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 LYN Power Tools Discussion V2, Bosch, Makita, Dewalt, Dremel etc

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post Feb 2 2020, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 2 2020, 07:41 PM)
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CNY la. Apa screw screw. Bad luck wei. tongue.gif
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post Feb 2 2020, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 2 2020, 07:47 PM)
CNY la. Apa screw screw. Bad luck wei. tongue.gif
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nowadays where got ikut tradition wan?
niamah my friend came to paileen, use white color paperbag, give me white colored melon seeds, WTF? doh.gif

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 2 2020, 07:50 PM)
nowadays where got ikut tradition wan?
niamah my friend came to paileen, use white color paperbag, give me white colored melon seeds, WTF? doh.gif
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Ya hor. I also no follow tradition. blush.gif

Mat lan color also I ok . As long doesn't look like dead think. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 2 2020, 10:27 PM

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You still can you screw #1, just put size 6 and above wall/screw plug.

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The plaster ceiling screw you bought screw need big hole, usually size 7 and above. This type will require smaller hole, but you need to buy the one suitable for your plaster ceiling thickness.

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post Feb 4 2020, 08:55 PM

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the fan is nice and the coffee maker biggrin.gif
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post Feb 12 2020, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 21 2020, 03:03 PM)
OMG! finally can sau kung kor leen user posted image
this is what i did with the suggestions and help from you guys - thank you to all!

1. use a tile bit (see attached photo)
2. use my cordless drill with the tile bit
3. no need to use a nail to start a hole. just use the tile bit and drill slow onto the spot. the bit wont skid, infact it was very steady and accurate, and takes very little time to start a hole.
4. dip the tip in water every 5-10 seconds, you can hear it sizzle....
5. each blardy hole took me like more than 10mins, like never ending. user posted image
6. drill with the tile bit until at least 1cm which is the thickness of my tile. Many times I wanted to rotary hammer it halfway. I did with one hole and the sides chipped a little so dont take shortcuts. Make sure its passed the tile only use the big gun.
7. last but not least, dont drill tiles ever again.... icon_question.gif

see the tile bit compared with a new one after only 6 holes.
my body aches all over now.... sweat.gif
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I used to drill tiles like the way you did. kekeke laugh.gif
Very tiring indeed.

Nowadays I don't even use tile drill bits anymore biggrin.gif

I stick a bit of masking tape on the tile
use a normal masonry drill bit on the masking tape
the drill bit will not slip as the masking tape is not slippery
the first part, drill slowly and don't use the hammer mode
you will soon have a shallow hole and can switch to hammer mode
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post Feb 15 2020, 09:52 PM

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this girl got so many nice tools that will put most, if not all, pro-carpenters here to shame


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post Feb 15 2020, 11:05 PM

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I am planning to buy Bosch GBH 2-24 DRE rotary hammer. Main use will be drilling small holes on concrete wall. However, there are times where I will need to drill through the small gaps between tiles, or even drilling tiny holes on a tile in kitchen and bathroom. Is that Bosch suitable for these jobs?

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Feb 15 2020, 11:05 PM)
I am planning to buy Bosch GBH 2-24 DRE rotary hammer. Main use will be drilling small holes on concrete wall. However, there are times where I will need to drill through the small gaps between tiles, or even drilling tiny holes on a tile in kitchen and bathroom. Is that Bosch suitable for these jobs?

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Concrete wall no problem up to 24mm hole.
You will need SDS plus bits for masonry for the rotary hammer function, plug and play.
Normal staright shank bits will need a chuck adapter.

Gaps between tiles normal masonry bit will do. I believe its best to drill on rotary only until you have passed the tile thickness, once you hit the concrete below you can use rotary hammer mode.
Drilling on tiles you need the tile bit aka CYL-9, use on rotary only (WITHOUT hammer) mode at slow speed. These bits are straight shank, need to use a chuck adapter.

Chuck adapter.. u can get gooding ones from Hitachi here https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hitachi-...ivtTdj&search=1
comes with a whole bunch of SDS bits and one chisel. Sounds like a good deal.

or the chuck adapter only - super cheap https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hitachi-...l__null__null__

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post Feb 16 2020, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Feb 15 2020, 11:05 PM)
I am planning to buy Bosch GBH 2-24 DRE rotary hammer. Main use will be drilling small holes on concrete wall. However, there are times where I will need to drill through the small gaps between tiles, or even drilling tiny holes on a tile in kitchen and bathroom. Is that Bosch suitable for these jobs?

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The Bosch GBH 2-24 DRE rotary hammer is good even for contractor. If you are only home use, any rotary hammer will suffice. Drilling hole with hammer mode, standard use 6mm sds drill bit and screw M4 (eh. 4mm x 20mm)
To drill hole into tiles, you need to use drill mode only until penetrate the tiles, then use hammer & drill mode. If you are pro and able to control speed & force, then hammer mode all the way. Press minimum hammer mode until hole tile is penetrated and the drill brick using mid-power. I seldom use full press power in tiles
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Hilti 2020 powertools really amazing this time around.

Concrete coring; concrete demolition and the cutter.

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why msia hilti doesn't want to open up their hilti to cater for more main stream market; like subscription base. etc.


