agree
he might sound bit cruel here but it's true

He's telling the truth. The agent want $$$ but Malaysia already got many IPTS. Getting job in EU is harder than you think as they want to emply their citizen than yourself. Don't go to Romania, I really hope you don't go there. If you dying to go outside Malaysia, go Russia / Indon instead. Forget about China as MBBSiang and limeuu already do the research and it tough as hell to pass. Btw, you can PM CR7, he's a really helpful guy


Yep, are you SPM or STPM? If SPM, please do A-level before going elsewhere. If STPM etc., if will be tough to cope with Medicine. If you got BBC or above don't get scared but if not try to do Biomedical Science or Anatomy first as it is another route to get MBBS. How about tell us your result first? Don't worry the good thing about online is no one will know who you are

baru jumpa. rupa2 nya ada. kinda sunyi though

you guys are really nice.

and yes, sounded a bit harsh but haihz. you guys are more experienced.. i shall think twice with all your advise.

oh well, i took stpm.. 5 sub... 3 sciences are CCC+..

i called up to check indo and russia U.. they said i can do a top up prog and i can continue study in the month of aug..
as for romania.. they accepted.. and i saw the list of students studying in romania including malaysians, quite many of them..

i really wanna find out who studied there from malaysia then they can share their experiences..

you guys can take a look at medstudentadvisors.com

sorry.. shouldn't have entered here.. actually i know that i'm smart.. but i am not intelligent.. does that makes any sense to you all? hehe. anyways, thanks alot for telling me the truth, i need that.



This post has been edited by kaiying: May 12 2009, 01:13 AM

honestly speaking, CCC wont even get you into an IPTS in malaysia. I strongly suggest you follow your strong points in life. If you say business is what you're good at , do that. further more if you wanna volunteer in aiding Medicine without frontier you can do so but not as a doctor, you'll just help out with food supplies, bringing stuff here and there if that is your life long dream.

personally, i'm damn tired of studying for my current finals, it is tough. last time you go in for papers you think about how many A's. Now its the fight to survive. And sometimes you really fall back thinking why have i done this in the first place? before long it'll suck you in even more. Can you imagine A-Levels AAAA + A thinking skills student can find it tough in a uni like IMU.

exams and test are there for a reason to discriminate between those who are capable and those are who are not. i dont wanna hurt you seriously, but if you cant handle STPM, what makes you think you can handle all the disciplines in medicine? Pathology, Pharmacology, Biochem, Physio, Anatomy etc. There is clinical work as well. They stuff you with stupid stuff like Behavioral science too. zltan is in one of the best universities in the world, he knows what he is dealing with. i guess most people can tell a russian grad and at least a local or 1st world grad. there is a huge difference in quality and understanding.

i think all of us here can agree that some times no matter how much we study wether we are smart with 99% TER to any IPTS borderine entry student. It is tough. futhermore you keep insisting on Romania. Maybe you should be LYN's first guinea pig to romania then you can tell us about it. but two things is at risk, your working opportunity, if you dont secure EU place (which is not easy at all!) you wont get to work here if the govt doesnt recognize your degree. second of all is your cost. I cant bet you 100% you will be spending more than you budget. If not you'll probs be living off scraps or working like dog part time to foot in the bills.

BACK TO OSPE REVISION

take stpm again as private candidate will b a choice too
my gf's bro 1st stpm failed PA (coz let ppl c his ans and delayed in writing his ans) but he took 2nd time got AABB and got into architect
during f6, i got 1 tuition mate who took stpm for 4th times la...he wanted to do medicine but he got some anxiety prob. everytime exam surely got prob like sickness or accident (tats y his both hands got lotz of those blessing manik fr temple)
i really pray hard he is in medic now...
take stpm, get super good result (study everyday, n smart too. u will need this skill in medic school) then enter local uni.
u gonna save a lot of ur parents $$!

thank you very much for the advise!

ahh.. im feeling tense already.

at first i was so sure, yes im going romania im going romania.. i applied online and all.. now just waiting for money from my parents..

now you all really made me think am i qualify even to be a doctor..

