years ago, many would be satisfied if ryzen can reach close to haswell, but they exceeded that. Much improved power consumption. Reading the reviews and youtubes, there seems to be problem with AMD's SMT that causes performance penalties. Synthetics show ryzen do have a lot of raw power, probably poor optimization as mentioned in this thread.

Seeing the rage in reddit, it seems that people overhype themselves, thinking of a fantasy miracle from lackluster bulldozer family to outright crushing/buttkicking ryzen.

can't wait for ryzen cpu and apu in laptops in 2h 2017, planning to replace my c2d laptop.

Hope this time, laptop manufacturers put in a good ryzen chip with above-average to good specifications. As current amd laptops, either have weak cpu versions, single channel ram or low res screen.

oh really? my memory fails me then.

yeah, then noticed the trend prior to launch, suddenly the hype train expectation is " it crushes/kicks kabylake" .... the human mind is really wonderful when not in checked

a reddit discussion here --- > https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x7oaq/ryzens_memory_latency_problem_a_discussion_of/

nice discussion on the L3 and victim cache latencies that might cause gaming penalties, but i still can't understand some of it.

those numbers look very good.

I vaguely remember an old review video about fx 8350, the reviewer use kill o watt, and get about 380++W full system draw.