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soonwai
post Nov 7 2025, 10:59 PM


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Finally put everything together. Got the parts over the last 3-4 weeks from Shopee. Took time bcos only buy with vouchers. Looking good so far. Still using the supplied Wraith Stealth.

Ryzen 5 7500F MPK c/w Wraith Stealth [RM511.84]
MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi [RM529.60]
Klevv Cras V 32GB Kit CL28 [RM489]
Super Flower Leadex III 850W [RM334]
WD SN850X 2TB (bought April last year) [RM480.37]

Use back:
Tecware Quad case
RX 6600 XT
KC3000 1TB

Incoming:
Gigabyte RX 9060 XT Gaming OC 16GB [RM]
Thermalright BA120 [RM]

My last AMD processor was Athlon64. Such a long time ago. Anyway this replaces the 12400F which replaces the 10400F which was sold off.

Documenting temps now before putting in a better cooler. Also power consumption. My TNB bill really gg for this month.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Nov 7 2025, 11:06 PM
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post Nov 8 2025, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 7 2025, 06:23 PM)
1.7k for the 9800x3d? is that tray? if i knew i'd buy that.

right now i'm using a 7800x3d and tbh i get the fps for apex legend which is really all i play. so not too big a loss :/
i saw those rm, 800 16tbs or similar to it. not gonna do that again. high chance those are used with the smart reseted. AND/OR they also have issue with warranty. EVEN IF, they claim got store warranty, THATS BS. and if u ask shopee to help in 1-2 year even during the valid store warranty, shopee wont help u.

cheapest i found from reliable source is rm 1.6k i dont like the price but what to do. i need the drive but i dont want a NO warranty. shopee is useless.
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the 9800x3d is the box type. it is near to RM1.7K because of shopee voucher. not much difference in reality between the 7800x3d.

I just gamble on those RM800 HDD becoz a new one with warranty cost more than double. the one I bought already stated used for 20+K hours which the smart was not reseted. Not thinking about warranty in my case. gonna be mirroring it in my config.
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post Nov 8 2025, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Nov 7 2025, 10:59 PM)
Finally put everything together. Got the parts over the last 3-4 weeks from Shopee. Took time bcos only buy with vouchers. Looking good so far. Still using the supplied Wraith Stealth.

Ryzen 5 7500F MPK c/w Wraith Stealth [RM511.84]
MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi [RM529.60]
Klevv Cras V 32GB Kit CL28 [RM489]
Super Flower Leadex III 850W [RM334]
WD SN850X 2TB (bought April last year) [RM480.37]

Use back:
Tecware Quad case
RX 6600 XT
KC3000 1TB

Incoming:
Gigabyte RX 9060 XT Gaming OC 16GB [RM]
Thermalright BA120 [RM]

My last AMD processor was Athlon64. Such a long time ago. Anyway this replaces the 12400F which replaces the 10400F which was sold off.

Documenting temps now before putting in a better cooler. Also power consumption. My TNB bill really gg for this month.
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Not sure why your power use GG coz 7500F is same TDP as your old 12400F.
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post Nov 8 2025, 10:31 AM


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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Nov 8 2025, 09:32 AM)
Not sure why your power use GG coz 7500F is same TDP as your old 12400F.
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Sorry for not being clear. My main is Macmini M1 and the last few days, I've been using the 7500F a lot and running Cinebench. So using quite a fair bit of power. sweat.gif

For normal stuff like browsing and YT in Chrome/Safari, Excel & file management. The 7500F uses 94Wh and the Mac 12Wh. The 12400F iirc was about the same, maybe 5-10Wh less than the 7500F.

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post Nov 8 2025, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Nov 8 2025, 10:31 AM)
Sorry for not being clear. My main is Macmini M1 and the last few days, I've been using the 7500F a lot and running Cinebench. So using quite a fair bit of power. sweat.gif

For normal stuff like browsing and YT in Chrome/Safari, Excel & file management. The 7500F uses 94Wh and the Mac 12Wh. The 12400F iirc was about the same, maybe 5-10Wh less than the 7500F.

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I see. Macmini is use laptop hardware so cant compare efficiency with desktop PC however our energy cost is dirt cheap and subsidised up to a certain level so unless your using 14900K + 5090 running benches all day everyday, I dont think TNB will significantly more expensive. Then again maybe your case extra RM10 is a lot so yeah YMMV..

Your RAM price is very cheap compared todays pricing in market.
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post Nov 8 2025, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Nov 8 2025, 09:32 AM)
Not sure why your power use GG coz 7500F is same TDP as your old 12400F.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Nov 8 2025, 10:31 AM)
Sorry for not being clear. My main is Macmini M1 and the last few days, I've been using the 7500F a lot and running Cinebench. So using quite a fair bit of power. sweat.gif

For normal stuff like browsing and YT in Chrome/Safari, Excel & file management. The 7500F uses 94Wh and the Mac 12Wh. The 12400F iirc was about the same, maybe 5-10Wh less than the 7500F.

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All Ryzen that isn't mono die has poor idle power consumption. 7500F is one of them.

M4 is very efficient. Great for light to medium uses. Until both AMD and Intel gets the lithography same as Apple chip and tunes against it. It is currently power consumption champ for light uses.
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post Nov 9 2025, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 8 2025, 04:04 PM)
All Ryzen that isn't mono die has poor idle power consumption. 7500F is one of them.