i was reading the first post when i was overwhelmed bout heart vs brain thingy.. cuz i have a good heart.. then half way i jumped to last 30 posts.. then i felt doctors are really really realistics.. its like dreams crashers..

i might not be, ok, i am not good in academic wise but i have real strong passion towards medic. i also dunno why. and i saved.. not lifes.. but just whenever someone is feeling unwell, got cut, or whatever (during camps especially), i will be the one helping them. guess im better off being a nurse huh.. haha.

and during class, i will be the one understood what was teacher talking about.. even good students ask me.. but when it comes to what was the disease call again? im screwed.. yup, i do understand this will be another nono for me to be a doctor.

i will think twice.. whether to be a guinea pig or take another pre u..

ahh.. i copied down the book list though. will try to read and see i will still have interest on it or not.

btw, i will update some progress ya. maybe first guinea pig who succeeds! sorry sorrry.. hehehehe

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Added on May 12, 2009, 2:14 ami've thought it through..

i will stil..

stil not the time to give up yet..

prob i need to be knocked down real hard real hard then only i will do something bout it..

because i went and did a bit of research, i believe i still stand a chance. slim, not a bright choice, but i will still continue..

i will not blame, will not whine, i will live my life without regrets.

is not just DR title.

to me, is much more.

kaiying, gogogo!!

This post has been edited by kaiying: May 12 2009, 02:14 AM

i really pray he is NOT..........

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Added on May 12, 2009, 8:20 amyou are correct.........be a nurse........that's my advise, you are NOT doctor material.....

you are NOT 'passionate' about the profession, or saving lives.........you are obsessed with the title of 'doctor'.........the perceived 'glamour', the 'prestige', the respect you think having the title entitles you.....

you can satisfy all you passion about helping people in so many other ways.......nursing, physiotherapy, dietetics, etc......not necessarily as a doctor.......

there are easier ways of getting a dr. in front of your name......you can actually buy it from some scam universities.........or you can buy it from russia, ukraine, possibly romania........yes, you don't need to study, just buy the exam papers, of just buy a pass from the examiners.......that is the pathway you are thinking of going..........you will NOT survive a REAL medical school......

having said that........it is a sad fact that many people with similar or weaker academic results have gone to 'easy' med schools, and graduated........in msia......it's a free for all at the moment in msia.......bugger the standards........

This post has been edited by limeuu: May 12 2009, 08:23 AM

I don't quite understand. Why is doing STPM harder to cope with medicine than A-Levels?

With this CCC+ results,I'm sadly to say that you're not qualify enough to study in local IPTS,even nowadays Pharmacy in local IPTS the minimum requirement's BBB...what you will say about medic then huh

If you want to study in Romania,I can only advised you not to waste your precious time and money there....

Regarding about the indo and russia Uni's,I think they have entrance exams ,its a good way to test you whether you capable of studying medic

Hey chill guys,
kaiying already stated that she's not fascinated with the Dr title, yea maybe sometimes people confuse passion with compassion.

And she's well-aware of her lackluster in academic merits is a serious hindrance.

For Now, maybe she'll have to succumb to it, but I'm sure she can fullfill the passion and compassion somewhere else in the immense health science field.

Now, my ( silly question warning)

Hey, is it possible for a doctor to balance and intercalate an extra interest in his, Years of medical studies, and Voyage of medical career?

Thanks and Good Morning form an Insomniac.

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Added on May 12, 2009, 9:51 amBut seriously, I thought the career wont be that demanding after the 7 years, when one's a Medical Officer.

Thanks

(I'm asking this because I really think that I dont know thorough enough about a Doctor's life.)

This post has been edited by ShaneNg: May 12 2009, 09:54 AM

Well if you want to be a doctor you can but I still think you should go through the graduate route. By getting Biomed first, you could see how could you are capable of. But the ball is still in you hand and it ultimately you're could. Do be frustrated but try to think carefully in making a decision as it affect throughout your life.

