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post Oct 1 2018, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Sep 30 2018, 11:06 PM)
bling for water cooling setup  rclxms.gif
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Sacrifice cooling for bling isn't my thing sweat.gif
My new case does not even has transparent side panel lol
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post Oct 1 2018, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Sep 30 2018, 10:47 AM)
Stock cooler is fine, the only thing that sucks is how AMD binned their GPU. It used way too much voltage, a simple undervolting to make the cooler cope with the heat produced. Another problem is AMD set the blower fan too low; idle 400RPM (barely any airflow) and at load only 2400RPM (but it rarely reach this). It needs around 2500RPM to expel heat efficiently under load

Problem with modern case it full of tempered glass side panel, no place for side panel fan. Its all about the bling and not cooling puke.gif
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Luckily afterburner can set the custom fan curve, down side is now it's too noisy lol,
A bigger and well build cooler most likely will solve the issue.
They still using the same old design even the memory chips is embedded within gpu.

Should have bought the lc version but it wasn't available at the time when it came out.
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post Oct 1 2018, 08:33 AM

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almost end of 2018...question...is it a good time to buy RX580 or RX570? since the price now around rm1k-1.3k...for now i'm using vega 11...
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post Oct 1 2018, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(ferhan83e @ Oct 1 2018, 08:33 AM)
almost end of 2018...question...is it a good time to buy RX580 or RX570? since the price now around rm1k-1.3k...for now i'm using vega 11...
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Unless you need urgently you better wait a bit. There is a rumor of Polaris 30 with 15% better performance than current Polaris. RM1k-1.3k is not good value for money as you can get 2nd hand GTX 1070 with that price.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 1 2018, 08:26 AM)
They still using the same old design even the memory chips is embedded within gpu
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You kidding right? HBM was meant to be as close to the GPU as possible to save space and to save power, that is the reason why AMD is betting on using HBM in the first place. If they use conventional GDDR memory it will consume more power and hotter too.
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post Oct 1 2018, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ferhan83e @ Oct 1 2018, 08:33 AM)
almost end of 2018...question...is it a good time to buy RX580 or RX570? since the price now around rm1k-1.3k...for now i'm using vega 11...
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Polaris 30 (aka Rx680, rumor says that it should has 10 - 15 % performance gained against Rx580) should be released in this month.

If I were you, I am holding til the result of Rx680 benchmarks & decide which to buy.
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post Oct 1 2018, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Oct 1 2018, 09:04 AM)
You kidding right? HBM was meant to be as close to the GPU as possible to save space and to save power, that is the reason why AMD is betting on using HBM in the first place. If they use conventional GDDR memory it will consume more power and hotter too.
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I know, I mean since the PCB already no more memory chips they should be able to design a better cooler for it, but AMD still using the same old design.
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post Oct 2 2018, 07:22 PM

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I'm actually looking for tthis https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-radeon-vega + https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-kit-l240-1
itt would save me the hassle to find the correct fitting and tubes lol
just replace the cpu block wth gpu block, run a leak test 24h and call it a day sweat.gif
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post Oct 2 2018, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 1 2018, 11:38 AM)
Polaris 30 (aka Rx680, rumor says that it should has 10 - 15 % performance gained against Rx580) should be released in this month.

If I were you, I am holding til the result of Rx680 benchmarks & decide which to buy.
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10% wont make a difference, unless the price is cheaper then ok
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post Oct 2 2018, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 1 2018, 11:38 AM)
10 - 15 % performance gained against Rx580
If this is true then it's utterly dissapointing
Was hoping for the next AMD GPU to be able to beat RTX 2080 Ti. Or at least beat the crap out of GTX 1080 Ti
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post Oct 2 2018, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 2 2018, 07:22 PM)
I'm actually looking for tthis https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-radeon-vega + https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-kit-l240-1
itt would save me the hassle to find the  correct fitting and tubes lol
just replace the cpu block wth gpu block, run a leak test 24h and call it a day  sweat.gif
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hahahaaha end of the day u still wanna watercool, stock cooler is just rubbish
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post Oct 2 2018, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Oct 2 2018, 09:18 PM)
If this is true then it's utterly dissapointing
Was hoping for the next AMD GPU to be able to beat RTX 2080 Ti. Or at least beat the crap out of GTX 1080 Ti
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Its a 12nm refresh(not a new arch)... what can u expect? laugh.gif
Its about 20+% faster than my RX480.

May be the NAVI (last gen of GCN which is the last Raja's work before him jump to Intel) or its successor "Arcturis" might impress you. cool2.gif
I don't think that the Navi will beat 2080TI, RTG is dead broke... laugh.gif

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post Oct 2 2018, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Oct 2 2018, 09:18 PM)
If this is true then it's utterly dissapointing
Was hoping for the next AMD GPU to be able to beat RTX 2080 Ti. Or at least beat the crap out of GTX 1080 Ti
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That one will be Navi - which won't be available until 2019 icon_idea.gif

Polaris refresh would be something to compete with the upcoming RTX2060 icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 2 2018, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Oct 2 2018, 09:20 PM)
hahahaaha end of the day u still wanna watercool, stock cooler is just rubbish
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I would have went with lc or custom cooler, but the time it hit the shelve the store only have stock cooler version.
I've dismantled the cooler and its the same design that been using for few generration (from HD4890 era LOL)
Very simple vapor chamber, no heatpipe.
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post Oct 3 2018, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Oct 2 2018, 11:33 PM)
That one will be Navi - which won't be available until 2019  icon_idea.gif

Polaris refresh would be something to compete with the upcoming RTX2060 icon_idea.gif
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Hmm I doubt Polaris 30 can even beat 2060. I think 2060 will perform around 1070.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 2 2018, 11:43 PM)
I would have went with lc or custom cooler, but the time it hit the shelve the store only have stock cooler version.
I've dismantled the cooler and its the same design that been using for few generration (from HD4890 era LOL)
Very simple vapor chamber, no heatpipe.
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it still sounds like a jet engine doh.gif
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post Oct 3 2018, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Oct 2 2018, 09:18 PM)
If this is true then it's utterly dissapointing
Was hoping for the next AMD GPU to be able to beat RTX 2080 Ti. Or at least beat the crap out of GTX 1080 Ti
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You put too much faith into RTG, they don't even have enough man power to enable system wide primitive shaders and dsbr in Vega. That card basically crippled unless game dev bothers about it and I've yet to see any game that was advertised to use those features in Vega except rapid packed math in FC5.

I'll be happy to see 1080 Ti-ish performance with better efficiency at lower price points but that already pushing it imo.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 3 2018, 12:30 PM)
You put too much faith into RTG
That's not it at all
I was just hoping that after all this time, AMD could come up with something worthy
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 3 2018, 12:30 PM)
You put too much faith into RTG, they don't even have enough man power to enable system wide primitive shaders and dsbr in Vega. That card basically crippled unless game dev bothers about it and I've yet to see any game that was advertised to use those features in Vega except rapid packed math in FC5.

I'll be happy to see 1080 Ti-ish performance with better efficiency at lower price points but that already pushing it imo.
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Hard to say... Navi is still GCN although it's the last Gen.

May be the incoming "Arcturis" might has a chance defeating NV Pascal.
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post Oct 3 2018, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 3 2018, 02:12 PM)
Hard to say... Navi is still GCN although it's the last Gen.

May be the incoming "Arcturis" might has a chance defeating NV Pascal.
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Still have no idea what Navi is gonna be, hopefully Turing with RT and Tensor cores didn't choke them too much.
They need to at least get on par with Pascal with Navi, if they can't can gulung tikar edi.
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