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Kanuki
post Mar 10 2017, 06:39 PM

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My R7 1700X and Crosshair VI Hero are coming next week.... hehe...
So... exciting.


Kanuki
post Mar 11 2017, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 11 2017, 10:10 AM)
Hero board is local supplier? How much SRP?
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Nope... get it from other country.

I noticed that the price is very close to MSI xPower Titanium.
It might gonna be around RM17xx when it's launched in Malaysia.

Kanuki
post Mar 13 2017, 05:43 PM

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ASUS Crosshair VI Hero Malaysia price has been announced.

https://www.facebook.com/DOTATECH/photos/pc...?type=3&theater

Kanuki
post Mar 20 2017, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 20 2017, 09:35 PM)
Donno, lemme go try with other boards first.

My MSI board sucks on that aspect, RM 1.8k beauty but can't adjust multiplier x BCLK.

Damn n00b for OCing IMO.
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Thailand there selling around RM1.4k (using 7.8 conversion rate) for this model.

Btw... I need to ask you something.

I'm using 1700X with Crosshair VI Hero and Corsair Vengeance LED 8GBx2 3000MHz CL15.

I can't push my RAM push over 2666MHz at all.

Can you give me a bit of advise?

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Kanuki
post Mar 20 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 20 2017, 11:25 PM)
Did you manually set the timings and voltage?
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I did but still won't boot. The recommended timing is 15-17-17-36 @ 1.35v.

I even raised voltage up to 1.4v and still no luck.

P.S. I'm stuck at 2666 MHz with timing 14-14-14-14-30 @ 1.35v.

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Kanuki
post Mar 21 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 20 2017, 11:50 PM)
Your RAM not part of this list huh?

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/landing/ryzen
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Yup.. T_T

Let hope this will help... finger crossed. XD
https://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/03/20/new...e_in_wild_uefi/

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Kanuki
post Mar 22 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 22 2017, 02:39 AM)
can you try rising the bclk to 110mhz see if it can run 2933mhz.
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I will try to OC my CPU to 4.2GHz to night
and will try to raise my DDR speed at the same time.

I did try to raise my BCLK to 102MHz yesterday
and already had hard time to boot.

Kanuki
post Apr 4 2017, 11:32 AM

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There are a few people starting to put the concern about the bad memory controller
on 1700X which made in China because it can't operate RAM at 3200MHz while 1700 which
made in Malaysia can operate RAM at 3200MHz easily.



P.S. My 1700X can't be overclocked to 4.0GHz at all. 3.9GHz@1.45v only 85% stable.
And default settings will just crash without any warning at all.


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Kanuki
post Apr 5 2017, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 5 2017, 01:50 AM)
Wow that's bad, 1.45vcore very high.

What cooling are you using?
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Cryorig A80 with two 140mm fans (push) and one 200mm fan (pull).

Kanuki
post Apr 5 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 5 2017, 09:28 AM)
OK that one will handle the heat better, I didn't know they have AM4 mount models in already.

1.45v is very high. My 1800X at 3.99Ghz (around 4Ghz la) is 1.385vcore stable (UEFI setting) and passes OCCT 1 hour stress test.
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They still do no have the mounting kit for AM4. It seem like have to wait
until mid of April 2017 for them to be able to ship it out.

Luckily ASUS Crosshair VI Hero come with AM3 and AM4 mounting holes.
It's really genius idea from ASUS. It's one of the strong selling point for
ASUS at the moment.

Kanuki
post Apr 7 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 6 2017, 08:13 PM)
The XPower Titanium moniker has its history as MSI finest board. The unique color also jacks up the price.

The Carbon has always been budget gaming series.
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The color has nothing to do with the price. Price jacked up is only in Malaysia.

It's being sold in Thailand almost the same price with other brand top end model.



QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 6 2017, 08:44 PM)
Just wanna confirm, do local R1800X and R1700X come with the Wraith Max cooler?
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Nope...

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Kanuki
post Apr 7 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 7 2017, 11:07 AM)
Prices from newegg:

MSI Z270 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM LGA 1151 Intel Z270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel
$329.99

MSI MSI Gaming Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard
$254.99 (was $299.99)

MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX Motherboards - AMD
$299.99
Again, the XPower Titanium is a premium board, the finest from MSI.
Malaysia price is always crazy as usual. Some go x5 USD, some X5.5 USD, some x6 USD, some even more. My Z170 ASRock mobo was x4 USD (which is a steal  laugh.gif ) last year.
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ASUS Crosshair VI Hero = 10,200 Bath / 7.8 = RM1308.00

MSI X370 xPower Gaming Titanium = 11,200 Bath / 7.8 = RM1436.00
Kanuki
post Apr 7 2017, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 7 2017, 11:41 AM)
as usual, local distributors and their profit bye.gif
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ASUS price different is only around RM90 but you will get extra one year warranty
if you register the product online (not sure about this campaign still valid now or not).
It's kinda fair.

ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming
Malaysia price = RM1279.00
Thailand Price = 8,990.00 Bath / 7.8 = RM1153.00

Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5
Malaysia price = RM964.60
Thailand Price = 6,590 Bath / 7.8 = RM845.00
Kanuki
post Apr 7 2017, 11:52 AM

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post Apr 7 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 02:06 PM)
how is that rig ? I read all comments and i think no need to pay extra money to Mobo in that case ? biggrin.gif thx a lot everyone ! (still codulnt find any am4 cooler)

  MSI MOTHERBOARD AMD AM4 X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM
  AMD Processor AM4 RYZEN 7 Series 1800X 4.0GHz WITHOUT CPU COOLER
  G.SKILL RAM Desktop DDR4 TRIDENTZ 2X 8GB PC3200 F4-3200C16D-8GTZB  (X2)
  GIGABYTE VGA GF GTX 1070 WF2 OC 8GB DDR5 (GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD)
  CORSAIR Power Supply CX Series CX750M 750W (CP-9020061-UK)
  WESTERN DIGITAL HDD INT Desktop BLACK 3TB SATA3 64MB WD3003FZEX
  WESTERN DIGITAL SSD M.2-2280 SATA3 BLUE 500GB (WDS500G1B0B)
  CM Storm Stryker - White Full Tower Gaming Computer Case
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Maybe you will need to use the cable tie for the cooler first
or maybe you can go for ASUS Crosshair VI Hero that has
AM3 mounting holes.

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post Apr 7 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 02:13 PM)
you mean later on i can grab any Am4 cooler right when it is avaliable ? actually i was thinking water cooler but maybe i can wait a bit more time.
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I don't quite understand what you mean exactly.

What I meant is acutally you can just buy most of the water cooler right now because of
most of the high end water cooler brand already promised to give the retention kit for free once
they're ready. You may need to use to use the cable tie to tie the water block to the motherboard first.

Please consult with the seller first before you buy it.



QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Apr 7 2017, 02:28 PM)
If i were to cut cost on AM4 Board,
they told me the only major different between X370 and B350 is that X370 got more PCI-E Slots.

How about overclocking parts? Will i lost a lot on B350?
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I was thinking exactly the same because most of the x370 board has the unnecessary features
that I don't need but I still ended up bought the high end x370 board just because it look nicest
and has AM3 mounting holes. hahaha... tongue.gif biggrin.gif

About the overclocking part is mostly on your luck.... It's what we called 'Silicon Lottery'.
If you get the good chip then you can even overclock to 4.1-4.2GHz easily and low vcore voltage too
but if you get the bad chip then you can't even get it to 3.9GHz even with high vcore voltage.

P.S. Seem like 1700 giving the best odd at the moment.

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post Apr 10 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(grimreaper05 @ Apr 9 2017, 04:51 PM)
does anyone have this (or know where to get this)?
http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit
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Just need to fill this form and wait.

http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit-order-form

Kanuki
post Apr 19 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 19 2017, 11:12 AM)
I'm actually surprised to see that there's performance gap when on GTX 1060 and RX 480,

Going through the details, they're running at 720p with lowest quality details - wth, when you do that, the CPU performance gap will be apparent.

I respect them for their test methodology but I don't think they should do that, in fact it actually makes it look worse as many people (unfortunately) just assumes that the Ryzen setup is bad immediately.

I feel that they should just run Full HD and max out the details, at least that's what I'm doing.

Oh well, looks like I'm going to do some tests similar to that but with GTX 1060 6GB and RX 580.
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Hi.. goldfires

Do you have any idea whether Dual Rank RAM will get update to support above 2667MHz or not?

Kanuki
post May 23 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 22 2017, 07:57 PM)
i found the issue.
it was game boost at bios.
it boosted from stock 3.0ghz to 3.4ghz but increased vcore to 1.44v as well.
when turned it off, clock speed goes back to 3.0ghz but vcore remains high.
re-flashing bios is the best option.

anyways.
stock volt running between 0.9-1.1v normally
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I'm not sure about you but my 1700X system was completely unstable
with the default settings. It was randomly crashed.

I had to overclock my 1700X to 3.8GHz with vcore 1.3625v, LLC level 2,
and SOC at 1.2v to make it completely stable.

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post May 23 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ May 23 2017, 02:47 PM)
What are ur setup? Mobo & ram?
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according to my signature.


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