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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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post Jul 17 2017, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(beetch @ Jul 17 2017, 04:44 PM)
Dah lah bro. I have 3 factories with PRC partner in China. Doenst matter how u want to phrase it, it is happening and is already happening. What u are saying is the property will crash which is not going to happen. Just quote me one instance of property price going down around the world? I can name u uk , ireland and china. Take uk alone in the last 5 years everyone say property crash ada crash kah? U go survey la. Ghost city in china, u see price down? All kena buy up also and keep as property.

Lolz. U too naive man.
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i don't know. not many countries actually go Bankrupt. so how about Greece?

Malaysia property bubble is not just about supply & demand, it's about it's economy going into demise.
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post Jul 17 2017, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(beetch @ Jul 17 2017, 04:44 PM)
Dah lah bro. I have 3 factories with PRC partner in China. Doenst matter how u want to phrase it, it is happening and is already happening. What u are saying is the property will crash which is not going to happen. Just quote me one instance of property price going down around the world? I can name u uk , ireland and china. Take uk alone in the last 5 years everyone say property crash ada crash kah? U go survey la. Ghost city in china, u see price down? All kena buy up also and keep as property.

Lolz. U too naive man.
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In UK, during the last economic recession, one could buy foreclosure property at 60% of peak value in 2008. Property price outside center London remain stagnant for a few years particularly after Brexit vote.

Property market in China is a different ball game. A large proportion of local government income is from property sectors. A fall of prooperty value will reduce local government income. Cpc will support the property market regardless unless it risk revolt from the people.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jul 17 2017, 07:18 PM
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post Jul 17 2017, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 17 2017, 07:00 PM)
In UK, during the last economic recession, one could buy foreclosure property at 60% of peak value in 2008. Property price outside center London remain stagnant for a few years particularly after Brexit vote.

Property market in China is a different ball game. A large proportion of local government income is from property sectors. A fall of prooperty value will reduce local government income. Cpc will support the property market regardless unless it risk revolt from the people.
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post Jul 19 2017, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jul 17 2017, 04:08 PM)
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macam mana bro... tak boleh play share.... tak boleh buy hse? put in FD aje ka your cash?
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post Jul 19 2017, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 17 2017, 04:18 PM)

Well, it is one of the many serviced-residents there. 500+ sq ft, won't mention the exact place though.

Also, I dont plan on buying any property in CyberJaya, no offence to them. But I prefer Putrajaya, there is much more food and leisure variety there. The water feature is much more vast, the people are more relatable (if you know what I mean), and as such the food is more appealing to me thatn Cyber's.

I got a very cheap rent in Cyber, which is the reason we took it, wife works in Putrajaya which is just 10 minutes away; if I had the choice though, I would have stayed in Putrajaya instead.
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your concept on the area is too personal already bro.... if you looking a house to own stay... anywhere u think is happy will do for you... haha.... from investment point of view.... its all together a different strategy... having said so... if really wanna invest in property.... cyber or putrajaya will not be part of my option as investment opportunity.... haha.... the population is growing very slow at that location.... hence why it is a very calm and peaceful township... where residents enjoy their peace and serenity and cycling around all day....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 19 2017, 05:01 PM)
macam mana bro... tak boleh play share.... tak boleh buy hse? put in FD aje ka your cash?
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Saja, share meme for bubbles fansi. Kopitiam mah.

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post Jul 19 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jul 19 2017, 05:16 PM)
Saja, share meme for bubbles fansi. Kopitiam mah.
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no la... asking a valid question also.... recently tgk share market... not as attractive as used to be already.... sometimes put in FD also better than play shares... lol.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 19 2017, 05:05 PM)
your concept on the area is too personal already bro.... if you looking a house to own stay... anywhere u think is happy will do for you... haha.... from investment point of view.... its all together a different strategy... having said so... if really wanna invest in property.... cyber or putrajaya will not be part of my option as investment opportunity.... haha.... the population is growing very slow at that location.... hence why it is a very calm and peaceful township... where residents enjoy their peace and serenity and cycling around all day....
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isnt that why we buy/rent houses, to live in it? so personal choice is important when it comes to choosing where to stay.

Putrajaya > Cyberjaya personally, but both are leagues above Puchon, Saujana Putra, Bangi, Kajang, etc. which are also nearby. Investment properties are a whole different game compared to personal location choice, but one thing for sure is that there are too many empty properties here in Cyberjaya which may make it unappealing to some investors - short and long term.

But it is funny how there are still properties being launched here, angled for the investor market, while the population density is still very low and very slowly climbing
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 19 2017, 07:00 PM)
isnt that why we buy/rent houses, to live in it? so personal choice is important when it comes to choosing where to stay.

Putrajaya > Cyberjaya personally, but both are leagues above Puchon, Saujana Putra, Bangi, Kajang, etc. which are also nearby. Investment properties are a whole different game compared to personal location choice, but one thing for sure is that there are too many empty properties here in Cyberjaya which may make it unappealing to some investors - short and long term.

