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MagnificM
post Mar 28 2017, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 09:52 PM)
by any chance should i pump more money into the processor with higher clock speed and reduce my fund on the graphic card?
or i should distribute the fund well between both?

since another sifu mention that graphic design is always on processor > ram > gpu
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i think the build quoted by TristanX is well balanced already. You can proceed with his quotation
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post Mar 29 2017, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 09:52 PM)
by any chance should i pump more money into the processor with higher clock speed and reduce my fund on the graphic card?
or i should distribute the fund well between both?

since another sifu mention that graphic design is always on processor > ram > gpu
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Just see these review if 1700X is worth RM300 more or 1800X is worth RM900 more or not

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-am...-1700x-and-1700
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-r...0-review,1.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/103270-a...-1700-14nm-zen/

Bare in mind 1700X and 1800X requires you to buy heatsink as well.
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post Mar 29 2017, 02:26 AM

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Budget] RM 4000 pc only not counting monitor

[Purpose] gaming, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render colour grading

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently]GTA V, battlefield 1, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render
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Will do !

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 28 2017, 11:39 PM)
i think the build quoted by TristanX is well balanced already. You can proceed with his quotation
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post Mar 29 2017, 06:28 AM

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Thanks !

Will check on it and see how's it !

QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 29 2017, 01:13 AM)
Just see these review if 1700X is worth RM300 more or 1800X is worth RM900 more or not

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-am...-1700x-and-1700
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-r...0-review,1.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/103270-a...-1700-14nm-zen/

Bare in mind 1700X and 1800X requires you to buy heatsink as well.
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post Mar 29 2017, 07:57 AM

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Hi guys, looking for a recommendation for a rig, laptop dying already.

Budget: RM2,500 - 3,000 (can go higher really need to dont want to keep changing) and already have peripherals

Purpose: Streaming movies, gaming (minimal), and work (only using office suite, no rendering etc)

Monitor resolution: - 1080

Games & softwares: streaming movies, excel, word, powerpoint. Gaming: shadow of war (in future), fps

Personal preferences: Personally I like those small cases, but I dont mind the normal tower ones.

Location: Kuala Lumpur

Thanks guys!
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post Mar 29 2017, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 29 2017, 02:26 AM)
Budget] RM 4000 pc only not counting monitor

[Purpose] gaming, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render colour grading

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently]GTA V, battlefield 1, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render
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Will use i7 instead of Ryzen in this build because budget AM4 mobo is nowhere to be found yet, as for the GPU, I'll pick GTX1060 over RX480 because GTA V favors Nvidia GPU heavily.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 3985 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(toiletmonkey @ Mar 29 2017, 07:57 AM)
Hi guys, looking for a recommendation for a rig, laptop dying already.

Budget: RM2,500 - 3,000 (can go higher really need to dont want to keep changing) and already have peripherals

Purpose: Streaming movies, gaming (minimal), and work (only using office suite, no rendering etc)

Monitor resolution: - 1080

Games & softwares: streaming movies, excel, word, powerpoint. Gaming: shadow of war (in future), fps

Personal preferences: Personally I like those small cases, but I dont mind the normal tower ones.

Location: Kuala Lumpur

Thanks guys!
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Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 589
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2464 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

You can add an SSD if you wish to spend more for a more responsive system (boot time & overall speed), SFF casing is also possible (depends on you).
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post Mar 29 2017, 10:21 AM

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Hey guys, an off topic question and trying to learn something here. I see there's virtually no suggestions for RX480/RX470 here. Despite its faster on newer API DX12/Vulkan (I know DX12 is a cluster fuck but still it's the future) and slightly cheaper. Also, get to utilize adaptive sync with lower budget (Freesync). Any idea why?
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post Mar 29 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 08:46 AM)
Will use i7 instead of Ryzen in this build because budget AM4 mobo is nowhere to be found yet, as for the GPU, I'll pick GTX1060 over RX480 because GTA V favors Nvidia GPU heavily.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149


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Can you suggest small form factor build? Such as node 202 case and a different mobo to fit

I'm aware my budget may go up a bit

This post has been edited by Lumiaaa: Mar 29 2017, 10:58 AM
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post Mar 29 2017, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 08:46 AM)
Will use i7 instead of Ryzen in this build because budget AM4 mobo is nowhere to be found yet, as for the GPU, I'll pick GTX1060 over RX480 because GTA V favors Nvidia GPU heavily.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 3985 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 29 2017, 10:56 AM)
Can you suggest small form factor build? Such as node 202 case and a different mobo to fit

I'm aware my budget may go up a bit
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As a node 202 caters for MITX mobo, an ASUS H110I-PLUS RM380 will do the job. As for PSU, you will need a SFX type, which costs more eg Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 600W RM589, Silverstone SFX 600W RM585. Note that the Node 202 also comes with its own PSU for RM669 but alas, it is only a 450W.

