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post Feb 17 2017, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 17 2017, 04:17 PM)
who knows when climax...

just as I slowly buy .. now slowly sell...

happy see the +20% + 30% if dun take profit..
and dun monitor.. then one day open platform become NEGATIVE again..


thats my experience....
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Really ? Which funds are they ? Not the gold fund gua ? tongue.gif

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post Feb 17 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 17 2017, 04:17 PM)
who knows when climax...

just as I slowly buy .. now slowly sell...

happy see the +20% + 30% if dun take profit..
and dun monitor.. then one day open platform become NEGATIVE again..

thats my experience....
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My very very small investment saw 30% return so take profit?

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post Feb 17 2017, 04:46 PM

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Just top up again to ponzi 2.0 today. May the green force continues
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post Feb 17 2017, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Feb 17 2017, 04:46 PM)
Just top up again to ponzi 2.0 today. May the green force continues
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Me too. Last day of promo in eUT.

Wanted to top up India, but missed it, top up ponzi 2.0 instead.
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post Feb 17 2017, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 17 2017, 01:17 PM)
thanks sold 20k, switched 20k, cant be too greedy.
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Sounds like a good move. thumbsup.gif
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post Feb 17 2017, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 01:37 PM)
previously with Prudential 350 and coverage was only 50k to 100k

now with fsm under MCIS,  it's 250 and coverage is now 1.5 million.

the large difference in coverage because my damn Prudential agent signed me up to for 5 different riders and along with an LP. I told fsm I am going to plan for my retirement and my insurance will be for medical please don't get me all the bs riders I don't need.
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Pay rm250 for how long? How many years?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 17 2017, 05:49 PM)
Pay rm250 for how long? How many years?
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coverage until I'm 70 if I'm not mistaken. continuous payment as this is solely a medical coverage since I'm already in the medical field I can take care of myself but just worried about the organs and cancer.
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post Feb 17 2017, 06:04 PM

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Guys,

I just opened an account. Main goal to invest in bond funds with nett return of 5% after all deductions I have other investments in equity, property, etc. I am mulling the following:

Affin Hwang Select Bond - 17.5%
KAF Bond - 17.5%
Libra Asnita Bond - 17.5%
RHB Islamic Bond - 17.5%
RHB Emerging Markets Bond - 30%

In short, Malaysia 70% and emerging markets 30%. All bond funds.

Thoughts or suggestions most welcome and appreciated.

Matt
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post Feb 17 2017, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 17 2017, 06:04 PM)
Guys,

I just opened an account. Main goal to invest in bond funds with nett return of 5% after all deductions I have other investments in equity, property, etc. I am mulling the following:

Affin Hwang Select Bond - 17.5%
KAF Bond - 17.5%
Libra Asnita Bond - 17.5%
RHB Islamic Bond - 17.5%
RHB Emerging Markets Bond - 30%

In short, Malaysia 70% and emerging markets 30%. All bond funds.

Thoughts or suggestions most welcome and appreciated.

Matt
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hmmm... interesting. never seen someone doing all bonds. I would suggest you either back Libra asnita over kaf reasoning risk to return ratio.

also 30% to esther bond
30% rhb emerging market bond
20% to Anita bond
20% to rhb islamic
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:07 PM)
hmmm... interesting. never seen someone doing all bonds. I would suggest you either back Libra asnita over kaf reasoning risk to return ratio.

also 30% to esther bond
30% rhb emerging market bond
20% to Anita bond
20% to rhb islamic
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Thanks for the feedback. Mind to elaborate on the risk to return ratio? According to FSM site, Anita has slightly higher 3 yr risk-return ratio compared to KAF.
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QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 17 2017, 06:36 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. Mind to elaborate on the risk to return ratio? According to FSM site, Anita has slightly higher 3 yr risk-return ratio compared to KAF.
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oh really? pardon my mistake then as i always thought Anita would be a better performer....unless....

head to fsm. look for the fund selector tool and select all bonds you are interested in. it will give you a snapshot of their possible performance
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post Feb 17 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 17 2017, 06:04 PM)
Guys,

I just opened an account. Main goal to invest in bond funds with nett return of 5% after all deductions I have other investments in equity, property, etc. I am mulling the following:

Affin Hwang Select Bond - 17.5%
KAF Bond - 17.5%
Libra Asnita Bond - 17.5%
RHB Islamic Bond - 17.5%
RHB Emerging Markets Bond - 30%

In short, Malaysia 70% and emerging markets 30%. All bond funds.