But it is funny how there are still properties being launched here, angled for the investor market, while the population density is still very low and very slowly climbing
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i understand your point bro... but this thread is talking mostly about investors point of view.... for own stayers... whatever happen to the property market now... your house wont get rampas away anyway.... it will only impact those who owned few properties for appreciation and rental...

and yea.... developers still very bullish about cyberjaya.... its not bad for own stay.... for investment or rental play.... just too much.... and some ppl just like to use those old, nearer to Cyber city center properties to compare against the potential appreciation of the new ones.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 19 2017, 05:19 PM)
no la... asking a valid question also.... recently tgk share market... not as attractive as used to be already.... sometimes put in FD also better than play shares... lol....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Hahaha, where have you been? Shares performed very well this year. I plan to buy more if there's a correction.

You Property Negotiator also play shares meh? Got burned by shares is it? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jul 20 2017, 05:20 PM)
Hahaha, where have you been? Shares performed very well this year. I plan to buy more if there's a correction.

You Property Negotiator also play shares meh? Got burned by shares is it?  icon_idea.gif
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Would you say it is currently a bear or a bull market?

Sorry noob question, I am not invested into shares.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 20 2017, 05:40 PM)
Would you say it is currently a bear or a bull market?

Sorry noob question, I am not invested into shares.
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Knowing when to buy is important, many people neglected knowing when to sell is more important.

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post Jul 20 2017, 07:14 PM

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My colleague manager diagnose wirh sickness have to stop workin. Recently bought a hse in kl area 750k. Today met said sellin at 920k coz wan go back hometown. When ask if ppl request 750? Her answer...just let it sit till some1 wan to bought near to the price she wan. Not in rush.

So bubble??
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QUOTE(party @ Jul 20 2017, 07:14 PM)
My colleague manager diagnose wirh sickness have to stop workin. Recently bought a hse in kl area 750k. Today met said sellin at 920k coz wan go back hometown. When ask if ppl request 750? Her answer...just let it sit till some1 wan to bought near to the price she wan. Not in rush.

So bubble??
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If she dies, bank will auction at 800k
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 20 2017, 05:40 PM)
Would you say it is currently a bear or a bull market?

Sorry noob question, I am not invested into shares.
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IMHO, we are in a secular bull market, but there may be some weakness in the near term. Basically, it means I am bullish on stocks for the next few years.

But keep in mind a person can still lose money in a bull market if he bought the wrong stocks.



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QUOTE(party @ Jul 20 2017, 07:14 PM)
My colleague manager diagnose wirh sickness have to stop workin. Recently bought a hse in kl area 750k. Today met said sellin at 920k coz wan go back hometown. When ask if ppl request 750? Her answer...just let it sit till some1 wan to bought near to the price she wan. Not in rush.

So bubble??
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A one off case can show whether it's a bubble? rolleyes.gif

Not to mention the opportunity cost of waiting...
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jul 20 2017, 10:48 PM)
A one off case can show whether it's a bubble?  rolleyes.gif

Not to mention the opportunity cost of waiting...
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I am not saying one ofd case shiw anything. But according to u n many smart alecs economy now is very bad, property crashing so how would ppl (if even one minus the ultra rich) have the ability to hold on to property without tnants then????
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 20 2017, 09:27 AM)
i understand your point bro... but this thread is talking mostly about investors point of view.... for own stayers... whatever happen to the property market now... your house wont get rampas away anyway.... it will only impact those who owned few properties for appreciation and rental...

and yea.... developers still very bullish about cyberjaya.... its not bad for own stay.... for investment or rental play.... just too much.... and some ppl just like to use those old, nearer to Cyber city center properties to compare against the potential appreciation of the new ones....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I think not true, from what I know, when HK prop bubble burst, banks will demand loan taker to cover the the difference when house market value fall below the outstanding loan amount, if can't top up the difference, bank will rampas your prop. hmm.gif

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I don't recall posting such things .... I think u mistake me for someone else laugh.gif

But I repeat: it could be a one off case. So how could a single case show "how would ppl (if even one minus the ultra rich) have the ability to hold on to property without tnants then????:

QUOTE(party @ Jul 20 2017, 10:55 PM)
I am not saying one ofd case shiw anything. But according to u n many smart alecs economy now is very bad, property crashing so how would ppl (if even one minus the ultra rich) have the ability to hold on to property without tnants then????
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Speaking of HK prop market, I just read this yesterday:

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/arti...e-unlucky-seven
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From their 1997 high to their eventual 2003 low, residential prices in Hong Kong slumped by 69 per cent, inflicting grievous losses on legions of home-owners.


I'm NOT saying the same applies for Malaysian prop mart or that 2017 is a crisis year ...

QUOTE(iGamer @ Jul 20 2017, 11:01 PM)
I think not true, from what I know, when HK prop bubble burst, banks will demand loan taker to cover the the difference when house market value fall below the outstanding loan amount, if can't top up the difference, bank will rampas your prop. hmm.gif
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