engineering name of the sensitive part that is protected on a picture or diagram thumbup.gif

Support you to share the exact location protective layer on a picture or diagram thumbup.gif

Support you to share protective layer isolate what from what on a picture or a diagram thumbup.gif

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post Aug 19 2017, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Spitzer @ Jun 7 2017, 08:56 AM)
Remember, it's a KIA.

Whatever shit they do to it, it's still a KIA, a brand that practically screamy "hey i got no money but i wanna buy a big car".

Same like buying a fake LV bag. Looks the same, but feels and holds a totally different reputation.
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Lol didn't the whole 20k salary with klcc property fracas came about from a kia optima car owner some time back? Lol

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post Aug 20 2017, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 18 2017, 09:42 PM)
My knowledge on science is way better than you. I scored A always, my favorite subject in the past. So many turbo diesel using VGT, so where's the overheat issue that you claimed? They are still in 1 piece, good as new even after breaching 600,000km in the company trucks i'm driving back then. Modern day VGT, they always have protective layer that isolate heat away from sensitive part.
Instead, your crap modded car on obsolete turbo probably at junkyard or non-roadworthy before reaching that mileage and driven that roughly. Your crap car turbo with crap piping manifold prone to overheat. No wonder those crap modified turbo always have boost meter to watch out not to over boost and crack the intake manifold. In and out also prone to overheat. No wonder you think VGT will overheat if your knowledge only limited to crap obsolete tech. Will you say the wastegate prone to overheat too because it's in exhaust manifold. EGR also you want to say overheat?
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Oh my, A in sciences....you never cease to amaze us....this got to be [B]the greatest joke of the year on FnF....lol the heck out of me....if my jaw can physically drop, literally this causes it to do so....i wonder can request to permanently pin this, really historical achievement in FnF thumbsup.gif

Another added failed method of trying to boost own credibility after claiming :
- working in car related industry (yes, we know that you worked managing a fleet of industrial diesel vehicles and trucks)
- so many "buddies" working in car marketing (you mentioned it too many times)
- so many internal connection to car technicians (yupe, the one that told you belt VVT can slip)
- approaching 40 years of "observing" this industry (wow....i guess we are all "babies" in your sight right?)

And now this grade "A" in science.....when you mention this, you expect us to kowtow ar notworthy.gif You expect us to believe this kind of "facts" even if you claim to have phd in thermodynamics.....please la....you're an embarrassment to your alumni from primary to university and also all your working collleagues doh.gif

No, you don't these to back your credibility....what you write here is trash to put it politely....i dare say that those AhBeng/Ah Lian half past 6 SPM fail type of modshop owners that you despise upon can know way more real knowledge than you do.

Pretty much most of us here don't need such credibility boosting pointers to prove ourselves, but merely by what we write here. Plain simple real, verifiable, logical, and understandable facts.

When people mentioned heat, then you talk so much unrelated shit on material thermodynamics that has no relation to the issue. Already highlighted that petrol combustion temperature is higher than diesel counterpart and this limits the material choices to the actuation parts to really top grade non mass market pricing materials, but still want to made things up and anyhow simplifying fact that you can't understand. Talk so much shit about VGT, then here's your chance to embarrass us by naming any mass market petrol engined cars that are available now with VGT.

Trying too hard to boost yourself....here's another shit : never happen to hear intake manifold crack other than physically smashing it on the ground; only exhaust manifold can crack during operation. Intake manifold crack....laugh die me.....

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 18 2017, 09:51 PM)
You're not Ford fan probably, never follow up with their progress back then? They did fit the 1.0T in Mondeo as part of environmental friendly campaign and to brag how great they were in putting 1.0T able to pull the heavy Mondeo. The plan failed and didn't go into production.
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I gave you a hand to be on the fair side of things when Ginny posted something that isn't right, but you did your best to memalukan sendiri. Go see the brochure link la....go play with ford uk configurator la....1.0T mondeo trim line still active dear expert.
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post Aug 20 2017, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 20 2017, 12:27 AM)
Oh my, A in sciences....you never cease to amaze us....this got to be the greatest joke of the year on FnF
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Sciences? I don't study any subject called Sciences after high school.

After high school, I study control system, classical physics, quantum physics, field theory (damn Maxwell equations), power electronics, power system, circuit design, computer security, digital communication, FPGA, Operating System, networking, computer architecture, etc.

Before that there is 4 semesters of engineering mathematic to setup the foundation.

According to Dr Jay salesman theory, then I must be one of the most geeky "car salesman" around.

P/S: if he study material science still makes sense for a undergraduate program rclxs0.gif I didn't imply anything oooooooo

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post Aug 20 2017, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 20 2017, 08:07 AM)
Sciences? I don't study any subject called Sciences after high school.

After high school, I study control system, classical physics, quantum physics, field theory (damn Maxwell equations), power electronics, power system, circuit design, computer security, digital communication, FPGA, Operating System, networking, computer architecture, etc.

Before that there is 4 semesters of engineering mathematic to setup the foundation.

According to Dr Jay salesman theory, then I must be one of the most geeky "car salesman" around.

P/S: if he study material science still makes sense for a undergraduate program rclxs0.gif I didn't imply anything oooooooo
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I think jay is refering to alam dan manusia maybe..


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