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post Aug 19 2017, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(izwanikhsan @ Aug 18 2017, 10:25 PM)
IKR..knowing how conservative the people are still want to watch explicit contents on TV? Better ask for more international and less rojak in house channels.
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Actually, since when this such content air on TV in our country.. doh.gif sweat.gif

Btw, if true that Ansa cannot choose to use other satellite than Measat. Which mean Measat is the only satellite that cover all place in Malaysia. sad.gif

We should know that there are some un-used transponder on Measat 3b. The news said, that Measat 3b has 48 Ku-band transponder. And, maybe Astro & Transvision only use about 8 Ku-band transponder. hmm.gif
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For a commercial satellite company (not referring to satellite pay TV provider) to have a dedicated satellite beam for a particular country, basically it will cost higher.
There are several other commercial satellite companies out there, provide satellite bandwidth/service where the coverage "sekali gus" covers a particular region, not by specific country or countries like Measat do. This helps to save costs to both satellite company and the client who wants to lease satellite capacity from them.

So that means, if Ansa Broadcast pick a satellite where coverage footprint covers mainly only Malaysia (just like Astro), it will cost higher for them to use that satellite lo. BUT, does that makes this one of an expensive option for Ansa, even if it is a Malaysian company? I don't know. If they find that their "budget" not so much and not want to spend so much on leasing satellite capacity yet, here are the potential choices for Ansa Broadcast to choose which satellite to provide the service:

Satellite dish position: WEST (any satellites that is before 100 °E, satellite dish position will face towards west in Peninsular Malaysia)

A) ABS 2/2A at 75 °E

Attached Image
ABS 2 SEA & South Korea beam

Attached Image
ABS 2A SEA Beam

Source: ABS Satellite

B) Measat 3/3a/3b at 91.5° E
Attached Image
Measat 3b Malaysia beam

This one you know la, same satellite as Astro. No need to explain further.

C) Asiasat 5 at 100.5° E
This satellite beam has been left unused since one of Indonesia satellite TV provider, Viva+ has ceased operations years ago.
Attached Image
Indonesia steerable Ku band beam
You can clearly see that it covers entire Malaysia although it is once meant for Indonesia.

However, Asiasat 5 has 14 Ku band transponders and currently being used for one of India pay TV service (used 4 transponders, according to Lyngsat) as well as satellite broadband services by other countries. I am not sure how many Ku band transponders left in this satellite, but I guess it is not much. If the remaining transponders is not much for this satellite, Ansa may not consider this satellite because they may not have the capacity to offer a lot of channels (especially HD) in the long term.

Source: Asiasat

Satellite dish position: EAST (any satellites that is after 100 °E, satellite dish position will face towards east in Peninsular Malaysia)
D) SES 9 at 108 °E
Attached Image
SEA beam

Although the beam seems to mainly focused on West Indonesia, but it is still receivable with strong/adequate signal in Malaysia.

Source: SES
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These are the satellites that I am not so sure if it is possible cuz I don't have much info about it, which are Chinasat 11 (98 °E) (Steerable beam) and Apstar 9 (142 °E) (Steerable beam).
Attached Image
Chinasat 11 Steerable beam
Source: Satbeams

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Apstar 9 Steerable beam
Source: APSTAR

Steerable beam is where the satellite footprint coverage can be relocated to any different region within boundary limit (yeah they can move anytime they like, of course dependant on demand/request, not suka suka move). The ones that are not steerable beam means the footprint coverage are fixed and cannot be relocated, change, or modified.

As you can see, both steerable beam for Chinasat 11 and Apstar 9 seems to cover countries of northern part of South East Asia like Thailand, Laos, Myanmar all those. The thing is, I am not sure if any of those countries mentioned, or even any other countries outside steerable beam area you see on picture may be using it already? So, for that, I have no idea.
Asiasat 5's Indonesia steerable beam also possible that it has been relocated to other place to offer service to the region, that one I am also not sure. But I think, is no la...

So in conclusion, the high chance for Ansa to choose which satellites other than Measat (91.5 °E) would be either ABS 2/2a (75° E), or SES 9 (108 °E).

