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post Aug 31 2017, 12:51 PM

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Best to take profits now, as we’re all a bit too relaxed about North Korea

‘Asian markets, and in particular South Korean assets, are especially vulnerable to a further deepening of the crisis’

Serious question: shall we?
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post Aug 31 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(cappuccino vs latte @ Aug 31 2017, 12:51 PM)
Best to take profits now, as we’re all a bit too relaxed about North Korea

‘Asian markets, and in particular South Korean assets, are especially vulnerable to a further deepening of the crisis’

Serious question: shall we?
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meh. weak hearted investors will run and be afraid.

true investors will take the chance to buy more
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post Aug 31 2017, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 31 2017, 12:56 PM)
meh. weak hearted investors will run and be afraid.

true investors will take the chance to buy more
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Good friend Avangelice,

What do you think, good friend, perhaps such an answer is not appropriate as it has no benefit to the reader. Perhaps, good friend, you may consider saying in an alternative way such as this:

"Such event is of little consequence to an investor who still is far away from retirement. This investor, perhaps is in the twenty something age, many winters and summers yet to experience before reaching retirement. He should not be overly concern with short term world 's ups and down.

However, for someone who is perhaps may need to use the money in six month or less, then such an investor is appropriate to watch the news more closely and react accordingly.

Weak or true is not an appropriate measure of an investor, length of time expected to hold the investment asset is a better gauge"

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post Aug 31 2017, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(cappuccino vs latte @ Aug 31 2017, 12:51 PM)
Best to take profits now, as we’re all a bit too relaxed about North Korea

‘Asian markets, and in particular South Korean assets, are especially vulnerable to a further deepening of the crisis’

Serious question: shall we?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 31 2017, 12:56 PM)
meh. weak hearted investors will run and be afraid.

true investors will take the chance to buy more
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 31 2017, 01:34 PM)
Good friend Avangelice,

What do you think, good friend, perhaps such an answer is not appropriate as it has no benefit to the reader. Perhaps, good friend, you may consider saying in an alternative way such as this:

"Such event is of little consequence to an investor who still is far away from retirement. This investor, perhaps is in the twenty something age, many winters and summers yet to experience before reaching retirement. He should not be overly concern with short term world 's ups and down.

However, for someone who is perhaps may need to use the money in six month or less, then such an investor is appropriate to watch the news more closely and react accordingly.

Weak or true is not an appropriate measure of an investor, length of time expected to hold the investment asset is a better gauge"

Xuzen
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hmm.gif I think one should just dig deeper to see how his actual port compositions are.....
I just checked mine......even though having multiple funds that has "link" to just Korea or North Asia region.....
the % allocated is just insignificants.....in terms of invested amount.

now the questions is...if there is really a war in NK....where or which region is not affected?
if really anticipating a war...Korea equity is NOT the only country equity one should get out of now....whether one is old or young.



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post Aug 31 2017, 02:00 PM

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Southeast Asian stocks: Longest winning streak in 5 years
31 Aug 2017 at 12:47
Southeast Asia is giving the rest of the Asia Pacific region a run for its money.
North Korea’s missile launches, US President Donald Trump’s “fire and fury” responses and the possibility of further tightening by the Federal Reserve aren’t holding back the equity markets in this part of the world.
The MSCI AC Asean Index has risen for eight consecutive trading sessions, making it the longest winning streak in about five years.
The region’s benchmark gauge has climbed 16% this year, the most since 2012, beating the MSCI World Index which is up 11%.

“The global goldilocks backdrop is conducive for emerging market outperformance because it is more likely for growth momentum to pick up before inflation and higher interest rates begin to be a threat,” said Alan Richardson, a fund manager at Samsung Asset Management whose Asean fund is beating 97% of its peers.

Geopolitical concerns aren’t weighing on southeast Asian equities as investors still believe they are “symbolic confrontations” rather than something that will lead to “genuine military conflict,” he added.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/news/1...reak-in-5-years

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post Aug 31 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 26 2017, 11:36 AM)
again you missed the point and didn't bother to read the article properly.

tldr.

don't time the markets. you will never know when it comes and when it does happen it would have recovered before you realized as you kept waiting for that 20% plunge. on top of that would you have enough cash to top up by then or would you sit on a huge chunk of your savings not doing anything.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 26 2017, 11:36 AM)
Yes...that is what alot of people saying before each and every crisis........it is during the crisis...one would know how well each of them had prepared to buying in terms of finance, mental, emotion, career, business standing if any, family, existing investment portfolio constraints, etc etc....
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this is the beauty of market, everyone has their own opinion and hence, the liquidity
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post Aug 31 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(galaxynote259 @ Aug 31 2017, 02:04 PM)
this is the beauty of market, everyone has their own opinion and hence, the liquidity
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yes, and thus the volatilities......
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post Sep 1 2017, 01:15 PM

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1) Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund
2) CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - MYR
3) Kenanga Growth Fund

Sifu here, any recommendation ?
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post Sep 1 2017, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(lcs89 @ Sep 1 2017, 01:15 PM)
Currently holding

1) Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund
2) CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - MYR
3) Kenanga Growth Fund

Sifu here, any recommendation ?
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what is the current % of allocation?
33.3% each?
if yes....most probably you are about 45% invested in M'sia

are you ok with that?
no right or wrong....

may i suggest that you refer to the individual fund factsheets then compile the data on each of their allocation into each countries the funds are currently invested in....
from that, you can see how and where your investment portfolio are being geared towards.....to determine if you are comfortable with you current holdings.

then if you believe FSM and want, you can try use the FSM star rating to determine the better potential countries to channel your monies to.

