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post Feb 23 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Feb 23 2017, 11:07 AM)
Not like he did not pay to his housing loan.

EPF paid into his bank account then he pay his housing loan using the same bank account.

So how do you differentiate that money is from KWSP or his own savings?
P/S: I did the same thing, just that the EPF money goes into the loan account for regular installment instead of principal repayment and then free up my cash flow for the same purpose, UT.
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I sincerely agree with what you say. I assume every RM you withdraw from EPF you top up back the same amount into the housing loan first, then should be no way to penalise you.

The question is when you don't have as much and directly channel to UTF, or PRS or xyz vehicle.
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post Feb 23 2017, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 23 2017, 12:43 PM)
Do you have your portfolio on eUT, FSM or both ?
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post Feb 23 2017, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 23 2017, 12:44 PM)
He's a fund manager (or should be one smile.gif ) - he's more interested in doing all the detail stuff, not one to leave it to others smile.gif
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Suddenly this thread is quiet when he is not around ? tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 23 2017, 12:00 PM)
Wahai sahabat penjaga van,

If you desire and wish for exposure to US stock-market, would it not be more efficient to participate in TA GTF in lieu of CIMB GTF. TA has approximate 75% US exposure whereas CIMB GTF is 33% US.

But if 100% US exposure is one's desire and wish, then Manulife US is a better product for that purpose.

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My friend, I also need some exposure to global market like Japan and Europe as well. I don't have your bola besi to only invest in a few funds. biggrin.gif

That's why I chose TA GTF.
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post Feb 23 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 23 2017, 11:15 AM)
Thanks for the heads up.

p/s: care to reveal that's how many % of US focus switched out ?
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If you are referring to my RHB US Focus Equity Fund, I have switched out completely as well.

This is not because I believe the US market will correct itself soon. It may or may not. Only God knows. What I know is that I have made some profits and I need to increase my bond portfolio, i.e. to adjust my asset allocation.
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post Feb 23 2017, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 22 2017, 05:56 PM)
there's no set rule. some people really believe in FD they place whatever they have in FD in multiple certificates that mature at different months, others find the thrill of stock trading, others like us find it convenient to buy into fsm where as others love their cimb bank RM that they pay extra service for the special feeling

think about it this way,as long as are learning each day to be better than what you are yesterday and make every day count is the best investment that one can make.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 22 2017, 06:14 PM)
Not sifu. But let me share with you my story. Used to be 100% promo FD, then move 30% into Amanah saham fixed price. Was planning to move 100%. Found out about FSM so decide to divert the remaining 70% into FSM. Got as far as 30% then realise RM is dropping like dead flies against all currency. Switch my remaining 40% into SGD for SGX. Will move out my FSM portion to Singapore UT. Additionally 10% from amanah saham each into SGX and Singapore UT.

Reason for moving
1) I am trying to make sure inflation don't eat into my money
2) Protect my RM from continuous and futrue decline.

No point earning 5-7% (dividends) in KLSE and see your RM depreciate. Better earn 5-7% (dividends) in SGX and have your value protected. Same with UT. No point earning 10% in MY when you can earned the same 10% in SG.

As you can see it's not fixed. Up to individual prefences and need.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 22 2017, 06:15 PM)
100% in UTF.

0% in KLSE

0% in FD.

Many are confused with UTF, thinking that UTF is another asset class. To me UTF is a tool, a vault or a purse to hold my assets. UTF is not an asset class.

For example, if I want to hold cash or FD in normal everyday lingo, then I would participate in Money Market Fund.

For example, if I want to hold common stocks in KLSE, then I would participate in Kenanga Growth Fund.

For example, if I want to expose myself to US stock market, then I would participate in Manulife US Equity.

For example, if I want to collect rental from properties, then I would participate in AmReits.

Etc etc etc....

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 22 2017, 06:40 PM)
So from the responded postings......you will see the answers to your post is just individuals preference
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Thanks for sharing your insights notworthy.gif

Ramjade You are sifus to me as well! icon_rolleyes.gif

Will continue to learn from you all. notworthy.gif

Side note: xuzen From what I researched, Maybank GIA-i provide higher returns(little bit) than Money Market Fund and same level of liquidity as Money Market Fund, what do you think about this?

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Feb 23 2017, 05:51 PM)
Thanks for sharing your insights  notworthy.gif

Ramjade You are sifus to me as well! icon_rolleyes.gif

Will continue to learn from you all. notworthy.gif

Side note: xuzen From what I researched, Maybank GIA-i provide higher returns(little bit) than Money Market Fund and same level of liquidity as Money Market Fund, what do you think about this?
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Some here use CMF because they say is convenient. For me I choose eGIA-i.

My emergency cash is parked in eGIA-i. Reason for choosing eGIA-i over CMF
(i) higher return when compared to CMF at extra 0.2-0.3% difference
(ii) instant liquidity when compared to CMF. With CMF need to wait 2 days for the money to come back into your account.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 23 2017, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 23 2017, 06:00 PM)
Some here use CMF because they say is convenient. For me I choose eGIA-i.