EDIT : You could consider the Node 304 (RM369) or CM Elite 130 (RM219), both of which can support ATX PSU

This post has been edited by richard912: Mar 29 2017, 11:15 AM
MagnificM
post Mar 29 2017, 02:42 PM

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would you get a used HDD ? is it reliable ?
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 02:42 PM)
would you get a used HDD ? is it reliable ?
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I normally would not. A HDD is used to store valuable data and one should not run the risk. Just my own practice.
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post Mar 29 2017, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 29 2017, 10:21 AM)
Hey guys, an off topic question and trying to learn something here. I see there's virtually no suggestions for RX480/RX470 here. Despite its faster on newer API DX12/Vulkan (I know DX12 is a cluster fuck but still it's the future) and slightly cheaper. Also, get to utilize adaptive sync with lower budget (Freesync). Any idea why?
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I can see 2 main reasons:

[Personal Preferences] <--- Most of the people here (the one who asks for suggestion) prefer Nvidia over AMD (don't shoot me innocent.gif ).

[Games & softwares] <--- Most of the time, it is occupied with "Nvidia" titles, hence more GTX1060 than RX480.

The budget range in this suggestion thread is mostly < 5k, that's one of the main reasons why FreeSync/GSync is not in the discussion, yup we know that FreeSync is cheaper than GSync by quite a large margin but 1080p 144Hz FreeSync still costs > 1k, it is not really that budget friendly unless FreeSync upgrade is specified purposely.

QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 29 2017, 10:56 AM)
Can you suggest small form factor build? Such as node 202 case and a different mobo to fit

I'm aware my budget may go up a bit
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Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
Corsair SF450 - RM 460
Fractal Design Node 202 - RM 379

Total: RM 4504 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 02:42 PM)
would you get a used HDD ? is it reliable ?
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How much cheaper is the used HDD compared to new HDD? If it is not too much then just get a new one laugh.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 03:24 PM)

How much cheaper is the used HDD compared to new HDD? If it is not too much then just get a new one  laugh.gif
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It was a WD Green 2Tb, it is sell for 200 only sweat.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 03:48 PM

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Hello, can recommend me 1.5K gaming rig. For my little sister, she want to play The Sims 4.

[Budget] 1.5k MAX

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] The Sims 4

[Location] Available Melaka, KL, Muar
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Been reading comments. So many conflicting views on Ryzen and i7.

So am i right to sum up that Ryzen is better than i7 in multitasking but falls short of i7 in gaming?

I am planning to build a PC to be used as my workstation and also for some gaming (CS:GO, Dota 2 and some MMORPGs).

Current PC is laggy (i5 2400) - mostly due to heat i guess, the temperature fluctuation is very high, causing lag spikes which annoy me a lot.

I open like 30 tabs in 2 of my browsers always and tens of Microsoft Excel, Word, Paint & few other programs.

I usually also keep games open without closing them.

Most importantly, i want to keep antivirus open without it slowing down my computer.

I also don't like my PC running hot as i think it causes spikes. So a build with aftermarket coolers is preferred.

In short, for the tasks that i have mentioned: Ryzen or i7?

Budget can be anywhere from 5K to 10K.

This build will be used for dual monitor setup. One for gaming (1080 TN), another for work and other stuffs (4K). Will run them together sometimes if i need to multitask heavily.

Thanks.


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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 03:30 PM)
It was a WD Green 2Tb, it is sell for 200 only  sweat.gif
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WD Green is a turtle, I'll spend more to get a 7,200 RPM HDD instead whistling.gif

QUOTE(NoKusshon @ Mar 29 2017, 03:48 PM)
Hello, can recommend me 1.5K gaming rig. For my little sister, she want to play The Sims 4.

