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Jacqu3lin3
post Jul 2 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 2 2020, 04:19 PM)
This is one of big name for the US manufacturer. Bosch is German. In general, this brand is more expensive. I'd say both are comparable.
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QUOTE(yushin @ Jul 2 2020, 05:09 PM)
I have a table saw too, as long as you don't run the table saw everyday 9am to 9pm I think your neighbor should be fine with it.
I only use my table saw occasionally as I just a hobby DIY user.
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Table saw pakai sekejap jer, satu project go through 6 pieces of 4x8 on pun x sampai 45 minutes kot. Tapi the sound makes me weary. So i do it at my biggest property, biggest land and with known neighbour tidak ada. No load noise pun sudah like Yamaha SS2 vrooooom!

Second would be the mitre saw, tp itu pakai lagi sekejap and lagi jarang.
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post Jul 2 2020, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jacqu3lin3 @ Jul 2 2020, 04:09 PM)
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Hi all.. would like to ask for opinion. Is this brand better compare to Bosch?

or any other recommendation.

Sorry i do not have any knowledge of power tools but plan to buy as a gift.
Thanks alot  biggrin.gif
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On par with Bosch level but this one is expensive due to American branding and shipping involved. Bosch can be cheaper due to having more production factories and higher sales volume (in MY).

Is the recipient starting off with DIY work? or already has a set of tools on hand?
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post Jul 2 2020, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 2 2020, 03:46 PM)
Noise cannot do anything. You make noise, then neighbor make noise. So, even  thumbup.gif So depends on neighbor. Probably just don't start working at 7am  smile.gif

Many small size table saw to your requirement.
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indeed, most of the time i start in afternoon.
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post Jul 2 2020, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Jul 2 2020, 05:09 PM)
I have a table saw too, as long as you don't run the table saw everyday 9am to 9pm I think your neighbor should be fine with it.
I only use my table saw occasionally as I just a hobby DIY user.
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Terrace house?

u got a point, use occasionally shouldn't be a problem. i m a hobby DIY user too.
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QUOTE(ijan @ Jul 2 2020, 08:08 PM)
Table saw pakai sekejap jer, satu project go through 6 pieces of 4x8 on pun x sampai 45 minutes kot. Tapi the sound makes me weary. So i do it at my biggest property, biggest land and with known neighbour tidak ada. No load noise pun sudah like Yamaha SS2 vrooooom!

Second would be the mitre saw, tp itu pakai lagi sekejap and lagi jarang.
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Out of curiosity, does a table saw make much more noise vs a circular saw?

QUOTE(wenloong78 @ Jul 2 2020, 09:46 PM)
Terrace house?

u got a point, use occasionally shouldn't be a problem. i m a hobby DIY user too.
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Should be okay.. if on good terms w the neighbour just heads-up them I'mma be making some noise on this date this time so they can go out for food or something
People tend to be less mad.gif if pre-informed.

IMO grinder noise on concrete can be a problem but wood cutting shouldn't take long for the noisy part.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Jul 2 2020, 09:49 PM
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post Jul 3 2020, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2020, 09:48 PM)
Out of curiosity, does a table saw make much more noise vs a circular saw?
Should be okay.. if on good terms w the neighbour just heads-up them I'mma be making some noise on this date this time so they can go out for food or something
People tend to be less  mad.gif if pre-informed.

IMO grinder noise on concrete can be a problem but wood cutting shouldn't take long for the noisy part.
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More than 100dB SPL when cutting. My cordless circular is less than 100dB when cutting, noise level is more than double. My wired Makita pun not table saw noisy. But i see online some ppl are saying circular=table sound level.

But still, figuratively mcm x banyak, but i can cut using my circular without earplug. I cannot even switch on my table saw without one.
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post Jul 3 2020, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Jul 3 2020, 10:22 AM)
More than 100dB SPL when cutting. My cordless circular is less than 100dB when cutting, noise level is more than double. My wired Makita pun not table saw noisy. But i see online some ppl are saying circular=table sound level.

But still, figuratively mcm x banyak, but i can cut using my circular without earplug. I cannot even switch on my table saw without one.
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The table saw noise is amplified by the table itself. It cannot be less or equal to circular saw biggrin.gif

I think for occasional woodwork, circular saw is enough wink.gif
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post Jul 3 2020, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Jul 3 2020, 10:22 AM)
More than 100dB SPL when cutting. My cordless circular is less than 100dB when cutting, noise level is more than double. My wired Makita pun not table saw noisy. But i see online some ppl are saying circular=table sound level.