If Ansa Broadcast tend to "anti-Measat" because of Astro and those commercial satellites mentioned above doesn't seems to satisfy Ansa's needs to provide the service, then launch new satellite oh, which is even more $$$...
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post Aug 19 2017, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Aug 19 2017, 02:29 AM)
For a commercial satellite company (not referring to satellite pay TV provider) to have a dedicated satellite beam for a particular country, basically it will cost higher.
There are several other commercial satellite companies out there, provide satellite bandwidth/service where the coverage "sekali gus" covers a particular region, not by specific country or countries like Measat do. This helps to save costs to both satellite company and the client who wants to lease satellite capacity from them.

So that means, if Ansa Broadcast pick a satellite where coverage footprint covers mainly only Malaysia (just like Astro), it will cost higher for them to use that satellite lo. BUT, does that makes this one of an expensive option for Ansa, even if it is a Malaysian company? I don't know. If they find that their "budget" not so much and not want to spend so much on leasing satellite capacity yet, here are the potential choices for Ansa Broadcast to choose which satellite to provide the service:

Satellite dish position: WEST (any satellites that is before 100 °E, satellite dish position will face towards west in Peninsular Malaysia)

A) ABS 2/2A at 75 °E

Attached Image
ABS 2 SEA & South Korea beam

Attached Image
ABS 2A SEA Beam

Source: ABS Satellite

B) Measat 3/3a/3b at 91.5° E
Attached Image
Measat 3b Malaysia beam

This one you know la, same satellite as Astro. No need to explain further.

C) Asiasat 5 at 100.5° E
This satellite beam has been left unused since one of Indonesia satellite TV provider, Viva+ has ceased operations years ago.
Attached Image
Indonesia steerable Ku band beam
You can clearly see that it covers entire Malaysia although it is once meant for Indonesia.

However, Asiasat 5 has 14 Ku band transponders and currently being used for one of India pay TV service (used 4 transponders, according to Lyngsat) as well as satellite broadband services by other countries. I am not sure how many Ku band transponders left in this satellite, but I guess it is not much. If the remaining transponders is not much for this satellite, Ansa may not consider this satellite because they may not have the capacity to offer a lot of channels (especially HD) in the long term.

Source: Asiasat

Satellite dish position: EAST (any satellites that is after 100 °E, satellite dish position will face towards east in Peninsular Malaysia)
D) SES 9 at 108 °E
Attached Image
SEA beam

Although the beam seems to mainly focused on West Indonesia, but it is still receivable with strong/adequate signal in Malaysia.

Source: SES
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These are the satellites that I am not so sure if it is possible cuz I don't have much info about it, which are Chinasat 11 (98 °E) (Steerable beam) and Apstar 9 (142 °E) (Steerable beam).
Attached Image
Chinasat 11 Steerable beam
Source: Satbeams

Attached Image
Apstar 9 Steerable beam
Source: APSTAR

Steerable beam is where the satellite footprint coverage can be relocated to any different region within boundary limit (yeah they can move anytime they like, of course dependant on demand/request, not suka suka move). The ones that are not steerable beam means the footprint coverage are fixed and cannot be relocated, change, or modified.

As you can see, both steerable beam for Chinasat 11 and Apstar 9 seems to cover countries of northern part of South East Asia like Thailand, Laos, Myanmar all those. The thing is, I am not sure if any of those countries mentioned, or even any other countries outside steerable beam area you see on picture may be using it already? So, for that, I have no idea.
Asiasat 5's Indonesia steerable beam also possible that it has been relocated to other place to offer service to the region, that one I am also not sure. But I think, is no la...

So in conclusion, the high chance for Ansa to choose which satellites other than Measat (91.5 °E) would be either ABS 2/2a (75° E), or SES 9 (108 °E).