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post Sep 2 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 31 2017, 01:34 PM)
Good friend Avangelice,

What do you think, good friend, perhaps such an answer is not appropriate as it has no benefit to the reader. Perhaps, good friend, you may consider saying in an alternative way such as this:

"Such event is of little consequence to an investor who still is far away from retirement. This investor, perhaps is in the twenty something age, many winters and summers yet to experience before reaching retirement. He should not be overly concern with short term world 's ups and down.

However, for someone who is perhaps may need to use the money in six month or less, then such an investor is appropriate to watch the news more closely and react accordingly.

Weak or true is not an appropriate measure of an investor, length of time expected to hold the investment asset is a better gauge"


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Echoed my thoughts, everyone has their own risk appetite

This post has been edited by Krv23490: Sep 2 2017, 10:19 AM
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post Sep 2 2017, 11:19 AM

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It has been a suckish month. My port returned a below average return for the month of Aug 2017.

M-o-M ROI = 0.XX% equivalent to RM 1,XXX.XX

12 mths rolling average return is 7.5%, 10 out of 12 tracking months is positive. Only two months the port gave a negative ROI.

Port Risk to Reward Ratio = 2.5

The equities side dropped but is saved by the bond side.

Next week transaction:

Add RM 1,000.00 to TA Tech and IDS each. Skim profit of RM 500.00 from RHB EMB.

Xuzen

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post Sep 2 2017, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 2 2017, 11:19 AM)
It has been a suckish month. My port returned a below average return for the month of Aug 2017.
Should we take profits now?

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post Sep 2 2017, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 2 2017, 11:19 AM)
It has been a suckish month. My port returned a below average return for the month of Aug 2017.

M-o-M ROI = 0.XX% equivalent to RM 1,XXX.XX

12 mths rolling average return is 7.5%, 10 out of 12 tracking months is positive. Only two months the port gave a negative ROI.

Port Risk to Reward Ratio = 2.5

The equities side dropped but is saved by the bond side.

Next week transaction:

Add RM 1,000.00 to TA Tech and IDS each. Skim profit of RM 500.00 from RHB EMB.

Xuzen
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Sifu xuzen perhaps if you can share the 'skim profit' in terms of % in relation to the % of your allocation...would be more useful instead of absolute figure
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post Sep 2 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Sep 2 2017, 12:10 PM)
Sifu xuzen perhaps if you can share the 'skim profit' in terms of % in relation to the % of your allocation...would be more useful instead of absolute figure
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he has around 20k per fund if memory serves me correctly.

that 500 to 1000 is very little. no need to put in percentage
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post Sep 2 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 2 2017, 12:16 PM)
he has around 20k per fund if memory serves me correctly.

that 500 to 1000 is very little. no need to put in percentage
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Where got so little?
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post Sep 2 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 2 2017, 12:26 PM)
Where got so little?
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when you come to that age 500 myr is nothing am I right? where as to a student 500 myr is everything *cough* cough*
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post Sep 2 2017, 12:49 PM

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I think Xuzen meant RM20k per fund is too little (for his age group).

If a person has only around RM100k (RM20k x 5 funds) in investments or savings in his mid or late 40's, he is in trouble. The money is not enough to form the base for his retirement.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 2 2017, 12:49 PM)
I think Xuzen meant RM20k per fund is too little (for his age group).

If a person has only around RM100k (RM20k x 5 funds) in investments or savings in his mid or late 40's, he is in trouble. The money is not enough to form the base for his retirement.
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U already get 20% of ur monthly salary from force savings by our government. I believe it depends on what u are heavy at. Some only have 100k cash investments and savings but maybe 3-4properties each ranging from 500k-700k bank value, does it means he is in trouble?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 2 2017, 11:19 AM)
It has been a suckish month. My port returned a below average return for the month of Aug 2017.

M-o-M ROI = 0.XX% equivalent to RM 1,XXX.XX

12 mths rolling average return is 7.5%, 10 out of 12 tracking months is positive. Only two months the port gave a negative ROI.

Port Risk to Reward Ratio = 2.5

The equities side dropped but is saved by the bond side.

Next week transaction:

Add RM 1,000.00 to TA Tech and IDS each. Skim profit of RM 500.00 from RHB EMB.

Xuzen
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Ikrrrr......


Emb and manureits poor for the past 2 weeks. Others follow suit.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 2 2017, 12:49 PM)
I think Xuzen meant RM20k per fund is too little (for his age group).

If a person has only around RM100k (RM20k x 5 funds) in investments or savings in his mid or late 40's, he is in trouble. The money is not enough to form the base for his retirement.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 2 2017, 01:17 PM)
U already get 20% of ur monthly salary from force savings by our government. I believe it depends on what u are heavy at. Some only have 100k cash investments and savings but maybe 3-4properties each ranging from 500k-700k bank value, does it means he is in trouble?
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hmm.gif I re-looked the whole Vanguard's post......looks like he is "Implying" net asset......
what do you and others think? hmm.gif


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