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post Feb 23 2017, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Feb 23 2017, 05:03 PM)
If those suggested prices are msrp with gst on it. Good deal Liao.

China site pre-order for 1700x after conversion is around 2k per pop
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Price shown is including GST, check out http://www.jayacom.com.my/amd-am4-ryzen-18...essor-pre-order


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QUOTE(Unleashed @ Feb 23 2017, 05:55 PM)
Waited a month for ryzen, and have been targetting the 1600X. And now they will only release the R7 processor. 😓

And for that price I might as well go for i7 7700k. Damn. I cant wait another month for the R5. Well, might just settle for intel after all.
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Err well, since you also wait for long time d, what that for another month ? 7700k (4c/8t) also not cheap wad. many benchmark show that 1700 (8c16t) @ RM1599 is better than that..haha .. let's wait for some local review for R7, by the time R5 will arrived hopefully biggrin.gif

Some info that i found.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/02/amd-shows...half-the-price/


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post Feb 23 2017, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(terrorist @ Feb 23 2017, 07:36 PM)
Price shown is including GST, check out http://www.jayacom.com.my/amd-am4-ryzen-18...essor-pre-order
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WAHHH NICE!

so far no Mobo yet.. hmmm

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Wow US side got MSI mobo AM4 pricing d. Newegg and Scan selling d.

$109, think when come Malaysia, will cost RM5xx?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813144018

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-b350-to...-31-gen1-aplusc
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Feb 23 2017, 08:10 PM)
WAHHH NICE!

so far no Mobo yet.. hmmm
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should be out soon la in Msia. since US also selling.. how to have CPU w/o mobo hahahaha sweat.gif

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QUOTE(terrorist @ Feb 23 2017, 08:16 PM)
should be out soon la in Msia. since US also selling.. how to have CPU w/o mobo hahahaha  sweat.gif
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700X + Gigabyte AX370 GAMING 5 combo.

4898yuan... hmmm

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220m...c6f5810d262c1b4

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Feb 23 2017, 08:20 PM)
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X + Gigabyte AX370 GAMING 5  combo.

4898yuan... hmmm

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220m...c6f5810d262c1b4

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Damn la M'sia loose to taobao thesedays doh.gif

Feel like selling my intel system for AMD now.


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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Feb 23 2017, 08:42 PM)
Damn la M'sia loose to taobao thesedays  doh.gif

Feel like selling my intel system for AMD now.
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poison success!!!... if u search deeper in taobao.. got full system at fraction of price.
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Feb 23 2017, 08:44 PM)
poison success!!!... if u search deeper in taobao.. got full system at fraction of price.
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need taobao deep search engine heh
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Feb 23 2017, 08:44 PM)
poison success!!!... if u search deeper in taobao.. got full system at fraction of price.
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Yeah but the shipping time is a test for those. And it's true China have better value and cheaper rate into selling PC's. In Malaysia, you can still build cheap rigs as many Facebook pages are promoting it.

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AMD Ryzen Hype / promotional/ marketing aside.

Issues still plague AMD with these new cpus.

So, they are targeting the Enthusiast / high-end segment/market with Ryzen 7.
But there's no REAL high-end / cool motherboards to match with these new "high-end cpus" unlike intel e.g Asus Rampage V edition 10 / Maximus 9 Formula / Aorus Gaming 9.

if i am the "Enthusiast", i will think twice on the 1800x/1700x as the mobo is also part of the package/decision. "Flagship" Asus board : Crosshair VI Hero. (that's only a mid- range mobo)

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Also, the first AMD Ryzen rig powered up last night. biggrin.gif

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...25814997445010/

Ryzen 7 1800X is awesome!
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 24 2017, 02:37 AM)
Also, the first AMD Ryzen rig powered up last night. biggrin.gif

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...25814997445010/

Ryzen 7 1800X is awesome!
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i agree high end AMD Ryzen 7 1800x only cost about 2599 RM compare to Intel Core I7 6700k which about 4k
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QUOTE(targon @ Feb 24 2017, 12:25 AM)
AMD Ryzen Hype / promotional/ marketing aside.

Issues still plague AMD with these new cpus.

So, they are targeting the Enthusiast / high-end segment/market with Ryzen 7.
But there's no REAL high-end / cool motherboards to match with these new "high-end cpus" unlike intel e.g Asus Rampage V edition 10 / Maximus 9 Formula / Aorus Gaming 9.

if i am the "Enthusiast", i will think twice on the 1800x/1700x as the mobo is also part of the package/decision. "Flagship" Asus board : Crosshair VI Hero. (that's only a mid- range mobo)
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what about the MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM AMD Ryzen AM4 ATX Motherboard and the ASRock X370 Professional Gaming, AMD X370, S AM4, DDR4, SATA3, M.2, 2-Way SLi/CrossFire, 5GbE/WiFi, USB 3.1, ATX?

QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 24 2017, 02:37 AM)
Also, the first AMD Ryzen rig powered up last night. biggrin.gif

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...25814997445010/

Ryzen 7 1800X is awesome!
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seems like this 1800X is quite a hot proc idling at 70C
What temp does intel proc with the same performance idle at?

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Feb 24 2017, 04:35 AM)
seems like this 1800X is quite a hot proc idling at 70C
What temp does intel proc with the same performance idle at?
I found out that the board reads the CPU temp different from software.

They're very far apart. So yeah, now I'm checking with AMD on what's the temperature thing like.

Until then, I can't say which one is correct. It could be the MSI BIOS reading wrongly.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 24 2017, 05:08 AM)
I found out that the board reads the CPU temp different from software.

They're very far apart. So yeah, now I'm checking with AMD on what's the temperature thing like.

Until then, I can't say which one is correct. It could be the MSI BIOS reading wrongly.
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you are lucky you gotten the most expensive board smile.gif

guess next firmware or windows software update
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QUOTE(targon @ Feb 24 2017, 12:25 AM)
So, they are targeting the Enthusiast / high-end segment/market with Ryzen 7.
But there's no REAL high-end / cool motherboards to match with these new "high-end cpus" unlike intel e.g Asus Rampage V edition 10 / Maximus 9 Formula / Aorus Gaming 9.

if i am the "Enthusiast", i will think twice on the 1800x/1700x as the mobo is also part of the package/decision. "Flagship" Asus board : Crosshair VI Hero. (that's only a mid- range mobo)
The flaw or your thought is you're trying to apply the "Intel" side of the camp logic to AMD. You can't expect them to emulate Intel exactly, that would defeat the entire purpose of AMD's purpose.

The ZEN range CPU are fresh start build from scratch, providing awesome price to performance ratio and those board are already the flagship models.

I'll cite you from my personal setup.

I have an Intel Core i7-5960X with ASRock X99 OC Formula and that i7-5960X had to be OCed from 3Ghz to 4.3Ghz just to have a slight edge over the 1800X based on the numbers you see on slides / videos.

At this point of time, that i7 is priced $1,134.99 on Newegg. Around RM 5k if Malaysia price.
Compare that to the $499 Ryzen 7 1800X which is around RM 2.6k Malaysia price, HALF.

You can go with the cheaper boards (half the price of the top models) and still get same performance, minus the XFR boost.

And you also have to think - what's those high-end board on the Intel side for? Mainly for Overclocking.

Ryzen is not about Overclocking, it's about performance out of the box. smile.gif It can be overclocked but it's not a great overclocker.

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