M4 is very efficient. Great for light to medium uses. Until both AMD and Intel gets the lithography same as Apple chip and tunes against it. It is currently power consumption champ for light uses.
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More like if x86 incumbents don't try to clock chips to the moon and breaks efficiency. Seriously what's with the obsession for CPUs to clock over 5+ GHz and all we get end up with exponentially higher power consumption with minimal performance increments? sweat.gif
The upcoming Panther Lake chips are very interesting, it should be a solid WoA competitor if Intel doesn't screw things up icon_idea.gif

Zen 6 improved I/O die may resolve some of the high idle power consumption however hmm.gif

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post Nov 10 2025, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Nov 8 2025, 02:08 AM)
the 9800x3d is the box type. it is near to RM1.7K because of shopee voucher. not much difference in reality between the 7800x3d.

I just gamble on those RM800 HDD becoz a new one with warranty cost more than double. the one I bought already stated used for 20+K hours which the smart was not reseted. Not thinking about warranty in my case. gonna be mirroring it in my config.
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i gambled on those hdd, and none of them were good.

just cause u see smart is showing everything is new, doesnt mean it is.

example, mine showed in farm stats, 4 years power on cycle. and the all the smarts got reset back to 0. so u cant even tell the condition simply because smart says its ok, when in fact it may be on the cusp of dying. a few died so... u arent getting a good deal. trust me i know cause i actually tried it and lost sweat.gif

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post Nov 10 2025, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 10 2025, 05:21 AM)
i gambled on those hdd, and none of them were good.

just cause u see smart is showing everything is new, doesnt mean it is.

example, mine showed in farm stats, 4 years power on cycle. and the all the smarts got reset back to 0. so u cant even tell the condition simply because smart says its ok, when in fact it may be on the cusp of dying. a few died so... u arent getting a good deal. trust me i know cause i actually tried it and lost  sweat.gif
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Great point there. But getting a 16TB with warranty is extremely expensive. Easily more than RM2K and above. Any recommendation where to get them at a reasonable price?
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post Nov 10 2025, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 10 2025, 05:21 AM)
i gambled on those hdd, and none of them were good.

just cause u see smart is showing everything is new, doesnt mean it is.

example, mine showed in farm stats, 4 years power on cycle. and the all the smarts got reset back to 0. so u cant even tell the condition simply because smart says its ok, when in fact it may be on the cusp of dying. a few died so... u arent getting a good deal. trust me i know cause i actually tried it and lost  sweat.gif
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Not to say its a scam but realistically these enterprise/server HDDs had hard life running 24/7 in I guess hot stuffy racks. Their retired for a reason, obviously when close to its MTBF or else had started showing failure signs. However while being operational these are still suited for cold data storage, archiving, or home use where data transference not as intense as being in another server or NAS.

I do agree with you that SMART in that case shouldnt be tampered rather buyers should be aware what their getting & risk involved.
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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Nov 10 2025, 10:58 AM)
Great point there. But getting a 16TB with warranty is extremely expensive. Easily more than RM2K and above. Any recommendation where to get them at a reasonable price?
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post Nov 10 2025, 01:16 PM

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Some updates. Yeah, around 50-75% less power than 5900X setup.

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post Nov 10 2025, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Nov 10 2025, 10:58 AM)
Great point there. But getting a 16TB with warranty is extremely expensive. Easily more than RM2K and above. Any recommendation where to get them at a reasonable price?
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i need to buy 12tb. so choice is seagate ironwolf non pro or western digital plus.

cheapest i saw was a western digital plus 12tb at computer zone lowyat. not on shopee, u have to get in person from lowyat.

prices on shopee is all like 1.7k -1.8k

But if u go to the official distributor, i was told the price for seagate ironwolf, can get slightly under rm 1.6k

For western digital plus is 1.5k


thats the cheapest official.... as in the distributors/resellers officially.



some sellers on shopee they claim they source from the official distributors. whether that is true no idea. but the thing is, if they lied and later in few years u got to claim warranty then u find out u got scam, think shopee will save you? they wont. so why take any chances unless u know for 100% sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 10 2025, 03:37 PM)
i need to buy 12tb. so choice is seagate ironwolf non pro or western digital plus.

cheapest i saw was a western digital plus 12tb at computer zone lowyat. not on shopee, u have to get in person from lowyat.

prices on shopee is all like 1.7k -1.8k

But if u go to the official distributor, i was told the price for seagate ironwolf, can get slightly under rm 1.6k

For western digital plus is 1.5k
thats the cheapest official.... as in the distributors/resellers officially.
some sellers on shopee they claim they source from the official distributors. whether that is true no idea. but the thing is, if they lied and later in few years u got to claim warranty then u find out u got scam, think shopee will save you? they wont. so why take any chances unless u know for 100%  sweat.gif
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You cant get below distro prices. If you think its expensive at least you know why.
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can get around RM1750 9800x3d

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post Nov 10 2025, 08:48 PM

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I think ppl say US can get much cheaper is like ppl no check latest price. It is not much cheaper, it is cheaper in msia
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Price about the same now or a bit cheaper. Better just buy locally than Amazon.
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post Nov 11 2025, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 10 2025, 08:48 PM)
I think ppl say US can get much cheaper is like ppl no check latest price. It is not much cheaper, it is cheaper in msia
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During Black Friday or Prime Day sales, its defo much cheaper than here (even with our perpetual megasales).

 

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