Believe me it's demanding as hell as MO especially in Malaysia. In private clinic maybe it's more relaxing. Not sleeping 48 hours straight and looking at the person hearts in surgery for 8 hours is part of the job But if you love the job, it don't really matter.

i think many of you missed the point........it is NOT because the JOB is demanding in the physical sense, that people with weak academic ability should NOT embark on the career........

it is the mental and thinking aspect that demands a strong intellect, so the correct decision. the right diagnosis, and the appropriate treatment can be made..........

believe me, if you have problems with just coping with learning some new terms, and facts at med school.......you will have a LOT of problems when you need to APPLY these knowledge in real life, in the correct way.........

Looks like I've been naive here, after all, it's impossible to Live a Doctor's life or even live the student life without a 100% commitment and devotion.

Seriously thinking of to reject the IMU offer now. got 36 hours left. And you guys must be wondering that, a real passionate doctor wanna-be wont be in such thoughtful considerations like me now, right?

Thanks

This post has been edited by ShaneNg: May 12 2009, 12:23 PM

This post has been edited by ashi: Jul 11 2009, 05:12 PM

shane, it is possible to commit 100% to your studies and work, and yet have time for other pursuits.......

that's where the academically strong student will excel.......instead of mugging 10 hrs a day like the weak students, they study for 2 hours, and the rest of the time, they go do whatever their hobbies and interests are........and yet they score better than those weak students.......

i am sure all of you know such people......these are the naturally good doctors.......a balanced life, and the intellect to do so........

haha, but after stumbling through all the posts, I'm starting to think that, this isnt just about studies, then what happens after the housemanship?
Clearly Medicine doesnt leads to a career which one can do with a part-time attitude.

More and more I started to think that I'm entering IMU to TRY the MBBS (with dad's money, quoted) to TRY coping with my true side, not to DO the MBBS.

phew. ( needs some time to organise my thoughts)

But I'm very grateful for the existence of this thread somewhere in our bolehland. And I spent the whole night to midnight reading through the posts( Insomnia). It's warming to see the right people embarking on the rightest dreams, and people who crossed the paths, made their faithful decisions. Feels like everyone's moving on with time in their place.

And limeuu, Hypermax, Chika138...for the continuous support devoted into this thread.

Thanks

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Added on May 12, 2009, 3:03 pmDont get me wrong, I'm not blindly obsessed with Th honorable Dr title, but when it comes to pinpoints of life, sometimes it really makes me wonder If the achievement I wanted out of life is in order, thus making me feel like I cant commit fully into the medical studies

This post has been edited by ShaneNg: May 12 2009, 03:03 PM

Thanks for the advise people!

and limeuu.. i mentioned im not obsessed with the title larr..
and yes, i will take ur advise.

hmm.. i've seen doctors life before.

i used to work as a receptionist in a clinic, for a real respected doctor, he's really good and famous around our area.
kinda sad to see, he is very very stress due to his responsibility therefore he's kinda bad tempered.
but weird thing bout doctor, they save lifes but not himself huh? being overweight and stuff.. owh well, i don't think he even have time for all that..

and i came across a young doctor, doing housemanship for UKM. i was asking him medic stuff.. and he said, 'don't take medic'.. hehe. cuz he was tellliin how tough and how tiring it was, and also low salary (during housemanship)..

so conclusion is, i wil think twice (cuz actually whenever i do personality test, i always fail to be in doctors which is the I category) go through proper graduate route.

sorry for wasting y'll time. thank you. :salute:

Silly, it's not time wasting, you really have the passion in my opinion, the 'brain' part? It's unique, might render you as an unsuitable candidate for medicine, but it doesnt necessarily have to rule out all the possibilities in your life.

A forsaken dream is not grievous you know? I've lived the secondary school life in many characters, all sorts of dreams, and I'm always teased for being undetermined. Only thing that I discovered is there's always a remembrance engraved in my heart after something, some dream left, kinda like a lesson learned spiritually, and most importantly, directs me closer and closer to the rightest side of my life.


And after the poetic mood, back to scientific...Where do you get the personality test? I think I'm seriously in need of it.

Thanks

hahahahahahahahaha......... THANK YOU!

i was smiling and smiling when i was reading your post. actually it shouldnt be funny but i find it really funny. hehe

i did it when i was in high school in counselling room.
try googling career personality test. got quite a few. hehehe