If Ansa Broadcast tend to "anti-Measat" because of Astro and those commercial satellites mentioned above doesn't seems to satisfy Ansa's needs to provide the service, then launch new satellite oh, which is even more $$$...
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Hmm, still looks like Ansa have no choice but need to use Measat 3b anyway. I wonder, how much Transvision pay Measat to carry all Transvision channel in Measat 3b transponder... hmm.gif

1) Nationwide coverage
2) More transponder capacity/more channels can offer

To launch new satellite is a bit costly. And, if Ansa uses newly launch own satellite, then Ansa still can offer more or same channel like Astro offer? In SPE network channel, HyppTV can get Sony HD & Animax HD. The rest like ONE HD, AXN HD & Animax are on Astro. Only GEM TV Asia still not be made available in Malaysia. I know, when ABNXcess launch back then. They are offering HBO Signature, HBO Family & HBO Hits.

HD or not. I'm not sure. sad.gif
So, most likely for them to use Measat 3b satellite to offer their channels... doh.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Aug 19 2017, 07:19 AM)
Hmm, still looks like Ansa have no choice but need to use Measat 3b anyway. I wonder, how much Transvision pay Measat to carry all Transvision channel in Measat 3b transponder... hmm.gif

1) Nationwide coverage
2) More transponder capacity/more channels can offer

To launch new satellite is a bit costly. And, if Ansa uses newly launch own satellite, then Ansa still can offer more or same channel like Astro offer? In SPE network channel, HyppTV can get Sony HD & Animax HD. The rest like ONE HD, AXN HD & Animax are on Astro. Only GEM TV Asia still not be made available in Malaysia. I know, when ABNXcess launch back then. They are offering HBO Signature, HBO Family & HBO Hits.

HD or not. I'm not sure. sad.gif
So, most likely for them to use Measat 3b satellite to offer their channels... doh.gif sad.gif
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Hope is slim? laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 19 2017, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Aug 19 2017, 07:19 AM)
Hmm, still looks like Ansa have no choice but need to use Measat 3b anyway. I wonder, how much Transvision pay Measat to carry all Transvision channel in Measat 3b transponder... hmm.gif

1) Nationwide coverage
2) More transponder capacity/more channels can offer

To launch new satellite is a bit costly. And, if Ansa uses newly launch own satellite, then Ansa still can offer more or same channel like Astro offer? In SPE network channel, HyppTV can get Sony HD & Animax HD. The rest like ONE HD, AXN HD & Animax are on Astro. Only GEM TV Asia still not be made available in Malaysia. I know, when ABNXcess launch back then. They are offering HBO Signature, HBO Family & HBO Hits.

HD or not. I'm not sure. sad.gif
So, most likely for them to use Measat 3b satellite to offer their channels... doh.gif sad.gif
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Why you think Measat is the only choice for them? Others that I mentioned also can fully cover Malaysia.

Transvision is one of a big company in Indonesia, they are rich enough to pay Measat for that.

As for channel offerings, it depends on the company's financial capabilities and also how many content/channels that are not yet been exclusive by Astro or Hypp TV. If exclusive already ones, then very hard lo...

ABNxcess ever offer HBO Signature, Family and Hits meh? How come I don't remember? Hmmm
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post Aug 19 2017, 10:13 AM

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Content cost and the weak ringgit are pressure points for satellite providers such as Astro and the company is said to have given up some of the exclusive rights it has over certain channels to lessen its costs. (Taken from the Star) This might explain why channels like Nick, MTV, Animax are now on Hypp TV.
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post Aug 19 2017, 12:07 PM

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Wah Josh..
Your info really superb..
Needed some time to actually understand it.. Very high level of understanding tongue.gif

So now the question is which satellite providers give the cheaper option.. What I feel, Measat won't be cheap either.. Also I remembered, the payments are in USD.. Since ours MYR is weak, sure there's need for Ansa to find cheaper solution & same time offer interesting chsnnles which the mass public likes

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post Aug 19 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Aug 19 2017, 02:29 AM)
For a commercial satellite company (not referring to satellite pay TV provider) to have a dedicated satellite beam for a particular country, basically it will cost higher.
There are several other commercial satellite companies out there, provide satellite bandwidth/service where the coverage "sekali gus" covers a particular region, not by specific country or countries like Measat do. This helps to save costs to both satellite company and the client who wants to lease satellite capacity from them.