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Btw Hilti dont like to sell to the small contractor or home user (even in US and EU).

Their target is big company who also sign up service contract with them...

but they tools are good stuff..
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Feb 16 2020, 11:08 PM)
Btw Hilti dont like to sell to the small contractor or home user (even in US and EU).

Their target is big company who also sign up service contract with them...

but they tools are good stuff..
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The good about hilti is their A.S.S. They should separate their big corp portfolio and their domestic/small scale kind market; instead bundle all together. Hilti could be game changer;if they are smart enough on these segment. Instead wanking the same ways as others in the way; keep putting new things year by year.

You wont get A.S.S...with dewalt; makita; bosch; milwaukee...so forth.

And it also come down to the question about; feasibility of power tools ownership.

Whats the purpose having lot of power tools; but you only use it maybe 2/5 through out the ownership period. and if there is problem; end up back in bins? rclxub.gif

Hilti will be game changer if they able to create a rental base kind for people who have in-depth of power tools usage- like small cons or skilled users.


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post Feb 17 2020, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Feb 17 2020, 01:13 AM)
The good about hilti is their A.S.S. They should separate their big corp portfolio and their domestic/small scale kind market; instead bundle all together. Hilti could be game changer;if they are smart enough on these segment. Instead wanking the same ways as others in the way; keep putting new things year by year.

You wont get A.S.S...with dewalt; makita; bosch; milwaukee...so forth.

And it also come down to the question about; feasibility of power tools ownership.

Whats the purpose having lot of power tools; but you only use it maybe 2/5 through out the ownership period. and if there is problem; end up back in bins? rclxub.gif

Hilti will be game changer if they able to create a rental base kind for people who have in-depth of power tools usage- like small cons or skilled users.
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Hilti is not new company. The target market is mainly contractor. that is why the price target is not for small few people contractors like in Malaysia mostly in home renovation. Even many of them not using pro Bosch series, Dewalt, Hitachi etc. Just use China cheaper one. They do not need to wait for repair or bother about warranty. They would just buy new replacement. If the tool cannot last longer than a year, they will just avoid the brand. The ROI is even better this way than investing on expensive tools.

They do not bother about brand name or long lasting more than 5 years lime most home hobbyists laugh.gif
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post Feb 17 2020, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 17 2020, 09:08 AM)
Hilti is not new company. The target market is mainly contractor. that is why the price target is not for small few people contractors like in Malaysia mostly in home renovation. Even many of them not using pro Bosch series, Dewalt, Hitachi etc. Just use China cheaper one. They do not need to wait for repair or bother about warranty. They would just buy new replacement. If the tool cannot last longer than a year, they will just avoid the brand. The ROI is even better this way than investing on expensive tools.

They do not bother about brand name or long lasting more than 5 years lime most home hobbyists  laugh.gif
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they dun use cordless or chuck driver/drill, impact or whatnot

semua pakai drill biasa, tarik extension wire torn here and there, no plug cucuk 2 wire in. Pasang signboard 4 storeys high pakai wire china drill, took the time to tarik wire and all.

Sometimes its the matter of cost, but the question is efficiency.

But ada hal any china tool also makes no difference la, but sometimes, it matters. Just more time.
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post Feb 17 2020, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Feb 17 2020, 09:15 AM)
they dun use cordless or chuck driver/drill, impact or whatnot

semua pakai drill biasa, tarik extension wire torn here and there, no plug cucuk 2 wire in. Pasang signboard 4 storeys high pakai wire china drill, took the time to tarik wire and all.

Sometimes its the matter of cost, but the question is efficiency.

But ada hal any china tool also makes no difference la, but sometimes, it matters. Just more time.
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Labor is cheap or get cheap labor. Motto used by most of them smile.gif
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post Feb 17 2020, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 17 2020, 09:20 AM)
Labor is cheap or get cheap labor. Motto used by most of them  smile.gif
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mistake bro, now labor mahal, more expensive than tools investment. a work that could be done in a week, would take these ppl 3 weeks, sbb kerja 3-4 jam satu hari. that is additional 12 days x 3 ppl = 36 days of gaji ~ boleh beli tool.

Ya ya, this calculation cannot pakai, but im in the field and the more time it takes, it is more expensive collectively.
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Now labor getting more expensive. Now minor house repair I DIY liao.
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hi all sifu,

i looking for an cordless drill for house use, it must able to drill wall.

what is the best option i can go for? what is the price likely will be


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when labor = sg/us then tools investment will come accordingly. I hire those general workers before they prefer cheap tools due to the reason it will overheat easily and sometimes breakdown during work. They will take that as an excuse to snake.

Recently I hire someone to core a 6" hole in a 400mm RC slab. Main con said they can do it without hiring professionals. During the commission day, they bought low-end tools which cost them 1.5k and fail to core the slab ended up wasting 1 full day of a workday. (1 Engineer 1 supervisor 2 GW) 8hours you can estimate the manpower wasted and downtime cost too. I overwrite the main-con and hired professional corer who used Hilti/Shibuya and they can core each hole through 160mm RB 400mm Slab about 30min per hole.

After the job that main-con was banned from the tendering list.

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