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Investment ARA TRE' RESIDENCES @ ARA DAMANSARA [OT], Affordable Luxury Ara Damansara

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post Jul 10 2019, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(yjtan15 @ Jul 10 2019, 12:29 PM)
Additional info for PERLA Ara Sentral:

Close to 2000 units for whole development

Level 7 to 13 is Affordable Housing

Close to INDAH WATER sewerage and PPR.

By the the abandoned structure is seemingly owned by Prasarana, which is the land owner of PERLA.  Please correct if I am wrong.
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Level 7 to 13 is affordable housing? I wonder will there be a separate JMB set up for this segment because I suppose the facilities and maintenance needs are different too?
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post Jul 10 2019, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(ckweng @ Jul 10 2019, 12:43 PM)
Level 7 to 13 is affordable housing? I wonder will there be a separate JMB set up for this segment because I suppose the facilities and maintenance needs are different too?
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Based on info gathered so far for Perla Ara Sentral, need to wait until Q4 then only can know for sure.

Because now there are different statements from the sales agency. one agent said affordable housing,another said for developer's staffs. But there are almost 1/3 of total units reserved just for developer's staffs??? I wonder

If you google Selangor TOD guideline, affordable housing is one of the requirements by authority.


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post Jul 10 2019, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(yjtan15 @ Jul 10 2019, 12:51 PM)
Based on info gathered so far for Perla Ara Sentral, need to wait until Q4 then only can know for sure.

Because now there are different statements from the sales agency. one agent said affordable housing,another said for developer's staffs. But there are almost 1/3 of total units reserved just for developer's staffs??? I wonder

If you google Selangor TOD guideline, affordable housing is one of the requirements by authority.
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1/3 is about right for the land cost if prarasana give out land for this development

If developer needs to build affordable housing, why they didnt design an enture block or two for this purpose instead of sharing the block?
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post Jul 11 2019, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 10 2019, 08:35 PM)
1/3 is about right for the land cost if prarasana give out land for this development

If developer needs to build affordable housing, why they didnt design an enture block or two for this purpose instead of sharing the block?
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alot selangor affordable housing nowadays combine with the bebas blocks like b11 parkland, traders garden and etc... but usually they will offer only studio size affordable housing if its going to combine together with the bebas....
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post Jul 11 2019, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(ckweng @ Jul 9 2019, 02:29 PM)
So that's why Ara Tre owners should also write in to voice their objection on the plan like the owners of Urbana and PSK. Since Ara Tre's developer is Puncak Dana and related to the state government, you guys may have a better chance the voice objection, even though the mosque has been approved by MBPJ. 

I am surprised that there's not much discussion on this here. Are buyers/owners completely oblivious with what will be built opposite of their condo?
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No idea how others buy but I certainly raised it with the agent I dealt with la which is Reapfield properties. She only gave two justification :

1. It is not a confirm project as they are raising funds. But for me...I can't buy with them raising fund. Cause if the succeed, I can't get my refund. Not good enough a justification.

2. The windows will be double window so sound won't be very loud. Which I don't know because the unit is not up yet and there is no way to verify this. If it is disturbing enough, who is to be responsible or who can refund? I believe the answer is no one.

Anyone here who already purchased Ara Tre who wanna do a joint petition with MBPJ?

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post Jul 11 2019, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(chicargo @ Jul 9 2019, 04:23 PM)
saw an excavator digging on the land for the mosque
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Yeap. Land clearing now. With that activity going on, it's difficult to make a decision to buy or not. I myself am puzzled if the already purchased owner knows about it and if they do, does it matter to them? And also, the about to buy happy potential, are they aware there is such thing? Because I am somewhat very certain that most if not all, agents that is selling will never sell it by saying....oh ya... There will be a mosque right across the road. So once you sign and you find out and if you ask the agent, what do you think they will tell you? My experience tell me this will be their answer, " oh.. yea correct there will be one la but no problem la " . Small matter. Highly advise any potential buyer to at least first know about this building before putting any form of deposit. If you know and you still decide to buy, that's a different story. But from my personal experience, many ppl I speak to...in fact....everyone I spoke to say no thanks to considering it, which means if it's for investment, it's not going to be one that you can sell easily. If it's for own stay...that....will be your personal discretion if you are fine with it. Some times it not just about the noise. The traffic ( assuming ppl will go masjid ), will also be an issue. If not everyday....just imagine Friday. Not like the area is a quiet light traffic area.