But still, figuratively mcm x banyak, but i can cut using my circular without earplug. I cannot even switch on my table saw without one.
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Table saw more noisy because the table act as a speaker box.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 3 2020, 10:58 AM)
The table saw noise is amplified by the table itself. It cannot be less or equal to circular saw  biggrin.gif

I think for occasional woodwork, circular saw is enough  wink.gif
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My bad, my cordless is 80dB (not 90dB) thus 100+dB vs 80dB, no brainer. the table saw punya noise, but 9dB=4 times noisier anyways. On the table amplifying I dunno, that is something new, cant google that. And, my table saw is universal motor anyways, bukan the big ass induction.

HOWEVER, once ada table saw...once ada table saw aaa, you would hate your circular saw, haha! Susah, inaccurate, troublesome - that coming from me with a cordless saw and kreg accu-cut jig

When i have to cut something my table saw cannot i would find a way to be able to use my table saw, paling cikai la my sliding mitre..kalau xdpt, ada sad sikit in my heart. Thus kena beli panel saw liao, but no place to keep. I pernah gila 4x8 18mm blockboard crosscut on table saw, no in/out feed, lone ranger buat.

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QUOTE(ijan @ Jul 3 2020, 03:02 PM)
My bad, my cordless is 80dB (not 90dB) thus 100+dB vs 80dB, no brainer. the table saw punya noise, but 9dB=4 times noisier anyways. On the table amplifying I dunno, that is something new, cant google that. And, my table saw is universal motor anyways, bukan the big ass induction.

HOWEVER, once ada table saw...once ada table saw aaa, you would hate your circular saw, haha! Susah, inaccurate, troublesome - that coming from me with a cordless saw and kreg accu-cut jig

When i have to cut something my table saw cannot i would find a way to be able to use my table saw, paling cikai la my sliding mitre..kalau xdpt, ada sad sikit in my heart. Thus kena beli panel saw liao, but no place to keep. I pernah gila 4x8 18mm blockboard crosscut on table saw, no in/out feed, lone ranger buat.
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Amplify in term of the enclosure that hold the blade in table saw acts like speaker box laugh.gif Remove speaker from the box, the volume gone smile.gif

As guide every 3dB increase actually 100% increase of sound energy. You need a 200W amplifier from 100W amplifier to increase sound just by 3dB

I think with proper jig you can cut board as good as table saw. It is just that it takes a bit more time for preparation. I want table saw but probably use once a year and main problem is no place to keep growing tool unless stay at kampung laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 3 2020, 09:39 PM)
Amplify in term of the enclosure that hold the blade in table saw acts like speaker box  laugh.gif  Remove speaker from the box, the volume gone  smile.gif

As guide every 3dB increase actually 100% increase of sound energy. You need a 200W amplifier from 100W amplifier to increase sound just by 3dB

I think with proper jig you can cut board as good as table saw. It is just that it takes a bit more time for preparation. I want table saw but probably use once a year and main problem is no place to keep growing tool unless stay at kampung  laugh.gif
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kenot one, with proper jig+a lot of time you can cut almost as good ONE TIME, the accuracy and repeatability and consistency haywire.

Beli la satu, hehe.
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post Jul 4 2020, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2020, 09:27 PM)
On par with Bosch level but this one is expensive due to American branding and shipping involved. Bosch can be cheaper due to having more production factories and higher sales volume (in MY).

Is the recipient starting off with DIY work? or already has a set of tools on hand?
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I haven't really survey on Bosch prices yet but the seller mention Milwaukee warranty 2 years and if anything wrong they will exchange a new one instead of servicing unlike other brands. (claiming this is best brand compare to other brands)

Recipient likes to be handyman once in a while not always though and has no tools on hand but borrows from friends (most of the time Bosch) whenever needed. Not sure if by having own tools will start DIY more or not. Maybe will i guess haha.
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post Jul 5 2020, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Jul 3 2020, 03:02 PM)
My bad, my cordless is 80dB (not 90dB) thus 100+dB vs 80dB, no brainer. the table saw punya noise, but 9dB=4 times noisier anyways. On the table amplifying I dunno, that is something new, cant google that. And, my table saw is universal motor anyways, bukan the big ass induction.

