USD x5.5 to x6 is the norm

Really miss the good old x3.2~ rate
Now need more money

This post has been edited by Patent: Feb 24 2017, 06:49 PM

Why no gaming benchmarks against the 7700k or 7600k ? OCed vs OCed performance on air. That is the real deal.
For us gamers, all we care is how many fps can get with the same GPU. Cinebench means nothing to us.

That's why I didn't even bother about it. The usual hype. Trust only reviews with real world benchmarks.

If not mistaken, one of a website have posted Ryzen losing in game benchmark. It could be true.

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-gamin...enchmarks-leak/

This post has been edited by sniperz: Feb 24 2017, 10:47 PM

Need more. Some games and apps favors Intel.

there is very little information on single core performance for ryzen..why are they hiding?

Will be building a rendering rig soon, comparing this to the entry i7 I think this could be a better go.

However still waiting for reviews to come in

Would it be advisable to get it?

Sniper Elite for benchmark?
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-i7-6...ng-performance/

In other words, Intel is smoked by AMD now.

Hitler Ryzen 7 lol

https://www.dvhardware.net/article66073.html

New BIOS is on the way, not so soon though.
Anyway, RAM speed is not the important part to gain FPS.

Haiyoh you think whole world is about gamers meh?

I spent whole day with AMD and games is just one tiny portion of presentation.

Games benchmarks I have also, but details cannot share to you guys just yet.

What I can tell you is that even when AMD presented the details on games, they didn't say AMD beat Intel or what. They just say both perform equally well.

Refer to my video below, jump to around 14:30 mark.



They talk about games but not much, you must understand that AMD's ZEN series products here is built for the future.

For current games, I don't think you'll see any difference and from my experience assuming the IPC is now on par with Intel products, then the Ryzen will be a little behind the Core series for gaming. Not much, just slightly behind.

However as overall performaner (games and productivity) the Ryzen has the edge, what it is now is that the Ryzen opens more avenue for developers to make content that is able to utilize even more cores for better experience.

In a nutshell : Ryzen - Future.

Then wats the point of using a future cpu. Those bulldozer days are built like tht exactly. Invest heavily in multithread performance hoping the market will join the bandwagon, sacrifice single thread. It ended up being a shitty gaming cpu where a puny i3 can defeat an 8 core cpu from amd. Buying computers for 'future proof' is such bad idea to me. You should buy watever is best at that time. Ryzen is marketted as an enthusiast cpu according to the ceo

This post has been edited by k!nex: Feb 25 2017, 02:42 PM

never occur to you there are things out there are people who benefits from the multi threaded option eh?

Ryzen is obviously not marketed as "gaming CPU", its to show that the masses can now graduate from the standard 4C8T option and opt for similar to Intel's more cores HEDT perf without breaking the bank

it doesnt really matter if Ryzen loses in single threaded, what concerns everyone the most is the fact now everyone can opt for CPU with more multi threading by now

My goodness, you need to broaden your perspective on technology.

Here are some points you need to understand ..............

1. It is a CPU that's made to be able to handle stuff that's available today, and further down the road. That's what 'FUTURE' means. It enables developers to go further. What for make something to match Intel, right? Make something better.

2. Gamers are just 1 of the many target market. There's the VR industry, there's the data center industry, there's the work / rendering / computation industry. If you still don't get it, let me illustrate to you.

My Core i7-5960X Extreme Edition CPU with X99 board comes to around RM 5000 - 6000 range. My Ryzen 7 1800X with X370 board comes to only around RM 4000 but performance wise the R7 1800X out of the box out performs the 5960X by so much, the 5960X had to be OCed from 3Ghz to 4.3Ghz just to barely beat that 1800X ............ .STOCK.

Here's my video again, listen to the first 5 minutes. The key word is "high performance computing".



3. What many people don't know is how Ryzen is a totally brand new design, even to the extent that future CPU can continue using the same socket.

Please do not assume 'enthusiasts' = gamer. Enthusiasts can be in many forms.

4. i3 can beat 8 core CPU from AMD ......... .yes but what extent? Gaming yes it can but work, not so.

For me I found it disheartening to see something like this :





Both 7700k and R7 1700 is about the same price. Roughly RM1.5~RM1.6k here I believe.

By the way, since Goldfries has sampled the R7 1800x, perhaps, can we know what is the Aida64 memory benchmark like ??

I will post my lowly work rig. I know you're bind by NDA until 28th Feb, however, you just have to say, can your 1800x do better than this and what kind of RAM are you using:


My CPU only worth RM1k. Our friend is selling here

Honestly what do you expect with the gaming benchmark?
I think even the biggest amd fan kind of expected the result.
The benchmark was kinda unfair comparing intel cpu overclocked to amd on stock speed.
The amd cpu is supposed to run as low as 3.0 ghz that is 1ghz (or more) compared to intel's clock speed, of course the game such as GTA V which is cpu intensive will be more in favour of intel since i believe you have know that game cant utilize all that cores.
However i was quite surprised that the average fps of both the amd and intel on clock speed was almost the same.
I believe even AMD does not create the r7 1700 to beat the 7700k on gaming. That is why during the amd presentation, they only compared both of the cpu in term of gaming while streaming.

Wow this thread quite heated..

From Lisa Su's presentation, i think the Ryzen 7 family is a sort of plugging the gap between the 1150 and 2011-3 market. But the Ryzen 7 is very capable when in instances its beating the crap out of the i7 6900K at half, HALF the price.

AMD has disrupted the market now with their top end chips are way, way better price/performance compared to Intel. Taking into account of the 2011-3 expensive platform cost into account(yes it has a lot of features but are they really worth that much?) the AM4 platform looks good to go for future Zen iterations.