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post Jul 11 2019, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(wgpictures @ Jul 11 2019, 07:02 PM)
Yeap. Land clearing now. With that activity going on, it's difficult to make a decision to buy or not. I myself am puzzled if the already purchased owner knows about it and if they do, does it matter to them? And also, the about to buy happy potential, are they aware there is such thing? Because I am somewhat very certain that most if not all, agents that is selling will never sell it by saying....oh ya... There will be a mosque right across the road. So once you sign and you find out and if you ask the agent, what do you think they will tell you? My experience tell me this will be their answer, " oh.. yea correct there will be one la but no problem la " . Small matter. Highly advise any potential buyer to at least first know about this building before putting any form of deposit. If you know and you still decide to buy, that's a different story. But from my personal experience, many ppl I speak to...in fact....everyone I spoke to say no thanks to considering it, which means if it's for investment, it's not going to be one that you can sell easily. If it's for own stay...that....will be your personal discretion if you are fine with it. Some times it not just about the noise. The traffic ( assuming ppl will go masjid ), will also be an issue. If not everyday....just imagine Friday. Not like the area is a quiet light traffic area.
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I have no idea why there is a need of another mosque when the ara damansara mosque is just 1-2km away. Either way, the demographics of ara damansara is 60% chinese and even with the ara damansara mosque situated in the center, condos still shows good appreciation such as maisson which had 20% appreciation in 2017 alone. Apart from the friday traffic, we can always talk to the imam in the mosque if the azan is too loud in the early morning.

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post Jul 12 2019, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Fu_zHen @ Jul 11 2019, 11:00 PM)
I have no idea why there is a need of another mosque when the ara damansara mosque is just 1-2km away. Either way, the demographics of ara damansara is 60% chinese and even with the ara damansara mosque situated in the center, condos still shows good appreciation such as maisson which had 20% appreciation in 2017 alone. Apart from the friday traffic, we can always talk to the imam in the mosque if the azan is too loud in the early morning.
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Maisson is much further away from Masjid Ara Damansara as compared to the new mosque is to Ara Tre though. Besides that, requesting to lower the volume of the azan is a highly sensitive issue and could be interpreted as seditious to certain quarters.
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or if you look on the bright side, with few mosques within close proximity, people may choose to go to the bigger ones to perform friday prayers? thus slightly reducing roadside parking?
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post Jul 12 2019, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ckweng @ Jul 12 2019, 09:05 AM)
Maisson is much further away from Masjid Ara Damansara as compared to the new mosque is to Ara Tre though. Besides that, requesting to lower the volume of the azan is a highly sensitive issue and could be interpreted as seditious to certain quarters.
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From what I was told, if you can get a muslim friend as a representative to talk to them politely, you will be surprised with the response.
It is more on a goodwill basis as there are many residents/condos nearby such as urbana which is also beside.
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QUOTE(chicargo @ Jul 12 2019, 11:16 AM)
or if you look on the bright side, with few mosques within close proximity, people may choose to go to the bigger ones to perform friday prayers? thus slightly reducing roadside parking?
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Yup, from their proposed model of masjid lembah subang, it will be a modern medium/smaller sized mosque. Hopefully their intention is likely to cater to the rest of the muslim populations in the area from overcrowding the bigger mosques.

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post Jul 12 2019, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Fu_zHen @ Jul 11 2019, 11:00 PM)
I have no idea why there is a need of another mosque when the ara damansara mosque is just 1-2km away. Either way, the demographics of ara damansara is 60% chinese and even with the ara damansara mosque situated in the center, condos still shows good appreciation such as maisson which had 20% appreciation in 2017 alone. Apart from the friday traffic, we can always talk to the imam in the mosque if the azan is too loud in the early morning.
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I think talking to the mosque official about their Azan being too loud wouldn't be exactly a good idea la. It would all be too late and if this is a sensitive issue, the talking to them about it being too loud would be even more sensitive.

It's either this project is removed or it's on. That's all. If its on, just forever hold your peace.
There is no reason for another Masjid here actually. I am not even sure if the existing Masjid is even fully utilised. If it is just for a Friday prayer, does it justify even for a full new Masjid being built?

