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tongaz86
post Apr 15 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 15 2017, 08:38 AM)
Hard to guarantee 100% 60 FPS on full settings but I would say high chance you are able to do that but bear in mind that there are some advance settings like Nvidia GameWorks tweaks that can significantly bring down the performance of the game, just make sure your "full settings" do not include them because they aren't easy to handle, even with a super high end GPU.

SSD is not a requirement to get 60 FPS so you may remove that if you want to save cost for now.
No need.
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Will sacrifice some setting for better FPS. SSD is just for window & some games. If I upgrade latter from HDD to SSD will it be hard to transfer?

QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Apr 15 2017, 12:26 PM)
note that 1060 has 2 variants, 3 and 6GB. which variant is that you have listed? 6GB can guarantee full setting and >60fps on most games due to higher cuda cores and vram than the 3GB.
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I will be getting the 3GB variants. If I lower my CPU to i3 will there be a bottleneck? (i3 7100)
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post Apr 15 2017, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(demetry @ Apr 3 2017, 10:41 PM)
[B][Budget]
4-5k, 5-6k but i m not sure of budget coz only few games i play as below. I will not play first person shooter?
[Purpose]
Main: Gaming. 2nd is office related work. So i need MS Office & Windows.
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
nil.
[Monitor resolution]
Wide screen 22inch maybe, I do not know. Those large size monitor used by CC?
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
XCOM2, HON, DOTA2
[Personal preferences]
In my mind now, maybe go for Asus gaming desktop?? it has to be full SSD. can recommend me other than ASUS?

Can also recommemnd best for bucks computer?
[Location] KL

Please help.
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If gaming and office work only, just get a cheap i5 or even pentium couple with a good GPU will do. i7 and ryzen 7 is overkill for ur usage.
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post Apr 15 2017, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(skullker @ Apr 15 2017, 02:47 PM)
[Budget] - 2000

[Purpose] - Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - Nothing

[Monitor Preference] - Any 22-24 inch IPS will do

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - Just any games

[Personal Preference] - Ryzen 5 and AMD cards ( RED FTW ! )
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You need to increase your budget, it is not enough to fit all the components.

22" - 24" IPS monitor - around RM 500
Ryzen 5 1400 - around RM 800 (cheapest available Ryzen CPU in Malaysia now)
RX460 2GB - around RM 550 (cheapest RX400 series)

As you can see, the total cost is already nearly 2k with just 3 items in the cart sweat.gif

QUOTE(tongaz86 @ Apr 15 2017, 06:31 PM)
Will sacrifice some setting for better FPS. SSD is just for window & some games. If I upgrade latter from HDD to SSD will it be hard to transfer?
I will be getting the 3GB variants. If I lower my CPU to i3 will there be a bottleneck? (i3 7100)
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If you buy a 240GB SSD in the future and you have a 1TB HDD with 800GB of files then you need to choose which files to migrate over to the new SSD, or just format the whole PC again (this is recommended to reduce the chance of having symlinks issue after data migration).

Regarding the CPU, it depends on games, some games don't require i5 to run smoothly but some do, i5 is a safer bet in this case (you can downgrade to i5 7400/7500 to save cost, they are very close in terms of performance).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 15 2017, 06:43 PM)
You need to increase your budget, it is not enough to fit all the components.

22" - 24" IPS monitor - around RM 500
Ryzen 5 1400 - around RM 800 (cheapest available Ryzen CPU in Malaysia now)
RX460 2GB - around RM 550 (cheapest RX400 series)

As you can see, the total cost is already nearly 2k with just 3 items in the cart  sweat.gif
If you buy a 240GB SSD in the future and you have a 1TB HDD with 800GB of files then you need to choose which files to migrate over to the new SSD, or just format the whole PC again (this is recommended to reduce the chance of having symlinks issue after data migration).

Regarding the CPU, it depends on games, some games don't require i5 to run smoothly but some do, i5 is a safer bet in this case (you can downgrade to i5 7400/7500 to save cost, they are very close in terms of performance).
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Then how much do i need to increase my budget? 2.5k or 3k will be enough?
And also listed the complete ryzen 5 ( minimum budget ) rig. TQ and sorry if too much question.
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post Apr 15 2017, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 15 2017, 06:43 PM)

If you buy a 240GB SSD in the future and you have a 1TB HDD with 800GB of files then you need to choose which files to migrate over to the new SSD, or just format the whole PC again (this is recommended to reduce the chance of having symlinks issue after data migration).