Thoughts or suggestions most welcome and appreciated.

Matt
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According to portfolio simulator, you can get 7.9% return with 3.34% volatility.

That should already exceeded your expectation. LOL.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 17 2017, 06:55 PM)
According to portfolio simulator, you can get 7.9% return with 3.34% volatility.

That should already exceeded your expectation. LOL.
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theoretically can we just invest our entire diversified portfolio via bond funds? I mean does it beat other investment vehicles like epf
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post Feb 17 2017, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:59 PM)
theoretically can we just invest our entire diversified portfolio via bond funds? I mean does it beat other investment vehicles like epf
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The sentence must be read in whole, ie if return is 7.9% and volatility is 3.34%, there is a chance one might get the worst case 7.9-3.34, which is worse than EPF.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:42 PM)
oh really? pardon my mistake then as i always thought Anita would be a better performer....unless....

head to fsm. look for the fund selector tool and select all bonds you are interested in. it will give you a snapshot of their possible performance
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Thanks again.
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post Feb 17 2017, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 17 2017, 06:55 PM)
According to portfolio simulator, you can get 7.9% return with 3.34% volatility.

That should already exceeded your expectation. LOL.
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Thanks for the tip about the simulator.

Look forward to many stimulating discussions and exchange of ideas on this site.
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QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 17 2017, 06:04 PM)
...... Main goal to invest in bond funds with nett return of 5% after all deductions I have other investments in equity, property, etc. I am mulling the following:
............
Thoughts or suggestions most welcome and appreciated.
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hmm.gif if aiming for just 5% returns.....
I would aim for ASNx Fixed Priced funds.....
if I am at retirement age I would self top up into KWSP


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post Feb 17 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:07 PM)
hmmm... interesting. never seen someone doing all bonds. I would suggest you either back Libra asnita over kaf reasoning risk to return ratio.

also 30% to esther bond
30% rhb emerging market bond
20% to Anita bond
20% to rhb islamic
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I would suggest the following if you have > myr 10k for each fund:

25% esther bond
25% rhb emerging market bond
25% anita
25% united asian high yield bond

otherwise the above is fine smile.gif

QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 17 2017, 06:36 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. Mind to elaborate on the risk to return ratio? According to FSM site, Anita has slightly higher 3 yr risk-return ratio compared to KAF.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:42 PM)
oh really? pardon my mistake then as i always thought Anita would be a better performer....unless....

head to fsm. look for the fund selector tool and select all bonds you are interested in. it will give you a snapshot of their possible performance
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QUOTE(mattalex @ Feb 17 2017, 07:09 PM)
Thanks again.
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ERM wrong wrong wrong bruce.gif (dont mislead sweat.gif)

RIsk return ratio is the amount of return per risk

Higher risk return ratio means that given the same risk, anita give higher return compared to KAF bond

Or for the same amount of return, anita is less volatile than KAF bond

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 17 2017, 06:59 PM)
theoretically can we just invest our entire diversified portfolio via bond funds? I mean does it beat other investment vehicles like epf
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Of course. Perfect example rhb islamic bond fund/affin hwang select bond.
If you are feeling adventurous, try united asian hy bond devil.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 17 2017, 07:32 PM)
I would suggest the following if you have > myr 10k for each fund:

25% esther bond
25% rhb emerging market bond
25% anita
25% united asian high yield bond

otherwise the above is fine smile.gif
ERM wrong wrong wrong  bruce.gif (dont mislead sweat.gif)

RIsk return ratio is the amount of return per risk

Higher risk return ratio means that given the same risk, anita give higher return compared to KAF bond

Or for the same amount of return, anita is less volatile than KAF bond
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Risk return ratio should be called return risk ratio to avoid misleading people. LOL.

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