Why I get the feeling that the most active in this thread, is a T/H brand salesman?

Nobody has any interest to buy the Optima GT? Even in the Optima thread in Car Club also no interest. Has Naza gone too far on the pricing this time?

I think both Cerato and Selphy made the same huge mistake, tune the suspension all the way to the extreme soft side like magic carpet even softer than Toyota 2 generations back. Crap driving dynamic, no road feel, floaty highway ride. Passengers get carsick on long distance highway.

Peace my friend, I just book the new Elantra Sport. Absolutely love it, the continental like firm ride is exactly what I'm looking for at this affordable price range.

I admit I'm extremely bias/allergy to soft suspension setup. I came from a Toyota fans family, I was growing up getting carsick at highway, and only learn now that the extra few swing after uneven road make a huge difference over long distance after I work and sit in friends/colleagues car and get to experience the different suspension setup.. Also imagine the family meh look when I announce I book the new Elantra Sport.

I think Forte is more firm and well balanced than Cerato. They changed the Cerato to too soft for my liking. You can disagree, again I'm bias and against soft ride from 30 over years of car sick phobia. I'll let my family experience the car sick free ride soon in my new Elantra Sport after so many years with Toyota. I think this should change their perspective a little bit, because car sick over long distance is a normal thing in the family, no one ever suspected the car. Aunty/Uncle only said hot lah, other passenger move too much lah, driver skill not good lah, bla bla bla.

I think Optima GT is a good start. If I'm in 180K-200K price range my options would be Optima GT, Subaru WRX, Volvo V40 T5.

Cerato is still base on last generation suspension setting, with Albert Biermann on board, I strongly believe it will get update in the next generation like the Elantra.

@kapalterbang_737
@overfloe

Don't twist the story and made up your own. I stated clearly they failed to safeguard the long term ownership of buyer being the main reason. They failed to hire capable ace strategist after I stopped spoon-feeding, the resale value of Korean cars keep slumping while their sales volume keep diving drastic. If distributor failed but principal doesn't it could save the day. Unfortunately, principal also ignorant that only point finger at distributor for failure.

My Santa Fe 2011 gets poorer resale value than Honda CRV 2011 when I sold it in early 2015. I sold it before the Korean brands killing their own models leaving owners on their own like old Kia Clarus and Sonata 1998 owners. The moment they started bringing i40 fighting own Sonata, i30 fighting own Veloster with crazy high throwing discount on all models with sales slumped to almost bottom for cars categories are all because of failed incompetent people. I quickly run first. Check how many staff got laid off.

I'm waiting for permission from 2 more friends with Japanese car company whether I can post advantage of buying Volvo. Once they agree, I'll get to post strategies on Volvo against other cars especially Optima GT vs V40 thread, really entice me to post. They'll approve as long as Volvo doesn't affect their Japanese cars sales. Please do give support to either 1. More to come...If got greenlight. VW not allowed to comment much on strategies and technical. Heeheee.... 3 already agreed... I'll pick Volvo ofcourse, tahan lasak actually...

another 10 pages learning what is air filter from him.

PS: how can we request for a ban towards Jay? OR can we have thread starter remove all his comment? no point debating with him.. He will just drag us all down to his level.

Consequences of bringing in so many different engines with so poor sales will only result in splitting the Tucson owners that require different spare parts and eventually end up with even less spare parts. The 2.0L cut price to challenge HRV, later Toyota CHR. How come despite so cheap, the Tucson can't beat overpriced compact CX3?

I thought this topic is about that Kia Optima GT petrol engine. It deviate so far off that I thought there is VGT and EGR stuff on a petrol engine.     

Just want to know more about the Optima. I don't need strategist knowledge to know it can sell or not these Kimchi.

I saw your gaming rig proposal la....so damn top notch, but you have no idea how to fully utilise it....

U sure boh.. He dont modify.. Ori always better value..
Lol lol lol

If got award for a person whom self slap the most times.. I think we all know the winner