Regarding the CPU, it depends on games, some games don't require i5 to run smoothly but some do, i5 is a safer bet in this case (you can downgrade to i5 7400/7500 to save cost, they are very close in terms of performance).
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How about ram? Do i get the highest MHz that I can support or just anything. Also what the difference with those fancy looking colorful ram and just plain naked?

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post Apr 15 2017, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(skullker @ Apr 15 2017, 09:10 PM)
Then how much do i need to increase my budget? 2.5k or 3k will be enough?
And also listed the complete ryzen 5 ( minimum budget ) rig. TQ and sorry if too much question.
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If you want to run games at relatively high settings, then prepare at least 3k (just for the rig) and another 500 for the monitor.

QUOTE(tongaz86 @ Apr 15 2017, 10:17 PM)
How about ram? Do i get the highest MHz that I can support or just anything. Also what the difference with those fancy looking colorful ram and just plain naked?
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Only Z270 (for Intel latest consumer grade chipset) supports RAM speed of > 2400MHz currently, so just get 2133MHz or 2400MHz RAM for other chipset (H270 & B250 support 2400MHz, H110 & B150 & H170 support up to 2133MHz only).

Speed and latency matter the most, those fancy RGB/LED lighting don't bring any performance improvement one, if they are having similar speed and latency count then just get the cheapest one if you want to save cost.
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post Apr 16 2017, 11:16 AM

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Hey guys, i just want to ask whether it is worth it to upgrade my rig? Budget around 1.5k

My current specs are
I5 2400
8gb ram
Gtx 1060
Seasonic s12ii 620w
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post Apr 16 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(game4life @ Apr 16 2017, 11:16 AM)
Hey guys, i just want to ask whether it is worth it to upgrade my rig? Budget around 1.5k

My current specs are
I5 2400
8gb ram
Gtx 1060
Seasonic s12ii 620w
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Are you getting any hiccups? If not, then stay with it.
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post Apr 16 2017, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Apr 15 2017, 06:36 PM)
If gaming and office work only, just get a cheap i5 or  even pentium couple with a good GPU will do. i7 and ryzen 7 is overkill for ur usage.
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yes agree with your suggestion. tristanx suggested someting on my budget which hes also right. my heart tells me to go ryzen7 or i7, my brain tells me to go r5 or i5.

haha.

decided to wait for ryzen 5

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alvinfcj
post Apr 16 2017, 05:17 PM

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Hey sifus,

I planning to upgrade my com to last and support some latest games (destiny 2 XD).

I just upgraded my proc from fx6300 to i5 6500.

All in together with the Mobo ram I spend abt rm1300 TT.

My current GPU is a r9 270 dualx 2gb d5. Does this required an upgrade or it can still last a year more with medium quality gaming..

I think I blow too much of my budget on the cpu there.

If in need of an upgrade, what gpu would be best? The most value for money upgrade to my r9..

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post Apr 16 2017, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfcj @ Apr 16 2017, 05:17 PM)
Hey sifus,

I planning to upgrade my com to last and support some latest games (destiny 2 XD).

I just upgraded my proc from fx6300 to i5 6500.

All in together with the Mobo ram I spend abt rm1300 TT.

My current GPU is a r9 270 dualx 2gb d5. Does this required an upgrade or it can still last a year more with medium quality gaming..

I think I blow too much of my budget on the cpu there.

If in need of an upgrade, what gpu would be best? The most value for money upgrade to my r9..
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If you have no issues, don't bother upgrading further. if you do, Viewnet selling Leadtek GTX970 at RM949. That's very cheap.
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post Apr 16 2017, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 16 2017, 06:58 PM)
If you have no issues, don't bother upgrading further. if you do, Viewnet selling Leadtek GTX970 at RM949. That's very cheap.
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Oh really.. thanks bro.. my GPU still can tahan tahan la.. haha..
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post Apr 16 2017, 11:17 PM

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My 2 years old laptop is barely holding on now and I am currently looking to get a rig to replace it . I am total newbie in building a pc and would appreciate it if you guys could suggest me a set up and where to buy them. Thanks!

[B][Budget] Below 6k (preferably lesser than 5.5k if possible but can stretch to 6k depending on value/necessity/attractive specs)

[Purpose] Gaming and University work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None ( except mouse and keyboard)

[Monitor resolution] At least FHD?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Games : Currently mainly dota2, csgo, and fifa. Planning to play GTA V, playerunknown's battleground, Total War series and some newer games
with this pc. (medium to high settings at 1080p)
Software : Engineering software like CAD and pspice. Doing programming as well and may run virtual machine.

