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post Jul 12 2021, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Jul 12 2021, 01:57 PM)
Let me check again, cause run the extended smart test and took like few hours.
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If just run the extended test, no need to run again.
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post Jul 12 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 12 2021, 02:56 PM)
If just run the extended test, no need to run again.
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Yup won't run it again just that I've forgotten the information after that test. Will update again here.

By the way, if it all zero mean drive is ok state?
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post Jul 12 2021, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Jul 12 2021, 03:01 PM)
Yup won't run it again just that I've forgotten the information after that test. Will update again here.

By the way, if it all zero mean drive is ok state?
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Yup, if zero then drive should be ok.
Unreadable/unwritable sector is one of the sign that the drive have issue. But it won't be able to tell how long can the drive still be alive.
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post Jul 12 2021, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 12 2021, 05:09 PM)
Yup, if zero then drive should be ok.
Unreadable/unwritable sector is one of the sign that the drive have issue. But it won't be able to tell how long can the drive still be alive.
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I'm using the WD Utilities to run that SMART, and it only show this

Reassigned Sector Count: 0
Power-On Hours Count: 20
Drive Power Cycle Count: 4
Temperature: 33C
SATA/PCIe CRC Error Count: 0

Where can I get the unreadable/unwritable sector?

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post Jul 12 2021, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Jul 12 2021, 09:04 PM)
I'm using the WD Utilities to run that SMART, and it only show this

Reassigned Sector Count: 0
Power-On Hours Count: 20
Drive Power Cycle Count: 4
Temperature: 33C
SATA/PCIe CRC Error Count: 0

Where can I get the unreadable/unwritable sector?
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Download tool like HD Tune, CrystalDiskInfo, Speccy
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post Jul 13 2021, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Jul 12 2021, 09:04 PM)
I'm using the WD Utilities to run that SMART, and it only show this

Reassigned Sector Count: 0
Power-On Hours Count: 20
Drive Power Cycle Count: 4
Temperature: 33C
SATA/PCIe CRC Error Count: 0

Where can I get the unreadable/unwritable sector?
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I personally use CrystalDiskInfo
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post Jul 13 2021, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 11 2021, 09:37 PM)
Zero for these?
Reallocated Sector Count
Current Pending Sector Count
Uncorrectable Sector Count
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This the value obtained from CrystalDiskInfo

Reallocated Sector Count: Current 200, Worst 200, Threshold 140, Raw Values 000000000000
Current Pending Sector Count: Current 200, Worst 200, Threshold 0, Raw Values 000000000000
Uncorrectable Sector Count: Current 100, Worst 253, Threshold 0, Raw Values 000000000000

biggrin.gif Mind to explain how my drive doing? Not sure what the value about. notworthy.gif
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post Jul 13 2021, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Jul 13 2021, 03:14 PM)
This the value obtained from CrystalDiskInfo

Reallocated Sector Count: Current 200, Worst 200, Threshold 140, Raw Values 000000000000
Current Pending Sector Count: Current 200, Worst 200, Threshold 0, Raw Values 000000000000
Uncorrectable Sector Count: Current 100, Worst 253, Threshold 0, Raw Values 000000000000

biggrin.gif  Mind to explain how my drive doing? Not sure what the value about.  notworthy.gif
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Means all is still zero. No error ever recorded.
Your drive is fine thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 13 2021, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 13 2021, 03:44 PM)
Means all is still zero. No error ever recorded.
Your drive is fine thumbsup.gif
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Good to hear that, appreciate for the feedback.
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post Jul 23 2021, 06:20 AM

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hi all, just want to share my recent purchase here. for those who don't mind smr disk and warranty, i just got my 2nd seagate 8tb from amazon jp for RM631.57 shipped + import fees. last time i bought something there they actually returned the fees to me after a while (i guess not paid to m'sia custom or?). anyway, even with fees (RM 30 +/-) still cheaper than what i can get here. cheapest on shopee is around 999 but not smr i guess.