[Budget] 1.5k MAX

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] The Sims 4

[Location] Available Melaka, KL, Muar
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The usual i3 7100 build will be sufficient, G4560 is also fine but since you are going to rely on iGPU for gaming, i3 7100's HD630 is faster than G4560's HD610.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 519
Asus H110M-K - RM 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 259
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
AVF PSU + Casing ~ RM 150

Total up will be around RM 1430 (Viewnet price).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 03:59 PM)
WD Green is a turtle, I'll spend more to get a 7,200 RPM HDD instead  whistling.gif

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even the version is the 7200rpm one ?
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post Mar 29 2017, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 03:24 PM)
I can see 2 main reasons:

[Personal Preferences] <--- Most of the people here (the one who asks for suggestion) prefer Nvidia over AMD (don't shoot me  innocent.gif ).

[Games & softwares] <--- Most of the time, it is occupied with "Nvidia" titles, hence more GTX1060 than RX480.

The budget range in this suggestion thread is mostly < 5k, that's one of the main reasons why FreeSync/GSync is not in the discussion, yup we know that FreeSync is cheaper than GSync by quite a large margin but 1080p 144Hz FreeSync still costs > 1k, it is not really that budget friendly unless FreeSync upgrade is specified purposely.
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Yeah. Malaysians are really butthurt about AMD. Nvidia kinda has that "prestige" status when comes to GPU. Nvidia titles aside, if ppl study the benchmarks in a while, as in 2016 vs 2017 benchmarks, RX480's performance is increasing gradually overtime when comparing to GTX1060, they're pretty much on par (sponsored titles like Hitman, RotTR aside. DX12/Vulkan is pretty a clear win for AMD

Speaking of Freesync monitors, sometimes non-adaptive sync monitor even more expensive than freesync monitor despite the similar specs. which I can't understand why. Freesync 144hz is kinda pointless as there's still no viable AMD GPU to feed that amount of framerates for newer games.

Hate it when ppl oppose my suggestion for AMD and insisting Nvidia is better without justifying why. The best they do is show me old benchmarks.
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QUOTE(Saladz @ Mar 29 2017, 03:53 PM)
Been reading comments. So many conflicting views on Ryzen and i7.

So am i right to sum up that Ryzen is better than i7 in multitasking but falls short of i7 in gaming?

I am planning to build a PC to be used as my workstation and also for some gaming (CS:GO, Dota 2 and some MMORPGs).

Current PC is laggy (i5 2400) - mostly due to heat i guess, the temperature fluctuation is very high, causing lag spikes which annoy me a lot.

I open like 30 tabs in 2 of my browsers always and tens of Microsoft Excel, Word, Paint & few other programs.

I usually also keep games open without closing them.

Most importantly, i want to keep antivirus open without it slowing down my computer.

I also don't like my PC running hot as i think it causes spikes. So a build with aftermarket coolers is preferred.

In short, for the tasks that i have mentioned: Ryzen or i7?

Budget can be anywhere from 5K to 10K.

This build will be used for dual monitor setup. One for gaming (1080 TN), another for work and other stuffs (4K). Will run them together sometimes if i need to multitask heavily.

Thanks.
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Ryzen wins in multithreaded/multicore application, most of the games out there aren't fully utilizing the extra core/thread of PC processor yet, hence the one with higher single core performance will win (just like CS:GO & Dota 2).

If you plan to overclock the CPU, then you'll need to get a decent 3rd party CPU cooler and mobo.

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 04:04 PM)
even the version is the 7200rpm one ?
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I'll request for HDD health and bad sector report first, at least I get to know the status of the HDD before I make the purchase right tongue.gif

QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 29 2017, 04:21 PM)
Yeah. Malaysians are really butthurt about AMD. Nvidia kinda has that "prestige" status when comes to GPU. Nvidia titles aside, if ppl study the benchmarks in a while, as in 2016 vs 2017 benchmarks, RX480's performance is increasing gradually overtime when comparing to GTX1060, they're pretty much on par (sponsored titles like Hitman, RotTR aside. DX12/Vulkan is pretty a clear win for AMD

Speaking of Freesync monitors, sometimes non-adaptive sync monitor even more expensive than freesync monitor despite the similar specs. which I can't understand why. Freesync 144hz is kinda pointless as there's still no viable AMD GPU to feed that amount of framerates for newer games.

Hate it when ppl oppose my suggestion for AMD and insisting Nvidia is better without justifying why. The best they do is show me old benchmarks.
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GPU technology is evolving rapidly and people tend to change their gaming card in one to two years of time so the performance that they can get NOW matters the most to them, things might change in the future when Nvidia fails to catch up in the DX12/Vulkan race when they become the primary API.

Avoid fighting with fanboy, pointless to argue with them laugh.gif

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