[Personal preferences]Intel and nvidia cpu and gpu

[Location]KL
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post Apr 17 2017, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(Xiang_flutist @ Apr 16 2017, 11:17 PM)
My 2 years old laptop is barely holding on now and I am currently looking to get a rig to replace it . I am total newbie in building a pc and would appreciate it if you guys could suggest me a set up and where to buy them. Thanks!

[B][Budget] Below 6k (preferably lesser than 5.5k if possible but can stretch to 6k depending on value/necessity/attractive specs)

[Purpose] Gaming and University work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None ( except mouse and keyboard)

[Monitor resolution] At least FHD?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Games : Currently mainly dota2, csgo, and fifa. Planning to play GTA V, playerunknown's battleground, Total War series and some newer games
                                                                      with this pc. (medium to high settings at 1080p)
                                                        Software : Engineering software like CAD and pspice. Doing programming as well and may run virtual machine.

[Personal preferences]Intel and nvidia cpu and gpu

[Location]KL
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Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1421
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 570
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 AMP! SE - RM 1348
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 474
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 525

Total: RM 5291 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 17 2017, 08:40 AM)
Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1421
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 570
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 AMP! SE - RM 1348
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 474
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 525

Total: RM 5291 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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You forgot power supply

How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 - 1300
Kingston UV400 120GB - 239
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor - 649

RM5496 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 17 2017, 08:43 AM)
You forgot power supply

How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 - 1300
Kingston UV400 120GB - 239
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor - 649

RM5496 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 17 2017, 08:40 AM)
Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1421
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 570
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 AMP! SE - RM 1348
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 474
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 525

Total: RM 5291 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 17 2017, 08:43 AM)
You forgot power supply

How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 - 1300
Kingston UV400 120GB - 239
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor - 649

RM5496 total (C-Zone prices)
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Thanks for the suggestions! looks good. But don't I need a cooler of some sort as well for these set up? And how much would it cost if I need windows installed as well?
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Guys going for mitx build, should i go ryzen 5 or just i5? cant find any mitx board for Ryzen yet, stuff i'll reuse, Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse, 256GB SSD & GTX670. Please let me know if the below items is compatible with each other?

(Price from Viewnet)
CORE I5 7500 - 919
Asrock H270M-ITX/AC - 549
Kingston D4 16GB PC2133 - 499
Noctua NH-L9i - ???
Silverstone STRIDER GOLD SFX 450W - 449
Silverstone ML08 - ???

Should be around RM3k for the build, is this build ok? Or any other alternative?

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QUOTE(Xiang_flutist @ Apr 17 2017, 02:22 PM)
Thanks for the suggestions! looks good. But don't I need a cooler of some sort as well for these set up? And how much would it cost if I need windows installed as well?
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The CPU comes with Intel HSF which is enough for non-overclocking build (unless bad temperature).

The case that I've recommended comes with 3 casing fans (2 front & 1 rear), should be enough for now, you can add more if needed.

Windows 10 Home OEM costs around RM 200+ (RM 500+ for retail version), if you want to save money, go to Garage Sales or lelong/mudah.my and hunt for cheap genuine key (beware of counterfeit key though).

QUOTE(beebee @ Apr 17 2017, 02:24 PM)
Guys going for mitx build, should i go ryzen 5 or just i5? cant find any mitx board for Ryzen yet, stuff i'll reuse, Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse, 256GB SSD & GTX670. Please let me know if the below items is compatible with each other?

(Price from Viewnet)
CORE I5 7500 - 919
Asrock H270M-ITX/AC - 549
Kingston D4 16GB PC2133 - 499
Noctua NH-L9i - ???
Silverstone STRIDER GOLD SFX 450W - 449
Silverstone ML08 - ???

Should be around RM3k for the build, is this build ok? Or any other alternative?
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ITX board for AMD Ryzen platform is not available yet (unreleased).

All the items listed by you are compatible with each other.
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QUOTE(beebee @ Apr 17 2017, 02:24 PM)
Guys going for mitx build, should i go ryzen 5 or just i5? cant find any mitx board for Ryzen yet, stuff i'll reuse, Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse, 256GB SSD & GTX670. Please let me know if the below items is compatible with each other?

(Price from Viewnet)
CORE I5 7500 - 919
Asrock H270M-ITX/AC - 549
Kingston D4 16GB PC2133 - 499
Noctua NH-L9i - ???
Silverstone STRIDER GOLD SFX 450W - 449
Silverstone ML08 - ???

Should be around RM3k for the build, is this build ok? Or any other alternative?
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Wait for ryzen 5.

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