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post Mar 2 2017, 07:20 PM

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Yes the cores can be disabled.
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post Mar 2 2017, 07:26 PM

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There is Ryzen review. Retail ver not Press review sample.
(please note this site is a chinese site)

https://www.chiphell.com/article-17555-1.html

Here is the benmark result link if U want the results Ryzen 7 1800X vs 7700k & 6900k
https://www.chiphell.com/article-17555-5.html

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post Mar 2 2017, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Yottabyte @ Mar 2 2017, 07:15 PM)
Some leaked shows cores can be disabled in some mobo bios. I would love to 4 active cores in 2+2 CCX combination benchmark affecting games. That would theoretically gives more headroom for overclock before reaching TDP. Plus, 16MB L3 cache in this settings might rival 7700k in single threaded test.
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Good to hear that It can be disabled. But again, even if the 4c ryzen perform 90% of kaby lake at half the price, who wouldn't want? Because not all can afford that R7 tongue.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 10:01 PM

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After seeing all the benchmarks around the web, i can only conclude that Ryzen platform is poorly optimized. It's sad to see this as a result of Intel dominating the market for so many years and most software are optimized for Intel architecture. Nevertheless, this is a huge leap from AMD and this will definitely benefit all consumers.
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QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 2 2017, 11:38 PM)
After seeing all the benchmarks around the web, i can only conclude that Ryzen platform is poorly optimized.  It's sad to see this as a result of Intel dominating the market for so many years and most software are optimized for Intel architecture.  Nevertheless, this is a huge leap from AMD and this will definitely benefit all consumers.
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Heavy workload favors Ryzen due to the price. Gaming still favors Intel. It may change due to PS4 and Xbox ports.

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post Mar 3 2017, 12:33 AM

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I think it is strong enough for it's price.
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QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 2 2017, 11:38 PM)
After seeing all the benchmarks around the web, i can only conclude that Ryzen platform is poorly optimized.  It's sad to see this as a result of Intel dominating the market for so many years and most software are optimized for Intel architecture.  Nevertheless, this is a huge leap from AMD and this will definitely benefit all consumers.
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Well, I see Zen as a whole as disruptive architecture. It's not the best gaming CPU I admit, and that's okay. Because desktop enthusiast markets are rather small. Today, mobile and server segment where the real money is. After reading this very detailed post, looks like AMD power efficiency could seriously hurt Intel. No wonder AMD could design 32C/64T server CPU within 180W TDP.

I wouldn't be surprised if next Surface Book/Pro or Macbook would be powered by AMD apu.
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post Mar 3 2017, 07:51 AM

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Edit: never mind, found the prices as per article from goldfries;

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The current retail price for the processors are as follows
– RYZEN 7 1800X – RM 2,599 (Cooler not included)
– RYZEN 7 1700X – RM 1,899 (Cooler not included)
– RYZEN 7 1700 – RM 1,599 (Comes with Wraith Spire cooler)



Anyone has news of the retail price for these Ryzen CPUs in Malaysian market? Is it close if I estimate them to be price in USD x 5?



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All AMD Ryzen reviews

Techspot:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1345-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x/

Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ry...x-cpu,4951.html

Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-am...-1700x-and-1700

Guru3D:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-r...r-review,1.html
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Ryzen is good, but not crushing Intel like what it's hyped up to be. In fact, the best Ryzen 7 turns out to be the Ryzen 7 1700 at 65W TDP. It can be overclocked to the same clock speed as Ryzen 7 1800X and still runs cooler than 1800X. And when overclocked, it runs on par with Intel I7 7700K on all fronts and with process that utilize multi cores, the overclocked Ryzen 1700 will outperform the I7 7700K.

Between I7 6900K vs Ryzen 1800X, get the Ryzen 1800X just because the price difference is huge. But a better option is just get the Ryzen 1700 and OC it to 3.9 GHz clock speed if you really need it to be that fast.