HOWEVER, once ada table saw...once ada table saw aaa, you would hate your circular saw, haha! Susah, inaccurate, troublesome - that coming from me with a cordless saw and kreg accu-cut jig

When i have to cut something my table saw cannot i would find a way to be able to use my table saw, paling cikai la my sliding mitre..kalau xdpt, ada sad sikit in my heart. Thus kena beli panel saw liao, but no place to keep. I pernah gila 4x8 18mm blockboard crosscut on table saw, no in/out feed, lone ranger buat.
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Bosch Gts 10J....currently i m eyeing this table saw due to its compactness and can be stored vertically


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2pbzsDUDA

Operating noise lvl is around 75db (at minute 13:45)

maybe becoz of this tubing design frame which make it lower operating noise level?


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post Jul 5 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jacqu3lin3 @ Jul 4 2020, 05:30 PM)
I haven't really survey on Bosch prices yet but the seller mention Milwaukee warranty 2 years and if anything wrong they will exchange a new one instead of servicing unlike other brands. (claiming this is best brand compare to other brands)

Recipient likes to be handyman once in a while not always though and has no tools on hand but borrows from friends (most of the time Bosch) whenever needed. Not sure if by having own tools will start DIY more or not. Maybe will i guess haha.
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it is possible Milwaukee dont have service center here, I am not sure.

Generally, most local industry user/contractor use Bosch or china brand. Some use Hilti is due to their company's global contract.
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jul 5 2020, 05:18 PM)
it is possible Milwaukee dont have service center here, I am not sure.

Generally, most local industry user/contractor use Bosch or china brand. Some use Hilti is due to their company's global contract.
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I believe at least got Penang and KL service center. Got HQ in KL
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post Jul 5 2020, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jul 5 2020, 05:18 PM)
it is possible Milwaukee dont have service center here, I am not sure.

Generally, most local industry user/contractor use Bosch or china brand. Some use Hilti is due to their company's global contract.
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Been using Hilti for my construction works, expensive but quality and efficiency is top-notch.
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post Jul 6 2020, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jul 5 2020, 05:18 PM)
it is possible Milwaukee dont have service center here, I am not sure.

Generally, most local industry user/contractor use Bosch or china brand. Some use Hilti is due to their company's global contract.
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icic. Guess will go for Bosch to be safe. Thanks ya.
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QUOTE(wenloong78 @ Jul 5 2020, 11:25 AM)
Bosch Gts 10J....currently i m eyeing this table saw due to its compactness and can be stored vertically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2pbzsDUDA

Operating noise lvl is around 75db (at minute 13:45)

maybe becoz of this tubing design frame which make it lower operating noise level?
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Pakai HP x bley la.

https://youtu.be/r5ec6hsEnL4?t=64

Its the same, just different table size, extension, and market. 100dBA

Kalau you eyeing the GTS-10J, if la ada other model can explore dulu because my GTS-10J problem aa
1) table support width too small, max ~16 inches, kacau2 17" saja. Its PIA to cut my frequent 18-24" width cabinet carcass.
2) mitre guide is rubbish, mitre slide is rubbish. Its abit too big, bergerak2, never true. There is too much play.

Other than that, its light, portable, keep upright, tick my decision to buy, so can keep. Power sometimes off, depending on materials la, the last Keruing wood stalled the motor sket, banyak sap kot, ooozing saja.


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QUOTE(ijan @ Jul 6 2020, 09:44 AM)
Pakai HP x bley la.

https://youtu.be/r5ec6hsEnL4?t=64

Its the same, just different table size, extension, and market. 100dBA

Kalau you eyeing the GTS-10J, if la ada other model can explore dulu because my GTS-10J problem aa
1) table support width  too small, max ~16 inches, kacau2 17" saja. Its PIA to cut my frequent 18-24" width cabinet  carcass.
2) mitre guide is rubbish, mitre slide is rubbish. Its abit too big, bergerak2, never true. There is too much play.

Other than that, its light, portable, keep upright, tick my decision to buy, so can keep. Power sometimes off, depending on materials la, the last Keruing wood stalled the motor sket, banyak sap kot, ooozing saja.
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