So that means, if Ansa Broadcast pick a satellite where coverage footprint covers mainly only Malaysia (just like Astro), it will cost higher for them to use that satellite lo. BUT, does that makes this one of an expensive option for Ansa, even if it is a Malaysian company? I don't know. If they find that their "budget" not so much and not want to spend so much on leasing satellite capacity yet, here are the potential choices for Ansa Broadcast to choose which satellite to provide the service:

Satellite dish position: WEST (any satellites that is before 100 °E, satellite dish position will face towards west in Peninsular Malaysia)

A) ABS 2/2A at 75 °E

Attached Image
ABS 2 SEA & South Korea beam

Attached Image
ABS 2A SEA Beam

Source: ABS Satellite

B) Measat 3/3a/3b at 91.5° E
Attached Image
Measat 3b Malaysia beam

This one you know la, same satellite as Astro. No need to explain further.

C) Asiasat 5 at 100.5° E
This satellite beam has been left unused since one of Indonesia satellite TV provider, Viva+ has ceased operations years ago.
Attached Image
Indonesia steerable Ku band beam
You can clearly see that it covers entire Malaysia although it is once meant for Indonesia.

However, Asiasat 5 has 14 Ku band transponders and currently being used for one of India pay TV service (used 4 transponders, according to Lyngsat) as well as satellite broadband services by other countries. I am not sure how many Ku band transponders left in this satellite, but I guess it is not much. If the remaining transponders is not much for this satellite, Ansa may not consider this satellite because they may not have the capacity to offer a lot of channels (especially HD) in the long term.

Source: Asiasat

Satellite dish position: EAST (any satellites that is after 100 °E, satellite dish position will face towards east in Peninsular Malaysia)
D) SES 9 at 108 °E
Attached Image
SEA beam

Although the beam seems to mainly focused on West Indonesia, but it is still receivable with strong/adequate signal in Malaysia.

Source: SES
----------------------

These are the satellites that I am not so sure if it is possible cuz I don't have much info about it, which are Chinasat 11 (98 °E) (Steerable beam) and Apstar 9 (142 °E) (Steerable beam).
Attached Image
Chinasat 11 Steerable beam
Source: Satbeams

Attached Image
Apstar 9 Steerable beam
Source: APSTAR

Steerable beam is where the satellite footprint coverage can be relocated to any different region within boundary limit (yeah they can move anytime they like, of course dependant on demand/request, not suka suka move). The ones that are not steerable beam means the footprint coverage are fixed and cannot be relocated, change, or modified.

As you can see, both steerable beam for Chinasat 11 and Apstar 9 seems to cover countries of northern part of South East Asia like Thailand, Laos, Myanmar all those. The thing is, I am not sure if any of those countries mentioned, or even any other countries outside steerable beam area you see on picture may be using it already? So, for that, I have no idea.
Asiasat 5's Indonesia steerable beam also possible that it has been relocated to other place to offer service to the region, that one I am also not sure. But I think, is no la...

So in conclusion, the high chance for Ansa to choose which satellites other than Measat (91.5 °E) would be either ABS 2/2a (75° E), or SES 9 (108 °E).

If Ansa Broadcast tend to "anti-Measat" because of Astro and those commercial satellites mentioned above doesn't seems to satisfy Ansa's needs to provide the service, then launch new satellite oh, which is even more $$$...
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the sattlelite dish for abs2/2a are quite lower. so some place may face prob to receive signal ( place with high building)
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Aug 19 2017, 09:01 AM)
Why you think Measat is the only choice for them? Others that I mentioned also can fully cover Malaysia.

Transvision is one of a big company in Indonesia, they are rich enough to pay Measat for that.

As for channel offerings, it depends on the company's financial capabilities and also how many content/channels that are not yet been exclusive by Astro or Hypp TV. If exclusive already ones, then very hard lo...

