Bond in Australia

spare me the James Bond jokes too

universities never send you rejection letters........if you have no news, it means no offer......

this is a problem with the msian postal deficiency......some mail never arrive, so it pays to check, call them....however, imu uses poslaju, so it should be more reliable.....just not very laju........

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Added on April 23, 2008, 9:46 pmwell, they have to comply with the standards set by the partner universities, (including yours)......so they may let you in easy (it's extra fees income after all), but just as easily kick you out if you don't met the standards......i think the me1/07 batch is down to some 160+ from 220........

i don't agree with this approach, but it is i guess a good business model.......and it certainly satisfy those who feels 'heart' is more important than brains, and one doesn't have to be a genius to become a doctor.......gives then a chance to have a go at it.......the good thing is, at least it cost the taxpayer nothing, it's only dad's money when they find out it's the brains that is more important......

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Added on April 23, 2008, 9:48 pmno jokes........i thought you would either be in bond or jcu, the 2 undergrad schools........just wonder how they fit what others do in 6 years in 4 2/3 years.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 23 2008, 09:48 PM

ya 1st final exam coming for my batch m2/07
let see how many can survive out of 240 ppl, when only less than 200 places available in partner medical schools and seremban clincal school
hope i'm not 1 of them who're failing later

I heard m107 50 students failed. A few of them retaking sem1 again in ME108, they just love to skip classes, telling other people to sign for them during compulsory classes and comes in late for PBL. The rest got kicked out. Also I think some of the SAM students are a joke, they cant even do basic maths or chemistry. BTW I am not in IMU.

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Added on April 24, 2008, 1:50 amLOL and btw, do you happen to know shi hoay, barath,whei ying.sin ying, keet jean (donno about this spelling) and lay queen? If yes tell them I wish them good luck for the exams.

This post has been edited by linkeong: Apr 24 2008, 01:50 AM

well there's griffith as well. bond does it with more semesters in a year, unlike other unis that have crazy 2 or 3 month breaks we get about 3 weeks in between sems. i finished a previous degree, incl. honours, in 3 yrs. contrary to popular belief, it doesnt feel that hectic or intensive at all.

man, i should get paid for this.

what do you do, limeuu?

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Added on April 24, 2008, 6:57 ami've got another question for you guys-
when you accepted your offer for a place, did the uni give you a whole stack of forms to fill? Mostly regarding immunization schedules, to be filled in by your GP? Criminal health checks? Privacy act agreements? Anything of the sort?

This post has been edited by lagrima: Apr 24 2008, 06:57 AM

Yes.... What I needed to get done was:

1. Police check
2. First Aid level 2
3. Free of Hep B, C and HIV
4. Some patient confidentiality form
5. Some consent form to release my results to US
6. Undergo some immunization sessions with uni

Griffith's MBBS is post grad also.

u from taylors is it? u in monash now?
ya i noe some of them, not really close though
ur name is lin keong is it? ok la i'll pass them the wish
n ya some of the m107 students are just a joke

This post has been edited by chika138: Apr 24 2008, 12:08 PM

Yup my bad, it's postgrad, but it's got provisional entry or something of the sort for school leavers.

This post has been edited by lagrima: Apr 24 2008, 03:06 PM

double degree.....get into eg science/medicine from year 12, and upon meeting the minimum required in the first 2 years, will then proceed to the 4 years med programme.......uq has the same........they found out that they are loosing out on quality candidates to other undergraduate programmes....as the graduate applicants tend not to be of high calibre........

hey noob question here. how long does it take to specialise in these fields:

a) cardiothoracic surgery
b) plastic surgery
c) surgical oncology

and what are the job prospects in malaysia and singapore?

and my dad said to be accredited by the american board of medicine is the highest medical qualification there is and that the sky's the limit if ure accredited. is this true?

15-20 years from entering university, depending on where......

good......

no......only if you intend to work in us, or intend to predominantly treat us patients.....each country/region has their own postgraduate system........which may not recognise another country/region's.........

hey guys, i'm just curious on how r the housemen being evaluated?
it's not medskol anymore, n certainly there's no assessments for them

or it's just based on their MO/superiors report, which i tink is rather subjective

haha, glad if anyone can ans for me

u dun have evaluation while work as HO but u hav a log book to complete and a small evaluation card to completed by the specialist in charge. The small green card is very important for u to get a medical license in malaysia.

But work as a HO is a suck things....

orh, thx
but act as for my case right, housemanship is of utmost importance, since we can apply post grad after housemen. so, it really depends on my housemen performance to determine whether i can get into post grad right after housemen, instead of waiting for another year.

speaking of which, i've always wondered how school leavers (essentially 17-18 yr olds) manage studying medicine. I mean take Bond for example, because it takes slightly over 4 years, they graduate as doctors at 22 or 23. 23! Dyou think that's a lil young? I do. I look at some of them and wish all med programmes were postgrad.

that is pretty much unique to bond.......all the other programmes are 6 years, except for monash....

age at graduation is not really important, because one needs another 4-10 years before one assumes independent practice........be it gp or neurosurgery......unlike most other professions, where one can begin full independent work at graduation.........

Only for domestic Australian students, unlike UQ's MBBS where at least about 50 places for provisional Year 12 entry are avaliable for international students.

true, but what about admitting someone that young? considering how tough studying medicine can get, and how long it actually takes, i wonder how 17 year olds make such a huge decision, at that age. i mean seriously, 4 years down the line you change your mind and go 'ah crap, i really don't think i wanna be a doctor', you drop out and you're... nowhere?

i suppose that's where the interviews come in? i've described the very different interview process at my uni some posts back, where they try to level the playing field by eliminating bias and adopting a method that investigates the thought processes of the candidate, as opposed to the usual "why do you wanna be a doctor" questions. to an extent that reveals how much of an informed decision the candidate made when they applied for the course in the first place. they ask questions about future plans and possible challenges WHEN you're a doctor but what about challenges faced during the process of becoming one? and like you said limeuu, no full independence upon graduation, so essentially its another 4-10 years on top of the 6 or however many years they spend at uni.

at 23 or whatever age- do they know that it gets tougher? that graduating doesn't mean it's over and you can settle in comfortably in a job?

most importantly, do they realise that all social gatherings from here on end will involve lots of champagne and conversations beginning with "oh doctor? i have this pain/ache/lesion/ulcer/discharge...."

any 20 yr old third years with regrets out there?

p.s: limeuu- you wouldn't happen to be single and cute.. ?

*puts on some mighty high-5 accent*

I'm still 17, I'm doing med and I'm in Uni of Melb. Why? Cos I got the grades!



*still with the accent*

Well....duh. If we are good enough to get into med, we definitely know that being a doctor isn't easy!


*again with the accent*

Person: oh doctor? i have this pain/ache/lesion/ulcer/discharge....
Me: Hmmm...tell me more. (grabs a drink)
Person: blablablabla
Me: Yes.....go on.
Person: blablablablbal
Me: *finishing drink* Interesting... I have to do some tests to confirm my diagnostic, will you come to the clinic/hospital/health centre?
Person: Yes! Thanks, I'll pay for your drink!


*yet again with the accent*

Oh pluhhlease! Are you that desperate?


(little voice at the back of the head: age age age...thats what they always talk about! Being 17/18/19 doesn't make any difference! They are just all like the stupid security guy at the pub last night! )