Wouldn't that be a waste of resources? However, it is not my call so, I wouldn't know what goes in the mind of MBPJ when approving such project. Perhaps nothing goes thru their mind that's why this project was approved.
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QUOTE(Fu_zHen @ Jul 12 2019, 12:14 PM)
From what I was told, if you can get a muslim friend as a representative to talk to them politely, you will be surprised with the response.
It is more on a goodwill basis as there are many residents/condos nearby such as urbana which is also beside.
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The condition here as you said it would be

1. If you can get a muslim friend as a rep.

I don't think 1 muslim friend would make any difference. It would be considered a subjective view. So if you need a few, you still will have the problem of getting that few to talk to them. Next question is, how many Muslim would talk to them about the Azan sound being too loud on your behalf and for what purpose would they do so?

So I would not put this solution into an option.

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QUOTE(chicargo @ Jul 12 2019, 11:16 AM)
or if you look on the bright side, with few mosques within close proximity, people may choose to go to the bigger ones to perform friday prayers? thus slightly reducing roadside parking?
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Too many if's and perhaps. Perhaps the Masjid won't succeed being built? Perhaps the Masjid will automatically have low volume Azan because they understand its very near to a few condos? Perhaps nobody will attend the Masjid even for prayer because of difficult to park? Its difficult to make a future decision based on perhaps and if maybe or bright side. Perhaps I can't see too far for a property investment so I can only see it as

1. Masjid will be built
2. Azan will be performed
3. People will attend and there will be extra cars from the current traffic.
4. Friday will have even more cars.

Currently, that 4 points are rather certain and for that 4 points, I have to bail out. Thanks guys! I am not optimistic nor accepting enough of the current situation to put money there. " Perhaps " there are many others who are the exact opposite of me. Good luck guys. Unless we can group up to send a petition to MBPJ, it's a no go for me.

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Apparently there is another mosque nearby they called " Masjid Hijau " on the way to Subang Airport, approx 2.8km to the current proposed mosque site. How many mosque does one area need?


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post Jul 15 2019, 02:18 PM

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I have spoken to some of my friends and there will apparently be a talk to the authorities on the 23rd of July 2019, at the time of 230pm. They are inviting anyone privy to the matter to attend the forum.

Anyone up?
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QUOTE(wgpictures @ Jul 15 2019, 02:18 PM)
I have spoken to some of my friends and there will lapparently be a talk to the authorities on the 23rd of July 2019, at the time of 230pm. They are inviting anyone privy to the matter to attend the forum.

Anyone up?
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Do update if you are going. Would like to know the current situation to be honest
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post Jul 15 2019, 05:11 PM

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Attractive location, but too risky to bet for the price and the surrounding factor

Looking at the current trend, will wait for VP subsales or even auction unit
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post Jul 16 2019, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Fu_zHen @ Jul 15 2019, 03:35 PM)
Do update if you are going. Would like to know the current situation to be honest
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Actually they are not looking for ppl to join to only know but only accepting ppl who are privy to the matters to help champion the issue for the forum. Typical of Malaysians, we all hope someone do something for them. End up no one goes so the whole effort falls apart. I hope those here who are against this development to attend to champion it. Otherwise, it will probably be just another forum for show
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jul 15 2019, 05:11 PM)
Attractive location, but too risky to bet for the price and the surrounding factor

Looking at the current trend, will wait for VP subsales or even auction unit
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Yeap. Just look around the surrounding condo and see how many empty units. I kept seeing potpourri aggressively advertising their sales. Few years back when I went there the agent told me that day is the last day for the last few units. But we know it's not true. If you go now to look you would realise it's quite empty right now. Even Ara green which I went and they were adamant about their pricing and say the new block will be built up soon cause every block is taken up. But the new block if I am not mistaken is postponed for building until today and it's been years. So I guess it tells me that most condos there are still empty. I personally feel the entire area is over populated with condominiums already. And most of them are leasehold. Pricing wise, they are on the high side despite the oversupply, underplanned town planning and who knows what else will be built by surprise. Property price surrounding that area actually drop over the past few years. Just ask the agents holding the older condo units there. Ppl is letting go cheaper, probably because it's not longer "homely" to stay around? I don't know. But for the meantime, unless they make the place more homelike township, I will hold back. The Masjid if it's built, it's a 100% no from me. I don't want to be paying monthly and begging for ppl to rent or buy. I have had that experience before and trust me, it is very painful.

If you get a leasehold property, plus risky location, priced relatively high, oversupplied area....that few points alone is enough to call it high risk for my personal taste.

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