My emergency cash is parked in eGIA-i. Reason for choosing eGIA-i over CMF
(i) higher return when compared to CMF at extra 0.2-0.3% difference
(ii) instant liquidity when compared to CMF. With CMF need to wait 2 days for the money to come back into your account.
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Exactly my thoughts. Thank you notworthy.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Feb 23 2017, 09:44 AM)
hopefully not poking at the hornet's nest, but where is chris lately? did he migrate to FSM singapore?
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He got the job.. probably under NDA now.. people who work in the UT industry can't really reveal their portfolios smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 23 2017, 06:00 PM)
Some here use CMF because they say is convenient. For me I choose eGIA-i.

My emergency cash is parked in eGIA-i. Reason for choosing eGIA-i over CMF
(i) higher return when compared to CMF at extra 0.2-0.3% difference
(ii) instant liquidity when compared to CMF. With CMF need to wait 2 days for the money to come back into your account.
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EGIA min is 5000. Why would you have Rm5000 emergency cash lol. I have Rm2000 emergency cash.. soon going to be less because there was an emergency smile.gif
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 23 2017, 07:09 PM)
He got the job.. probably under NDA now.. people who work in the UT industry can't really reveal their portfolios smile.gif
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No wonder some of the people here never reveal their portfolio. LOL.
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post Feb 23 2017, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 23 2017, 06:00 PM)
Some here use CMF because they say is convenient. For me I choose eGIA-i.

My emergency cash is parked in eGIA-i. Reason for choosing eGIA-i over CMF
(i) higher return when compared to CMF at extra 0.2-0.3% difference
(ii) instant liquidity when compared to CMF. With CMF need to wait 2 days for the money to come back into your account.
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The difference is so minimal, please choose conveneience over the small percentage gain. Choose which ever product that conmensurate with your lifestyle.

0.3% per annum is not going to make a huge lot of difference to retail participants. Unless you are a corporate client with a MYR 50M placement, then only talk. If not..... choose one which is convenient to you.

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post Feb 23 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 22 2017, 08:59 PM)
apparently selina fund is also giving distribution sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 22 2017, 09:02 PM)
AmAsia REITs too smile.gif
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Bagero!

AmAsia reits = Selina wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif fund!


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post Feb 23 2017, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 23 2017, 07:32 PM)
Bagero!

AmAsia reits = Selina  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif fund!
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LOL.. can't quite keep up with all the nicknames smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 23 2017, 07:33 PM)
LOL.. can't quite keep up with all the nicknames smile.gif
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Lai lai... I help you remember. Selina sezs Hi!
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post Feb 23 2017, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 23 2017, 07:32 PM)
Bagero!

AmAsia reits = Selina  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif fund!
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If am reits is still not performing, I am afraid she might lose her job soon. LOL.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 23 2017, 07:13 PM)
EGIA min is 5000. Why would you have Rm5000 emergency cash lol. I have Rm2000 emergency cash.. soon going to be less because there was an emergency smile.gif
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Excuse me. Only RM1k la. whistling.gif

QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 23 2017, 07:28 PM)
The difference is so minimal, please choose conveneience over the small percentage gain. Choose which ever product that conmensurate with your lifestyle.

0.3% per annum is not going to make a huge lot of difference to retail participants. Unless you are a corporate client with a MYR 50M placement, then only talk. If not..... choose one which is convenient to you.

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I choose eGIA-i because it's convenient to me ma. Can or not? I don't buy much UT.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 23 2017, 07:39 PM)
If am reits is still not performing, I am afraid she might lose her job soon. LOL.
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Friend! It is a REITS lar... it follows the pattern of fixed income fund. You want it to go sky rocketing meh? Unless she buys assets that are outside the unit trust mandate, then she betul - betul kena lose her job baru tau!

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 23 2017, 07:40 PM)
Excuse me. Only RM1k la. whistling.gif
I choose eGIA-i because it's convenient to me ma. Can or not? I don't buy much UT.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 23 2017, 07:39 PM)
If am reits is still not performing, I am afraid she might lose her job soon. LOL.
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It memang don't perform. mad.gif vmad.gif
Give only 1.2-1.3% when compare to manulife at 3.6x%. I have both. Same amount. Different time buying

QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 23 2017, 07:43 PM)
Friend! It is a REITS lar... it follows the pattern of fixed income fund. You want it to go sky rocketing meh? Unless she buys assets that are outside the unit trust mandate, then she betul - betul kena lose her job baru tau!

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Care to explain how manulife AP REITS is able to beat her? I hold both and manulife is giving 3.6x while Amasia is giving (-). Both same amount. Not sure if it's because of dividend (the negative return). Even if not negative, it's gave ~1.2-1.3% compare to manulife.

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