QUOTE(wira_laju @ Feb 17 2017, 08:17 PM)
iirc all Ryzen multiplier unlockAMD Ryzen, AM4 Platform
AMD Ryzen, AM4 Platform
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Feb 17 2017, 08:21 PM
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Feb 17 2017, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(wira_laju @ Feb 17 2017, 08:17 PM) All ryzen is overclockable...http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-ryzen-cpu...d-overclocking/ |
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Feb 17 2017, 08:28 PM
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I do hope that Ryzen in MY are not getting jack up prices during launching periods.
Everytimes when there is a hyped product appeared, that product price is going to jack up... e.g PS4 pro, Nintendo Switch, newer Iphone (non MY official), & etc. This post has been edited by yhsiau: Feb 17 2017, 08:29 PM |
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Feb 17 2017, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Feb 17 2017, 08:28 PM) I hope that Ryzen in MY are getting jack up prices during launching periods. Despite the hype though... AMD Ryzen forgot to compete in the G series Pentium category. Probably might lose a lot of sales if I see it that way. Everyone who wants Ryzen would rather go G series Intel (4560 , 4600 , 4620) and that is why Intel wasn't so challenged by it or rather.Everytimes when there is a hyped product appeared, that product price is going to jack up... e.g PS4 pro, Nintendo Switch, newer Iphone (non MY official), & etc. |
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Feb 17 2017, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 17 2017, 08:31 PM) Despite the hype though... AMD Ryzen forgot to compete in the G series Pentium category. Probably might lose a lot of sales if I see it that way. Everyone who wants Ryzen would rather go G series Intel (4560 , 4600 , 4620) and that is why Intel wasn't so challenged by it or rather. I think AMD might use its incoming Zen APU to tackle Intel G series of products.Imagine polaris GPU embedded with Zen CPU... wishful thinking heheheeheh I forgot that Ryzen will have 3 series of product. (3, 5, 7) just like the Intel Core I series. Here is the leak: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-benchmark-leak/ Original source is from china... that thread is deleted. This post has been edited by yhsiau: Feb 17 2017, 09:02 PM |
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Feb 17 2017, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Feb 17 2017, 08:59 PM) I think AMD might use its incoming Zen APU to tackle Intel G series of products. I was hoping to go for Ryzen but if it's above the budget of mine, going for the Pentium G is actually in the mind (many might have forgotten, it was released this year!). Intel isn't going to lose this war actually like what they always say.Imagine polaris GPU embedded with Zen CPU... wishful thinking heheheeheh I forgot that Ryzen will have 3 series of product. (3, 5, 7) just like the Intel Core I series. Here is the leak: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-benchmark-leak/ Original source is from china... that thread is deleted. Maybe for the i5 to i7 parts, they shall lose for those wanting to spend RM5xxx to RM10xxx, feel free to vouch Ryzen then. |
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Feb 18 2017, 08:40 PM
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I dont think Intel will lose to AMD anytime soon. They're too embedded in the industry for now, and have been known to illegally force OEMs to use their processors instead of AMD. they have the cash to do it, too.
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Feb 18 2017, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Feb 18 2017, 08:40 PM) I dont think Intel will lose to AMD anytime soon. They're too embedded in the industry for now, and have been known to illegally force OEMs to use their processors instead of AMD. they have the cash to do it, too. They won't lose la. All the while they are having majority share wad.Now its good that AMD come out with something to compete them abit. End user will have benefits in term is more competitive pricing n better performance for both brands. |
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Feb 18 2017, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 17 2017, 08:31 PM) Despite the hype though... AMD Ryzen forgot to compete in the G series Pentium category. Probably might lose a lot of sales if I see it that way. Everyone who wants Ryzen would rather go G series Intel (4560 , 4600 , 4620) and that is why Intel wasn't so challenged by it or rather. Ryzen dont hv integrated GPU.Ryzen is meant to be enthusiast platform. Majority of us has dicrete GPU. Low end should include iGPU, therefore its the job of the APU to compete with the pentium and celeron. |
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Feb 18 2017, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Feb 18 2017, 08:40 PM) I dont think Intel will lose to AMD anytime soon. They're too embedded in the industry for now, and have been known to illegally force OEMs to use their processors instead of AMD. they have the cash to do it, too. It depends on which segment. Enterprise market, no way amd can defeat intel at least 10 years. The Xeon server and workstation market is more than 90% dominated by intel. Most corporate sector only change server once every 7 years. Maybe longer but no less than tht. Enthusiast market maybe amd can claw back some market share if performance is great and sell at an irresistable price. This group of ppl are not many though. No volume. Corporate desktops make up for majority of the cpu sales. Sadly though, AMD Ryzen is out of place here. No integrated GPU no talk. This is Intel territory althogh OEM like Dell and HP do sell AMD desktops though no takers from the corporate world. Every industry player only buy Intel. AMD needs invest heavily on marketting here in order to gain market share |
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Feb 18 2017, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Feb 18 2017, 09:19 PM) Ryzen dont hv integrated GPU.Ryzen is meant to be enthusiast platform. Majority of us has dicrete GPU. Low end should include iGPU, therefore its the job of the APU to compete with the pentium and celeron. That's why I want to see how much Ryzen can compare with it's 3/5 series against the Pentium G series (Celeron is meh already). |
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Feb 20 2017, 08:30 AM
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They need something to compete with atoms too, IMO. There is quite a variety of form factors that use atoms. I would love to see a competitor for the intel compute stick from Amd. Also, Netbook may be dead, but it's successor lives on and people do buy them (though in less volume, admittedly). If AMD can get it to work on android, then alk the better, opportunity wise as it opens up a new market.
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Feb 20 2017, 09:21 AM
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AMD is not yet competing in the Pentium/Celeron class probably because it's an entry level segment which is a small market and low profit. They better target enthusiasts who build their own systems, or performance PC system builders.
Nobody really buy ready made PC with low spec these days, which confirmed by huge decrease in PC shipment since the past year or so. Pre-built PC market is taken over by laptops as well as mobile devices. Besides AMD still has old APUs and FX CPU in their inventory that still needs to move out first. Expect more price cuts when Ryzen starts shipping out. |
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Feb 20 2017, 11:30 AM
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I think Intel doesn't really care even if they end up losing the market in normal consumer like us, since they already move on to mainly focus on the cloud computing.
Intel can price that much cuz they just don't give a shit at all.. Anyhow, looking forward for upcoming Ryzen. Seems very promising. On the other, Vega may still need some time to actually compete with Nvidia GTX1080 or Titan if it comes to high-end spec. As far as I heard, GTX1080 is too good to be handled by current high-end CPUs IMO though This post has been edited by michaelchiew24: Feb 20 2017, 11:42 AM |
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Feb 20 2017, 11:59 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Kw4XFXB30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka5qkj_xycY More information for Ryzen. Seems verrrrrrry promising |
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Feb 20 2017, 12:04 PM
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hopefully new ryzen performance similar performance to i7 counterparts, but sell at i3 price, this is a big win to consumers.
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Feb 20 2017, 05:08 PM
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holy, that day draws near and im so excited! maybe its not time to switch to intel.
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Feb 20 2017, 05:11 PM
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just wait for release and benchmarks, AMD has disappoint the hype several times in the past
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Feb 20 2017, 05:17 PM
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