Between I7 7700K vs Ryzen 1700, this is tough call. Price wise they are similar, performance almost similar. Should be ok if you pick either camp. AM4 can't fully utilize high speed ram now, so if you insist on running DDR4 at 3600 or higher, then maybe go with Intel (though i dont think ram frequency will have any noticeable effect in real world utilization scenario). For me, given that these two are about the same price, I am leaning towards the Intel side. More familiarity with Intel than AMD. But if AMD were to cut the 1700 price to USD 250, then Ryzen 7 1700 is the way to go.
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years ago, many would be satisfied if ryzen can reach close to haswell, but they exceeded that. Much improved power consumption. Reading the reviews and youtubes, there seems to be problem with AMD's SMT that causes performance penalties. Synthetics show ryzen do have a lot of raw power, probably poor optimization as mentioned in this thread.

Seeing the rage in reddit, it seems that people overhype themselves, thinking of a fantasy miracle from lackluster bulldozer family to outright crushing/buttkicking ryzen.

can't wait for ryzen cpu and apu in laptops in 2h 2017, planning to replace my c2d laptop.

Hope this time, laptop manufacturers put in a good ryzen chip with above-average to good specifications. As current amd laptops, either have weak cpu versions, single channel ram or low res screen.
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QUOTE(Eterman @ Mar 3 2017, 10:28 AM)
years ago, many would be satisfied if ryzen can reach close to haswell, but they exceeded that. Much improved power consumption. Reading the reviews and youtubes, there seems to be problem with AMD's SMT that causes performance penalties. Synthetics show ryzen do have a lot of raw power, probably poor optimization as mentioned in this thread.

Seeing the rage in reddit, it seems that people overhype themselves, thinking of a fantasy miracle from lackluster bulldozer family to outright crushing/buttkicking ryzen.

can't wait for ryzen cpu and apu in laptops in 2h 2017, planning to replace my c2d laptop.

Hope this time, laptop manufacturers put in a good ryzen chip with above-average to good specifications. As current amd laptops, either have weak cpu versions, single channel ram or low res screen.
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Years? try a month ago. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Yottabyte @ Mar 3 2017, 07:28 AM)
Well, I see Zen as a whole as disruptive architecture. It's not the best gaming CPU I admit, and that's okay. Because desktop enthusiast markets are rather small. Today, mobile and server segment where the real money is. After reading this very detailed post, looks like AMD power efficiency could seriously hurt Intel. No wonder AMD could design 32C/64T server CPU within 180W TDP.

I wouldn't be surprised if next Surface Book/Pro or Macbook would be powered by AMD apu.
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As always, it's about the hype.

After so many years, there's nothing much on Ryzen. Might as well reduce their pricing more to compete.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 3 2017, 11:10 AM)
Years? try a month ago. laugh.gif
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tongue.gif oh really? my memory fails me then. bangwall.gif

yeah, then noticed the trend prior to launch, suddenly the hype train expectation is " it crushes/kicks kabylake" .... the human mind is really wonderful when not in checked icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Eterman @ Mar 3 2017, 11:39 AM)
tongue.gif  oh really? my memory fails me then.  bangwall.gif

yeah, then noticed the trend prior to launch, suddenly the hype train expectation is " it crushes/kicks kabylake" .... the human mind is really wonderful when not in checked  icon_idea.gif
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Already roughly know where is the performance long before review. +52% IPC out of Bulldozer is still not faster than today's Intel. Intel gains around +10% every year.
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Ryzen 1700@3.9Ghz VS i7-7700K@5Ghz Gaming Benchmark


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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Mar 3 2017, 11:22 AM)
As always, it's about the hype.

After so many years, there's nothing much on Ryzen. Might as well reduce their pricing more to compete.
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I wouldn't call Zen with terrific IPC/TDP as 'nothing much'. as I said before, today mobile and server market matters waaay more than desktop especially enthusiast.

This post has been edited by Yottabyte: Mar 3 2017, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Mar 3 2017, 11:22 AM)
As always, it's about the hype.

After so many years, there's nothing much on Ryzen. Might as well reduce their pricing more to compete.
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Much better to not board the hype train as always, and rather than asking AMD reducing the price, best to reduce expectation.

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