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chocobo7779
post Jun 12 2019, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 27 2019, 04:56 PM)
GG Intel:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-...llout,6146.html
https://www.techspot.com/article/1850-how-s...yper-threading/
Yeah, I'm interested with R9 too.

AMD will gain even more ground:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-third...-cpu,39449.html
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The even worse problem is such mitigation will require turning off HyperThreading, which means your i7 will become an i5 (with the exception of the 9th gen model), or an i9 becomes a souped up i7 sweat.gif

Also, the performance hit is quite significant in some cases:


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post Jun 12 2019, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Jun 12 2019, 09:04 AM)
You sure the X370 board can support Ryzen 3000-series?  Initially X370 was rumoured to support Ryzen 3000-series but the latest news seems suggest otherwise.  Only X470 onwards will support Ryzen 3000 series.  I am not too sure of the final outcome though, let's see how it turns out later.
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All X370/X470/B450 boards will do Ryzen 3000 series, and some B350 boards will do as well. The reason why not all AM4 boards can support Ryzen 3000 is due to the fact that the onboard BIOS chip does not have sufficient space for the new CPU microcode icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 12 2019, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(dexeric @ Jun 12 2019, 01:15 PM)
I am planning to buy r7 3700x to replace my r5 1600x in the rog strix b350-f gaming... i am sure it will supported with bios update... but now i wonder if r7 3800x will do any better... planning to stick on stock clock although the motherboard can auto overclock ...
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Should be OK, although you may want to ask ASUSmy to confirm as not all B350 boards can do Ryzen 3000 icon_idea.gif

https://www.asus.com/my/Motherboards/ROG-ST.../HelpDesk_BIOS/
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post Jun 21 2019, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(BlackJake21 @ Jun 14 2019, 12:28 PM)
hi sifu2 and daiko, would like to ask for yr recommendation.

this is my current setup.

i5 3570k@4.3Ghz
Asrock z77 Extreme 4
Corsair vengeance 4GB 1600Mhz *4
Croyorig A40 AIO
Sapphire RX580 8GB Nitro+
Silverstone StriderGold 750w
1* SATA3 SSD, 1*7200rpm Hard Disk

my plan is to upgrade to 3600x , add in 1* M.2 PCIe SSD.

Do i really need PCIe 4.0 on x570 chipset? or x470 will do ?

Trident Z Royal supported or able to hit rated speed on x470? or have to go for Trident Z for AMD ? The price different byk juga..

A40 AIO cooler good enuf to handle 3600x for OC? If no then i will consider Alphacool 360 AIO.

Sorry for so many questions..
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1. Answering your PCI-E 4.0 question - no, you'll likely won't need PCI-E 4.0 unless you want to use PCI-E 4.0 SSDs. Even a RTX 2080 Ti only suffers from small bottlenecks moving from 3.0 x16 to 3.0 x4:
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So yes, a X470 chipset will do just fine - just make sure you get one with a decent VRM onboard icon_idea.gif

2. Not too sure on RAM
3. Depends how much you want to overclock - do make sure that other parts such as the VRM stays cool as well icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 21 2019, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 16 2019, 07:17 PM)
Don't think you will get a X570 board at that price. Just get X470, B550 only comes next year.
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Even the X570 features such as PCI-E 4.0 are not exactly worth it at this moment icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 4 2019, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Chosen one @ Jul 4 2019, 04:00 AM)
whats the use of pcie 4? we normal gamer dont need that fast right ?
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Unless you want PCI-E 4.0 SSDs, for most users you can just settle with a PCI-E 3.x board (B450/X470) icon_idea.gif

Even the RTX 2080 Ti barely saturates a PCI-E 3.0 x4 link icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 4 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jul 4 2019, 11:59 AM)
Look at Taiwan released pricing for Ryzen 3000 series CPU, https://news.xfastest.com/amd/66703/amd-ryz...qpAl2Vy0h1sFp94
I guess our local prices will be more or less similar, this is really not a good sign for me sad.gif
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Note: I think those are preliminary pricing since it is quite a bit higher (likely due to retailer markups) than the RRP icon_idea.gif

Just wait for the official release here icon_idea.gif



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Also, those who are buying an AM4 board may want to look at this guide for picking a board with decent VRMs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c7qj5...ou_decide_on_a/

The spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_...t#gid=639584818
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post Jul 4 2019, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Chosen one @ Jul 4 2019, 03:49 PM)
btw so should i go b450 or x470 ?


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Depends on brand though - some X470 boards may have worst VRM cooling than some B450 ones icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 4 2019, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(KahVII @ Jul 4 2019, 07:39 PM)
Did you preorder oversea or in shop based in Malaysia? Mind sharing which shop if it’s Malaysian based?

Interested in getting 3700x but seems like local retailers no info at all yet if they’ll be releasing on 7/7
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Likely under NDA so cannot release the actual pricing for now icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(llk @ Jul 4 2019, 07:40 PM)
If that is the case,  Amazon or Newegg then
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Warranty and shipping would be an issue sweat.gif

Also I believe if the board has WiFi/Bluetooth then you need to add RM106 for SIRIM certification icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 6 2019, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 6 2019, 10:27 AM)
Wait for review to see whether it is worth for you to upgrade.

Anyway, anyone knows if any local distributor have ryzen 3rd gen by next week? Or Malaysia gotta wait much longer?
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They should have it, but I think they cannot release the pricing because under NDA hmm.gif

Even Idealtech has posted a picture of X570 board on Facebook yesterday hmm.gif
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post Jul 6 2019, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Jul 6 2019, 11:08 AM)
Lets see local suppliers will really have all cpus starting Sunday or rather Monday.

Pictures of motherboards should be no problem, they just can't power it up and disclose that.

However... in few other countries asrock boards are already being delivered to customers though. Refer this x570 taichi  rolleyes.gif

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hmm.gif Also Idealtech has posted another X570 teaser on Facebook and they are going to release the pricing tomorrow hmm.gif
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post Jul 6 2019, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jul 6 2019, 11:54 AM)

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Price already leak just 1 day before launch laugh.gif
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post Jul 7 2019, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ Jul 6 2019, 09:42 PM)
Is it safe to purchase MB from taobao? What about the warranty??
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Mostly safe - but shipping and warranty would be a different story altogether icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 7 2019, 12:14 PM

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Any deals on Shopee/Lazada right now for PC parts? Might want to get a B450 board and 16GB DDR4 hmm.gif
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post Jul 7 2019, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jul 7 2019, 01:57 PM)
This should be the real pricing
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Still need CPU pricing - we'll know for sure tonight brows.gif
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post Jul 7 2019, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 7 2019, 06:25 PM)
I need an itx board.
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Some PC shops do have BIOS flashing service - you may want to ask them whether they offer this service or not icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 7 2019, 09:13 PM

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Pricing looks better than expected brows.gif
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jul 7 2019, 09:50 PM)
The PBO already do the job for you.

Looks like there is no decent X570 M-ATX board, probably will get B450M Mortar (Titanium if possible) + 3700X and start spawning multiple VMs concurrently.  biggrin.gif
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Wasn't that titanium is just the mortar with a different color scheme? hmm.gif
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