ABNxcess ever offer HBO Signature, Family and Hits meh? How come I don't remember? Hmmm
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They do offer HBO & MTV Live channel If i still remember, ABNXcess cooperate with TM HyppTV... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Aug 19 2017, 12:25 PM)
the sattlelite dish for abs2/2a are quite lower. so some place may face prob to receive signal ( place with high building)
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True also. But the elevation of the satellite dish won't be "very low/down" also la... It's just slightly lower. If unlucky get blocked by obstacles like trees or building, then you got to relocate dish to somewhere else free from obstruction. This is common in other countries too, especially different pay TV providers offer services in different satellite.
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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Aug 19 2017, 12:55 PM)
They do offer HBO & MTV Live channel If i still remember, ABNXcess cooperate with TM HyppTV... hmm.gif
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MTV Live HD, yes. HBO, nope, never on ABNxccess.

If HBO is on ABNxcess, it won't be cheap to subscribe for sure.
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post Aug 19 2017, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Aug 19 2017, 01:25 PM)
True also. But the elevation of the satellite dish won't be "very low/down" also la... It's just slightly lower. If unlucky get blocked by obstacles like trees or building, then you got to relocate dish to somewhere else free from obstruction. This is common in other countries too, especially different pay TV providers offer services in different satellite.
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if chinasat 11 have many steerable kuband it will be a good choice to use as pay tv platform in malaysia.
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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Aug 19 2017, 01:56 PM)
if chinasat 11 have many steerable kuband it will be a good choice to use as pay tv platform in malaysia.
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Dish HD is Taiwan Satellite Pay TV provider?
Because, when i check SES 9 in lyngsat page. It show Dish HD channel is using HEVC/H.265 codec. Must be rich & advanced company... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Aug 19 2017, 12:25 PM)
the sattlelite dish for abs2/2a are quite lower. so some place may face prob to receive signal ( place with high building)
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Hmm mean, city area kinda hard lor..
Because most places have high rise buildings..
But well city area have high speed internet connection.. So many don't give damn with satellite TV laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Aug 19 2017, 02:27 PM)
Dish HD is Taiwan Satellite Pay TV provider?
Because, when i check SES 9 in lyngsat page. It show Dish HD channel is using HEVC/H.265 codec. Must be rich & advanced company... hmm.gif
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if ansa can use HEVC we would expect more channels and more cheaper price.
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Lets pray hard 4 that then laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 19 2017, 03:42 PM

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I am already praying now. Let's join me, pray together and say this...

May god bless us with this alternative TV Broadcaster to become a reality which hopefully can give us better reasonable monthly rates with much more better channels. May god also bless us in our wishes to teach Assteruk a big lesson so that they will not treat us like sh*t.

May god also grant us our wish that we can still continue to afford paying for Satellite TV entertainment as we become more and more poor due to our bad RM !
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QUOTE(Anime in HD @ Aug 19 2017, 02:27 PM)
Dish HD is Taiwan Satellite Pay TV provider?
Because, when i check SES 9 in lyngsat page. It show Dish HD channel is using HEVC/H.265 codec. Must be rich & advanced company... hmm.gif
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Yes. Dish HD is using on North East Asia beam, so it is not receivable in Malaysia. And yeah, they are known for using HEVC codec too.

Ansa can create a milestone in Malaysia by making the first pay TV in Malaysia to implement HEVC on its channels. With better video compression codec, they can put more channels in one transponder compared to MPEG4.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 19 2017, 02:38 PM)
Hmm mean, city area kinda hard lor..
Because most places have high rise buildings..
But well city area have high speed internet connection.. So many don't give damn with satellite TV laugh.gif
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From the look of the dish, aligning the dish from Measat to ABS 2 appears that it only move a little bit, and it doesn't different much.

In most cases, if you can receive Measat, you should be able to receive ABS 2, unless you really unlucky to have obstructions.
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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Aug 19 2017, 12:25 PM)
the sattlelite dish for abs2/2a are quite lower. so some place may face prob to receive signal ( place with high building)
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You mean the signal strength for ABS2/2a is quite low?

I know little about satellite technology so please excuse my ignorance. May I ask how the dish placed at high buildings will have more problems compared to placing dish at low buildings? I thought that obstruction or block to signal path on top of dish are the cause of reception problems.

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