i bought a same one in 2019 while travelling to JP as it was cheaper there after 10% tax rebate. Been using it and so far so good so I decided to get another one. the whole process was smooth. ordered on 18th and i got the disk on 21st. shipped thru DHL and the packing was very good.

pics: https://imgur.com/a/G08j377
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post Jul 23 2021, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(incognitroll @ Jul 23 2021, 06:20 AM)
hi all, just want to share my recent purchase here. for those who don't mind smr disk and warranty, i just got my 2nd seagate 8tb from amazon jp for RM631.57 shipped + import fees
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U bought from amazon JP , is it cause the deals there better than amazon US ?
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post Jul 23 2021, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(socratesman @ Jul 23 2021, 07:10 AM)
U bought from amazon JP , is it cause the deals there better than amazon US ?
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i never bought anything from amazon US so i'm not sure how it's like. do they even ship here directly? if they do then we might have another option.

did a quick search and looks like the cheapest one is RM 719.31 before shipping and fees.

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post Jul 23 2021, 03:27 PM

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Normally my desktop pc hard disk temp around 47, 48 c
Not custom pc, recent few day it show on both speccy, crystaldiskinfo, 50c warning, or just because weather too hot?
Should anything need worry short life spent?
All SMART show good, no error
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post Jul 24 2021, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jul 23 2021, 03:27 PM)
Normally my desktop pc hard disk temp around 47, 48 c
Not custom pc, recent few day it show on both speccy, crystaldiskinfo, 50c warning, or just because weather too hot?
Should anything need worry short life spent?
All SMART show good, no error
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is your hdd actively cooled?
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post Jul 24 2021, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 24 2021, 08:39 AM)
is your hdd actively cooled?
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Even try idle half hour do nothing, temp still same
Yes don surprise i still use HDD, not SSD
Pc just do full cleaning 3 month ago, send shop cleaning

Other component temp normal, CPU 41-43c, GC 43, 44c
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post Jul 24 2021, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jul 24 2021, 08:48 AM)
Even try idle half hour do nothing, temp still same
Yes don surprise i still use HDD, not SSD
Pc just do full cleaning 3 month ago, send shop cleaning

Other component temp normal, CPU 41-43c, GC 43, 44c
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is your hdd actively cooled?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 24 2021, 09:17 AM)
is your hdd actively cooled?
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I not sure what is actively cooled
There is not any cooling on disk
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post Jul 24 2021, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Jul 24 2021, 10:28 AM)
I not sure what is actively cooled
There is not any cooling on disk
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active cooling = fan is blowing air to cool the item.
passive cooling = no fan.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jun 22 2021, 05:05 PM)
1. Yes you should worry. Replace it immediately
2. Do a secure erase then throw it away. No one is going to buy faulty HDD. Not even for RM10
3. Go with Seagate Barracuda Pro. 5 year warranty, worth every penny.
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r u sure no one buy faulty HDD???
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QUOTE(incognitroll @ Jul 23 2021, 07:23 AM)
i never bought anything from amazon US so i'm not sure how it's like. do they even ship here directly? if they do then we might have another option.

did a quick search and looks like the cheapest one is RM 719.31 before shipping and fees.
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Amazon US does ship to Malaysia but... bear in mind the risk of damage during shipping. My personal experience in shipping HDDs since 2019:

Domestic Amazon USA shipping + hand carry back to Malaysia: 3x 16TB Seagate Ironwolf = all ok
International Amazon USA shipping to Malaysia: 2x 16TB Seagate Ironwolf = both DOA (dead on arrival)
International Japan shipping to Malaysia: 2x 16TB Seagate Ironwolf = 1 ok, 1 DOA

I believe the drives were damaged during international shipping even with Amazon's usually very good packaging. So beware.

Following this experience, I don't plan on shipping HDDs from overseas anymore. If I get to travel to US for work anytime soon, I would order from Amazon and hand carry back. Otherwise, I would stick to SSDs for international orders.

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